U N-Convincing evidence of rape, gang rape, and necrophilia by Hamas

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Per CNN

[HareKrishna]

1. Who ever doubted it?

[Hekate]

2. The apologists for Hamas

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. To be fair, I think this is the first I've seen necrophilia mentioned...

[Hekate]

16. The defilement of bodies covers things I never heard of. Some were shot in the heatd during the act

…of rape.

And yes, because terrorists film what they do, there are videos. According to what I read early on. Here.

[sheshe2]

18. I read about it early on.

They filmed themselves.

[sarisataka]

5. Lots of people...

You will probably still see people denying or downplaying what happened.

[sarisataka]

6. Look what you made me do?

What was the reason Hamas was forced to go on a spree of rape and murder.

[Aussie105]

9. It's a long story that started about half a century ago.

But for most people it's easier to demonise the enemy and not look at the background story.

The reasons are there if you want to investigate the decades of turmoil in the region.
Google is your friend on that point.

[sarisataka]

10. I am quite acquainted with Middle Eastern history

And I guess that excuses gang rape?
"Everything we do is justified"

[Igel]

20. More than that.

The farhud.

Cleansing of Hebron.

Other pogroms. And those are just in the ME.

Oh--you meant anti-Arab attacks after '48-9 and '67.

[EX500rider]

12. They are sick fucks who deserve a JDAM? IMO

[mcar]

14. Ah, here you are

Must have been something those Israeli girls were wearing. It couldn't possibly be that Hamas is a terrorist organization whose only purpose is to slaughter Jews, could it?

[Cha]

25. Excellent reply.. Thank you, mcar!

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Still ongoing

They said they have evidence that the hostages are being sexually assaulted still.

[WarGamer]

8. Hamas are sick sob's...

But I wish some wouldn't use it as justification for the Palestinian civilian casualties...

[Aussie105]

11. Worse than that . . .

Israel is using it as a reason to indiscriminately destroy and kill.

The rest of the world goes . . . oh dear, you really shouldn't be doing that!

The 1948 decision to create a modern Israel for displaced Jews around the world to live peacefully next to Palestinians and other Middle Eastern nations hasn't worked out too well.

[H2O Man]

15. Actually,

one needs to go back to the years of WW1. The sad thing is that Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived fairly well together. One could place blame on France and England for what has taken place since. Yet that does not provide forgiveness for the sins of war -- and I say "sins" in a 100% non-religious sense -- that are taking place today.

[Igel]

21. As long as those clearly inferior didn't get uppity.

That's the problem.

You know you're not allowed to own land, you learn to comply. Your word is worth less at court than a Muslim's? You pay a special tax? Ah, well, that's the price for peace. It's not oppression, it's a "peace tax."

But if there was a law saying blacks in the US couldn't own land or talk back or express their beliefs and they learned to comply in silence, few today teaching history would say that meant that whites and blacks "lived fairly well together." Because until Red Summer and the '60s, blacks and whites in the US "lived fairly well together". No real violence. So obviously, no oppression there. (Wait. What?)

[JustAnotherGen]

37. My father grew up in the Jim Crow Regime

As did his father and grandfather. His great grandfather was a formerly enslaved man.

At no time ever did the three generations who descended from the enslaved ancestor rape, pillage, and commit necrophilia against the Regime citizens.

I've just about had it with well meaning non black Americans comparing Americans who lived through or descend from the Jim Crow regime to Palestinians.

No group of countries placed an embargo on America.

The UN didn't acknowledge us.

No group of citizens in foreign countries took to the streets demanding we receive the basic rights of the country we built.

We were kidnapped and brought here.

Our country's natural inhabitants were destroyed in a sick genocide inflicted on it by both European Countries and the United States.

Name one country that demanded formerly enslaved people get their 40 Acres and a mule.

This needs to stop. Folks can go back to comparing Gaza to South Africa now.

