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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe's going to be annihilated in November
at the polls.
Hes gonna get trounced and the members of SCOTUS know it. Everybody who isnt fooled by the bullshit polls knows it.
Four years ago Biden ran a quiet campaign from a basement and beat him by 7 million votes. This was before in-dick-ments (sic) and the sexual assault (I.e. rape) conviction, and before the overturn of R v W, and before the insurrection (I.e. normal tourist day).
This time theres gonna be a blistering, withering campaign by Biden and its gonna make the LBJ Daisy ad look like a joke. The video alone is gonna toast Trumps nuts on Biscayne Boulevard and remembrance of things past like injecting bleach and UV light will re-demonstrate what a buffoon he is. And how dangerous he is to the populace. Hes a fucking political Typhoid Mary to down-ballot Republicans, or what passes for Republicans these days. Watch his medical condition as well: hes driving off a cliff faster than Thelma and Louise.
we can do it
(12,229 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,540 posts)The moment Biden wins and PO1135809 realizes his legal issues arent going to disappear magically as he expects and he gets to look forward to trials basically for the rest of his life that can go as slow as they want cuz he aint going nowhere unless he defects to Russia.
TwilightZone
(25,550 posts)That's not even remotely true.
ClimateHawk
(213 posts)TwilightZone
(25,550 posts)Sarcastically or otherwise.
PCIntern
(25,688 posts)Because all these people on DU arent going to vote, right?
And as campaigns go, the campaign of 2020 was relatively low-key in terms of traveling due to Covid, so we didnt have mass rallies like the old days.
No one here is complacent, but last I looked I was allowed to voice an opinion among my friends.
Kaleva
(36,445 posts)That Biden his in his basement while tfg supposedly campaigned in front of large crowds.
Deep State Witch
(10,488 posts)Yeah... his brownshirt rallies were just spreading the love... and the COVID.
Kaleva
(36,445 posts)after attending one of his rallies.
Herman Cain did, and it killed him. And I'm sure he wasn't the only one!
louis-t
(23,322 posts)Kaleva
(36,445 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)Tarc
(10,479 posts)like Trump gleefully did (r.i.p. Herman Cain) is what I believe the point was. Joe's public appearances and traditional campaign rallies were scaled-back and subdued and rightly so.
Smackdown2019
(1,194 posts)We were all in our basements in 2020.....
niyad
(114,146 posts)Tens of thousands dying?
Ohio Joe
(21,780 posts)He will be appealing them but the convictions will be there.
angrychair
(8,767 posts)His tactics here could not be more clear, it is not to win or even get it dismissed but to delay it for as long as possible.
I use Texas AG Ken Paxton as an example. Paxton has no where near the money or political power of Trump but has managed to drag out court cases against him for fraud and abuse of office for over 10 years. There is no court case in sight and no reason to believe it will ever happen. The Texas Supreme Court was just recently cowed into delaying it even further just by a couple of words from Trump.
Trump has significant political power and a truly unlimited bucket of money as his faithful will literally go hungry to give him money. He could likely delay any and all cases until doomsday by just repeatedly filling motions and appeals over and over again.
He didn't in the E Jean Carroll case because it was only money and as I already stated he has an unlimited bucket of money to pull from. Same thing with the civil fraud case in NY. The money is irrelevant as he can always get more from his followers. I would bet he easily bring in twice as much from those rubes as he ever did running any business he has ever owned.
LymphocyteLover
(5,668 posts)calimary
(81,641 posts)angrychair
(8,767 posts)Honestly do. This country is a complete shit show and headed downhill fast. The poor get poorer and rich get richer. It's depressing.
angrychair
(8,767 posts)That's just not dealing with reality. There is zero evidence to support a conviction before the election. No criminal trial has even got past the preliminary stages and he hasn't even begun to exhaust his ability to file motions and appeals.
The system is meant to protect people like Trump and grind regular people like the rest of us into dust.
wryter2000
(46,153 posts)He will likely go to court in DC with Chutkin in May or June. Unless he comes up with some other excuse, he'll be tried in the summer at the height of the campaign. Even if they agree to hear the case, they need five justices to put a stay on Chutkin. Even if the case goes to trial as late as August, he'd be in the middle of a campaign and a federal felony trial. Not exactly ideal for winning an election.
If SCOTUS agrees to hear it, grants a stay, and puts it on their regular calendar...you're right. It won't go to trial before 2025. Cannon is hopeless. Georgia won't go before 2025. That still leaves Alvin Bragg. I wouldn't be so certain that he can delay all of them.
SheilaAnn
(9,725 posts)calguy
(5,355 posts)The only way to kill off the MAGAts is humiliation at the polls. Disqualifying him from the ballot will only make him a martyr in the eyes of his rabid followers, and they'll still control the party.
