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SCOTUS says Trump can be on the ballot in Colorado and all other states, 9-0 decision (Original Post) Kennah Mar 4 OP
My question is ColinC Mar 4 #1
Same reason there are two windows at the drive thru Kennah Mar 4 #3
Because one is about elections happening now, and the other Cuthbert Allgood Mar 4 #8
they trashed the constitituiton again for their butt buddy. AllaN01Bear Mar 4 #2
All three liberal justices too? ITAL Mar 4 #4
9- 0 and si. AllaN01Bear Mar 4 #6
What I was getting at ITAL Mar 4 #9
i dont know . would be fascinating to find out the discenters were . AllaN01Bear Mar 4 #10
There are no dissenters Renew Deal Mar 4 #18
here you go. see below. omg, did i just rhyme ??!!!? AllaN01Bear Mar 4 #30
They wrote a concurrence Zeitghost Mar 4 #31
Did the 3 liberals bdamomma Mar 4 #15
Yes and no FBaggins Mar 4 #26
Next up: Immunity. CrispyQ Mar 4 #5
remember , they stole the 2000 election in favour for shrub instead of gore and that hanging chadd nonsense . AllaN01Bear Mar 4 #7
Are they being wary of tainting the jury pool in other court cases? bucolic_frolic Mar 4 #11
What jury pool? FBaggins Mar 4 #27
The bar is set so high to enforce laws and rules Johonny Mar 4 #12
The MSM will start screaming it's a bipartisan acquittal of TSF in 3.. 2.. 1.. Hugin Mar 4 #13
Oh crap bdamomma Mar 4 #16
Well, it is up to us--the Democrats to vote Democratic down ticket come November. We MUST do it! riversedge Mar 4 #14
Exactly it is up to us bdamomma Mar 4 #17
What would happen if Colorado pulled a Texas? C_U_L8R Mar 4 #19
Well, he's already on the ballot, so there's that. Election is tomorrow. They're already counting the mail ballots. LeftInTX Mar 4 #20
They could not certify... if they wanna be punks about it. C_U_L8R Mar 4 #22
Or they could have removed him from the ballot and not provided a stay. LeftInTX Mar 4 #24
Not really FBaggins Mar 4 #28
Let's take it a bit further: Polybius Mar 4 #25
The Supreme Court made it clear that.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 4 #21
I don't know if they made that particular ruling. States already have their own rules and laws for state candidates. LeftInTX Mar 4 #23
Biden hasn't committed a disqualifying offense though. Think. Again. Mar 4 #29
If all it took was one conservative judge or Sec. of State to declare that he did Zeitghost Mar 4 #32
They could just claim he is guilty of insurrection for allowing the invasion at the border ripcord Mar 4 #33
They edited section 3 of the 14th amendment standingtall Mar 4 #35
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Initech Mar 4 #34

Kennah

(14,349 posts)
3. Same reason there are two windows at the drive thru
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 4

Creates the appearance of something happening when really it's slowing things down

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,995 posts)
8. Because one is about elections happening now, and the other
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:12 AM
Mar 4

is about a pending court case that has nothing to do with the election.

ITAL

(649 posts)
9. What I was getting at
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:12 AM
Mar 4

Isn't questioning whether the 3 liberal justices went with it - I KNEW it was 9-0. The point was, it can't be considered a totally partisan decision if it went down 9-0.

FBaggins

(26,778 posts)
26. Yes and no
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:15 PM
Mar 4

Their concurring opinion doesn't really say much more than "there's no reason to rule broader than that CO lacked the power to do this". It was pretty clear during oral arguments that at least two of them had reasons to overrule SCOCO and that the three were not all of the same mind. This concurrency allows that disagreement to stay below the surface.

CrispyQ

(36,547 posts)
5. Next up: Immunity.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:08 AM
Mar 4

I half think they'll give it to him knowing Biden's such a boy scout he'd never do anything like Trump would.

AllaN01Bear

(18,634 posts)
7. remember , they stole the 2000 election in favour for shrub instead of gore and that hanging chadd nonsense .
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:11 AM
Mar 4

Johonny

(20,928 posts)
12. The bar is set so high to enforce laws and rules
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:21 AM
Mar 4

That essentially it will never be enforced. Trump gets off free on trying to overthrow the United States. Amazing!

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
17. Exactly it is up to us
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:31 AM
Mar 4

We did it in 2020, no matter what this SOB cannot get in again. He will destroy our way of life, we got to turn this around it is not Minority Rule. Fuck that.

C_U_L8R

(45,029 posts)
19. What would happen if Colorado pulled a Texas?
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:42 AM
Mar 4

And just did not put Trump on the ballot or count his votes? Essentially the 'you're not the boss of me' states-rights approach?

LeftInTX

(25,686 posts)
20. Well, he's already on the ballot, so there's that. Election is tomorrow. They're already counting the mail ballots.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 4

Colorado primarily votes by mail.

C_U_L8R

(45,029 posts)
22. They could not certify... if they wanna be punks about it.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:44 AM
Mar 4

But that would end in a humongous pie fight.

Polybius

(15,514 posts)
25. Let's take it a bit further:
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:08 PM
Mar 4

Let's say it's a close election in November, and Biden wins by 3 points and 7 Electoral Votes. Colorado did not even put him on the ballot.

December 3, 2024: Supreme Court rules that Colorado broke the law by not putting him on, awarding all 10 of its EV's to Trump. This puts him on top, and he wins the election.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,845 posts)
21. The Supreme Court made it clear that....
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 4

Those running for State offices can be ruled ineligible for office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, but not Federal offices. The Office of President is Federal. States have their procedures in determining who committed insurrection against their said state government.

Also by keeping HIM on the ballot in the states, TAKES AWAY the argument that Biden is not qualified to be on the ballot in states dominated by Republican Legislatures. So this is a ruling in favor of Joe Biden as well.

LeftInTX

(25,686 posts)
23. I don't know if they made that particular ruling. States already have their own rules and laws for state candidates.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:48 AM
Mar 4

Texas is fairly strict. Convicted felons are not allowed, even if they are no longer on parole and have full voting rights. Congress does not have that law.
Texas has one year residency requirements, congress has no residency requirements.

Zeitghost

(3,886 posts)
32. If all it took was one conservative judge or Sec. of State to declare that he did
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:06 PM
Mar 4

I'm sure they could find one.

Which is why I and a few others around here have been saying that a criminal conviction of insurrection is needed if you want to declare someone has engaged in insurrection.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
33. They could just claim he is guilty of insurrection for allowing the invasion at the border
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:19 PM
Mar 4

If they don't need a conviction all they need to a friendly state supreme court and I can think of several of those.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
35. They edited section 3 of the 14th amendment
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 4

The clause already said Congress had the authority remove such a disability. There would be no reason for it to have read that way if it were intended for Congress to have the sole authority to also issue the disability in the first place. The Liberal Justices let's us down today.

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