[Happy Hoosier]

23. That's a bit of a whitewash....

… and not really how things worked. That region was controlled by the muslim Ottoman Empire for centuries. Christians and Jews were permitted to practice their religions, but had to pay a special tax to do so. And they couldn‘t hold any public offices or have other civil franchise. They were second-class citizens in a Muslim supremacist regime. The kumbaya narrative is mostly fantasy. Following the defeat of the Ottomans in WWI, the muslims in the region wanted a sovereign state that recapitulated the same social structure. Their proposed government would tolerate Jews and Christians, but would deny them political power. Britain rejected this model.
There were certainly some mistakes made, but the narrative you‘re embracing just isn‘t true.

[H2O Man]

27. During WW2

the Ottoman Empire wasn't doing very well. It wasn't in control of the fringes of the lands it previously controlled. One would have a difficult time thinking of a worse "solution" than that which followed WW2.

[Happy Hoosier]

29. I'd disagree.

The Ottoman Empire was defeated in WWI. Britain controlled the region during WWII. The proposed partition, which the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected would have left the Palestinians with about half the land of modern Israel. And frankly, the Arabs would have gotten the better land. In retrospect, rejecting that deal was foolish. But the Arabs wanted absolute control and for Jews and Christians to be subjects in an Islamic state.

[H2O Man]

31. On part,

you are saying what I've said here, with different words. What you are missing, which renders what you are saying incomplete, is the communications between England and France about Palestine during WW1. Thus, my noting "during the war" several times. For those communications are essential to understanding all the horrors that have followed.

[Happy Hoosier]

32. Not sure what you are referring to?

The Balfour Declaration? The support for the Zionist movement ironically had some Antisemitic motives. But the idea that Jews can anf should have a homeland where they were not forever second-class citizens is one I support, especially given the history of Antisemitism in Europe and beyond.

If you are referring to something else, clue me in. I‘m always willing to learn more.

[H2O Man]

36. There were communications

during WW1 between France and England when Russia was looking to step out of the the fighting. These are well documented, and not denied by anyone. A proper understanding requires familiarity with what resulted in the Belfour Declaration. I do agree that the Zionist movement had some antisemitic support.

I support Israel, of course. But just as one was not un-American for disliking the defendent when he was president, one is not anti-Israel because they dislike Netanyahu as the leader in Israel. I had posted an essay earlier regarding my thoughts on war and the other forms of group violence all too common around the Earth today. It included how war changes people. That includes in Israel and Palestine. I liked President Carter's approach, as it held promise.

[JI7]

35. They never lived well together. Jews were continuously kicked out by Muslims and xtians

That's how small communities ended up around the world .

[TheKentuckian]

17. When are the white descendants of convicts going to give it back?

Thieves stole a whole continent from the aboriginals!

Jews are in their ancestral lands, they are indigenous to the territory.

Aussies are just a penal colony that went full colonizer.

Of course this is all but utterly unworkable so pointless/contextually rabid nonsense and Israel is at least no less so.

The whole thought experiment at this point works out in any practical application to be planning genocide.

[Coventina]

22. And your solution is?

I'll wait here.....

[Cha]

24. No Aussie you're Wrong... your Whatabouism is NOT Working. Fuck HAMAS

GD Fuckers. Started this SHITE.

[Beastly Boy]

26. it is not justification.

It is a stated Hamas strategy: get as many Gazan civilians killed as possible.

The SOBs are sicker than you give them credit for.

[Cha]

30. Really , Exactly TY. Get to know HAMAS What

they're capable of.

[mcar]

13. Waiting for the "but Israel" crowd

will this, finally, get them to condemn Hamas?

On edit: I see I was too hopeful.

[sheshe2]

19. The UN is just figuring this out now?

U N-Convincing evidence of rape, gang rape, and necrophilia by Hamas
Per CNN

[RandySF]

28. How long did they sit on it before admitting it was there?

[Mossfern]

33. About five months?

n/t

[Mopar151]

34. All sides should be represented at the Hague

The game of " meanest dog in the yard" always has 2 losers.