A humiliating defeat down ticket will force the gopricks to take a look in the mirror. They still mighy not change, but at least they'll have to look.
WarGamer
(12,534 posts)BComplex
(8,102 posts)We need to get rid of all these veto-proof republican majorities in state legislatures, as well as taking full control of all three branches at the federal level.
wryter2000
(46,153 posts)And, I believe, in 2020. It has been done in places like Michigan. More can be done this year.
BComplex
(8,102 posts)Hope22
(1,916 posts)Just because he loses at the polls doesnt mean that he will concede. That is the big problem. Living that twice with the same insurrectionist is too much to bear.
keopeli
(3,530 posts)Hold a rally outside the Capitol.
Prevent Law Enforcement and National Guard from assisting.
Get his new VP to do his dirty work.
Use the bully pulpit of the POTUS
Get the Pentagon to do his bidding.
Get the DOJ to do his bidding.
Refuse to participate in the transfer of power.
And much more that a sitting President can do. Plus, he has lost the element of surprise.
Oh, he'll scream and yell and his yokels will cause a ruckus, but this time violence will be met with immediate arrest and the MSM, even Fox, will be rolling their eyes. Will he desperately try anything? Yes. Will he so easily get away with it? Not a chance this time around.
JustAnotherGen
(32,111 posts)And I think President Biden and VP Harris will demand the gates of hell be opened on any violent hordes who think they are going to replay January 6th.
The optics of it happening again will not be good for America.
NonPC
(308 posts)Love to see those wienies get hosed down. Film at 6 pm.
SlimJimmy
(3,185 posts)Hope22
(1,916 posts)I have a feeling the insurrection has never stopped and they may try paid forces next time. Maybe the Flynn crew or something of that nature. They will not take no for an answer. That being said, I hope you are right!
Hope22
(1,916 posts)Well not actually the first but real taste of the next 12 months will bring us
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218670496
Joinfortmill
(14,561 posts)uponit7771
(90,378 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(1,892 posts)There are huge differences between 2020 and 2024.
Agree with OP.
LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)He can't take any more classified documents with him.
He can't throw ketchup on the walls in the White House.
He can't have a rally on The Ellipse.
He won't be able to try to have Mike Pence hanged.
SarcasticSatyr
(1,189 posts)But we cannot be complacent, vote and encourage others to as well ..
DemocratInPa
(387 posts)2020, I thought he be annihilated, but it was really close and basically came down to 3 states, who all were very close.
I think we are looking at that again. Biden's numbers sadly just aren't good enough for me to say he is going to be annihilated.
Turnout will be the key.
Joinfortmill
(14,561 posts)mahina
(17,797 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,831 posts)I don't trust these motherfuckers!
Attilatheblond
(2,292 posts)That is what we really need to guard against, at every level and in every county!
LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)There are 3,143 counties and county-equivalents in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
And to make it more difficult is that there are multiple polling locations in each county that handle more than just one ballot.
In my county there are about 276 precincts with about 120 polling places. A polling place might handle one precinct or as many as six different precincts. And the ballots are not always the same for each precinct in a polling place. Which would make it difficult for someone to use the internet to change the results. Voting machines are not connected to the internet. There is a cartridge that is inserted into each election machine that is program beforehand for specific ballots based on the voter's address. The clerk that signs in a voter provides a card to the judge to insert into the machine that triggers the proper ballot.
Data from the voter's selections is transferred to the cartridge. At the close of voting a person from each party reviews the results on paper and the machine and both take the cartridge and paper receipt to election headquarters.
Those results are known by workers from both parties as well as people at election headquarters that accept the cartridge and enter it. If everything was done by one person it would be easy to manipulate the data. But that is not the case.
As a side note. Wisconsin handles their elections different. It is not managed by the county. Each city/village and town run it instead of a central county department.
Attilatheblond
(2,292 posts)And a lot of us attend county sups meetings because 2 of the 3 refused to certify our AUDITED ballots from 2020 until we almost ALL lost our franchise because the 2 Sups were delaying certification beyond the state's deadline.
Lots of work going on here, including new candidates for Supervisors after a recall barely failed. We are on our FOURTH election boss because the good one finally quit and sued, then the 2 sups hired a couple of losers who left when exposed. In between election bosses, our GOP County Recorder, took the helm and it has been a battle to get things right again, but we are getting it done.
Most here vote by mail and polling places are not by precinct, but open to all registered voters, which sure makes it easier for people who do not work near a home precinct polling place.
Two of the Sups are facing charges at state level. We are watching the Recorder like hawks and are busting our butts to replace him with someone who thinks laws are to be obeyed.
