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Demovictory9

(32,487 posts)
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 09:42 PM Feb 15

Rightwingers are upset over Beyonce releasing country song. Dukes of hazzard guy says something stupid




Former Dukes of Hazzard actor and country singer John Schneider and the OAN host are upset about Beyoncé releasing a country song, saying that leftists are trying to take over everything and Beyoncé doing a country song is like a dog peeing on their tree.
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Rightwingers are upset over Beyonce releasing country song. Dukes of hazzard guy says something stupid (Original Post) Demovictory9 Feb 15 OP
They just aren't happy unless they're upset. tanyev Feb 15 #1
Gotta hear it! Beausoleil Feb 15 #2
Meh. 2naSalit Feb 16 #21
You would've thought he'd keep his mouth shut after spewing crap about Biden. TSExile Feb 15 #3
Jon Voight, James Woods Beausoleil Feb 15 #6
Jealous Much, Asshole Schneider. Cha Feb 15 #4
black people created country music so... ecstatic Feb 15 #5
Many early country artists had black "mentors" Beausoleil Feb 15 #7
while this is wonderful history (and brava!) stopdiggin Feb 15 #19
18th century Irish and Scottish music Sky Jewels Feb 16 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 15 #8
Ohhhh, comparing Queen Beyonce to a dog MagickMuffin Feb 15 #9
Charley Pride much? eShirl Feb 15 #10
It doesn't even enter their tiny brains... MissMillie Feb 15 #11
True, country music does not "belong" to the right-wing Beausoleil Feb 15 #14
In this context, "leftist" equals black ecstatic Feb 15 #15
exactly eShirl Feb 15 #16
Clowns like Schneider give country music a bad name spanone Feb 15 #12
country has just been pop for decades beyonce oughta fit right in nt msongs Feb 15 #13
You haven't been listening to the right stuff stopdiggin Feb 15 #20
The only politics right-wingers know is the politics of outrage. All Mixed Up Feb 15 #17
So no progressives in country music? Liberal In Texas Feb 15 #18
It was mostly around the 80s with Reagan and Telvangelists that Country became associated with the right wing JI7 Feb 16 #22
I love Texas Hold 'Em Dorian Gray Feb 16 #24

2naSalit

(86,872 posts)
21. Meh.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 02:19 AM
Feb 16

I guess it's like today's country which isn't much like the stuff I'm used to. Pretty cliche, but all the other stuff is too.




Written by Anita Pointer, covered by Elvis even.

TSExile

(2,504 posts)
3. You would've thought he'd keep his mouth shut after spewing crap about Biden.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 09:57 PM
Feb 15

I really used to like John Schneider. Now, he's in the basement bargain bin along with other TV stars that we thought were nice but proved to be hateful magats...Scott Baio, Ricky Schroder, Ingo Rademacher, Steve Burton, Antonio Sabato Jr., and I'm sure I am forgetting more.

ecstatic

(32,755 posts)
5. black people created country music so...
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 09:58 PM
Feb 15


In reality, just like most popular music genres, country music in the U.S. began with Black People. More specifically, the story of country begins with the banjo. The modern-day banjo is a descendant of a West African instrument, made from gourds, called the Akonting. When enslaved persons were taken from Africa to America, their instruments came with them. For four hundred years, enslaved people created their own music, hymns, spirituals, and field songs—all with roots in African music. Accordingly, in the 1840s, the banjo was seen as an exclusively Black instrument; it was unheard of for a white person to play the banjo.

In the 1850s, minstrel shows came into raging popularity. These shows were a terribly racist form of satirical entertainment in which white people would dress in Blackface to mock Black people and Black culture. Performing the music and dance of enslaved people, with instruments such as the aforementioned banjo, the shows portrayed African-Americans as lazy, stupid, and foolish—stereotypes that originated on the plantation and still linger as overarching prejudices towards Black People. Then, somewhat unintentionally, minstrel shows introduced the banjo to white audiences in a palatable way such that the banjo was quickly appropriated by white people. Thus, the minstrel show laid the groundwork for the rise of hillbilly music roughly around the 1920s.

Hillbilly music, which would later be renamed country, became the music of the south. Hillbilly music was not solely centered around the banjo; the first hillbilly artists drew inspiration from slave spirituals, field songs, hymns, and the blues, which itself has black origins. In the 1920s and 30s, despite America being a deeply segregated nation, both Black and white hillbilly artists collaborated on a number of popular tracks. According to Patrick Huber, a history professor at Missouri University of Science and Technology, “Nearly 50 African-American singers and musicians appeared on commercial hillbilly records between those years — because the music was not a white agrarian tradition, but a fluid phenomenon passed back and forth between the races.”

After World War I, hillbilly music was officially rebranded as country music and commercialized. Big record labels wanted to sell country music, but couldn’t do so if it was integrated. Thus, Black artists on previous famous records received no recognition, and the covers were sold with white stand-ins. Suddenly, country music became marketed as “white music.” White audiences then adopted country music as their own, and as they moved north, white southerners brought country with them, further spreading the notion that country was “white music.” Meanwhile, Black artists, musicians and their contributions were effectively erased, in the white mainstream, from their own genre.


https://skidmorenews.com/new-blog/2022/2/23/a-dive-into-the-black-history-of-country-music-giving-credit-where-its-due

Beausoleil

(2,848 posts)
7. Many early country artists had black "mentors"
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:04 PM
Feb 15

Bill Monroe
Earl Scruggs
Hank Williams
Maybelle Carter

To name a few.

stopdiggin

(11,395 posts)
19. while this is wonderful history (and brava!)
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:06 PM
Feb 15

It's not quite accurate that country came purely or solely out of 'hillbilly', or that hillbilly derived almost entirely out of black influence. One of the wonderful things about music (art?) is the delightful cross-pollination and influences - how easily and naturally it occurs - and that American music has been chock-a-block full of it (including the undeniable black influences) from the very beginning - right on up to where this OP takes off today. And the only caveat I think needs being made here - is the white folk (and every other stripe of humanity?) were also doing plenty of what would later make its way into 'country' as well - and a good while before the record companies got their hooks into everybody with their categories and their contracts. 'Country' music has been with us for a pretty long time ..

Sky Jewels

(7,184 posts)
23. 18th century Irish and Scottish music
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 03:03 AM
Feb 16

also played a huge role in the development of country music. Those countries are the roots of most of the white settlers of Appalachia who developed bluegrass and folk “hillbilly” music. And, yes, the African banjo played a role too.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

MagickMuffin

(15,970 posts)
9. Ohhhh, comparing Queen Beyonce to a dog
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:05 PM
Feb 15


Watch out duke, you’ve f’d with the wrong person.

Low life John Schneider is a has been!


Beausoleil

(2,848 posts)
14. True, country music does not "belong" to the right-wing
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:30 PM
Feb 15

i would venture to say that the Americana branch of country music is mostly represented by liberals.

ecstatic

(32,755 posts)
15. In this context, "leftist" equals black
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:44 PM
Feb 15

They know full well that country singers are liberal and conservative. That's not the issue though. Their issue is black people, especially popular icons like Beyonce, succeeding in country music. The problem is Beyonce will end up at their awards shows and maybe even do performances. But they want freedom from seeing black performers who already have a huge presence at other awards shows. They can't say that out loud, even on OAN, so they refer to her as "leftist." I'm surprised they didn't say "woke," but I guess that word lost all meaning after tiny d's epic failure.

Schneider's racism is really disappointing because he didn't seem to have a problem with black people when he spent all those years playing a main character on Tyler Perry's show (The Haves and Have Nots). Way to burn bridges, asshole.

stopdiggin

(11,395 posts)
20. You haven't been listening to the right stuff
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:13 PM
Feb 15

Plenty of country out there with a a real bite, and a real soul. (and not talking about 'twang')

Edit: will grant that there IS a certain amount of stuff that is fairly pop - just not the whole of it.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
17. The only politics right-wingers know is the politics of outrage.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:53 PM
Feb 15

Must be exhausting being outraged over everything.

Liberal In Texas

(13,597 posts)
18. So no progressives in country music?
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 11:01 PM
Feb 15

Last edited Fri Feb 16, 2024, 09:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Look you two morons, ever hear of Willie Nelson? (Dixie) Chicks? LeAnn Rimes? Reba? Garth? Emmylou?...etc. etc.

Those two live in a maga bubble.

JI7

(89,281 posts)
22. It was mostly around the 80s with Reagan and Telvangelists that Country became associated with the right wing
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 02:32 AM
Feb 16
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