Not easy, and this county is GOP majority, but we are taking back fair elections. Also helping us is the fact that this county has LOTS of retirees and we have time to really dig in.
LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)from start to finish in your county. By whatever means possible. Getting the media included would be great. Understanding that will make it more difficult for them to challenge.
We have early voting at 5 locations in the county just before the election. One of them is for about a month.
In 2020, we had 267,870 registered voters with 171,079 voting. 64,541 voted on election day and 106,538 voted absentee.
Attilatheblond
(2,292 posts)You are correct, education is key, but so many people are willfully ignorant, and more are so busy just trying to work and feed their kids that civic engagement is lagging the need for civic engagement.
Getting educated is key, and there are ways for individuals to 'wise up'. Then taking the time to pen LTTE and such helps inform neighbors. Public meetings REALLY need attendance and exposure.
Retirees can be key in many areas. And the young voters... If us geezers work with the young people getting active, it is win/win.
LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)Another is also educating the precinct chairs and vice chairs. So they understand it and can communicate it to others.
bucolic_frolic
(43,614 posts)I'm glad to see someone say it. Biden will run a "blistering" campaign. If they give you room to run, sprint don't run with it.
LymphocyteLover
(5,668 posts)Sogo
(5,029 posts)but that's a matter for a higher power....
kimbutgar
(21,317 posts)The lies, messing up words, names of people and adoration of right wing dictators and himself declaring a dictator on day one. And the DNC has a lot more money to run President Biden's re election campaign because TFA took most of their money because he has to have someone pay his legal bills!
But I think the stress of the lawsuits will cause TFA to self destruct!
sarisataka
(18,980 posts)we have no one else to blame if it doesn't come to pass.
PCIntern
(25,688 posts)I dont think so.
sarisataka
(18,980 posts)But I recall a lot of complacency in 2016.
In 2020 the vast majority believed there was no possible way he could match his vote total of 2016. Reality was he exceeded his previous total significantly.
Never underestimate an opponent before the votes are counted.
JoseBalow
(2,691 posts)but I've been non-practicing for years
0rganism
(24,004 posts)However, as your post shows, Trump comes in with an important advantage: recognition.
I'm not talking "name recognition", which obviously is not an issue for TSF.
No, it's pronoun recognition. If you can make a post using only "He" as the titular identifier, and everyone instantly knows who you're talking about, that's a non-trivial condition. "He" looms large in America, not "too big to fail" I hope, but I don't see this as a cakewalk. No, if anything, I see a goddam nailbiter to the bitter end, and if "He" loses, TSF will call for violence from his substantial base of cruel cultish supporters and enough will answer to cause some real problems nationwide, not just at the capitol this time.
PCIntern
(25,688 posts)In the US. We are gonna metaphorically beat the living shit out of him and that is voluminous.
0rganism
(24,004 posts)I'm not clear on which countries are prepared to invade the USA to remove TSF should he once again attain the presidency; I suppose that would depend on his invasion schedule.
DFW
(54,582 posts)The only thing holding me back from full shouting in agreement is that I do not count out an onslaught of Republican electoral fraud. They see the same numbers we do, and they are wondering if there is anything, legal or otherwise, that they can do about it. If they think it will make a difference in their favor, they will toss "legal" out with yesterday's trash, and go with the "otherwise."
Warpy
(111,528 posts)but I am happy to read all the puff pieces that tell the voting public it's some kind of horse race. People who might otherwise stay on the the couch instead of going out in the cold in November to vote will be frightened into doing just that.
He was really an unknown quantity in 2016, at least outside NY, New England and Scotland (and the latter can't vote here, more's the pity). People thought he was that heavily scripted business genius and multiple billionaire they saw on their TVs.
There's no excuse now, especially with so many family members sucked into the cult and impossible to be around. Frighten them that he might win again, they'll button up those coats and to out to vote.
So grin at the horse race stories. They're on our side.
Wounded Bear
(58,822 posts)edhopper
(33,703 posts)Don't get cocky kid!
republianmushroom
(13,987 posts)As I recall it was said he had no chance, but,.....
Do not become over confident, if you do, you may not like what happens.
sprinkleeninow
(20,276 posts)Love you!"
Signed, FFFF
Yah, that's the ticket...
C Moon
(12,228 posts)If he knows he's going to lose, he'll do anything possible to create chaoseven moving to Russia, and divulging more secrets.
FalloutShelter
(11,939 posts)WestMichRad
(1,353 posts)Heres hoping his coattails (diaper tails?) drag a lot of his syncopatic congresscritters down with him.
Expect them to scream loudly about the election being rigged, but nothing to come of their histrionics.
Torchlight
(3,498 posts)Walls are slowly but inexorably closing in on him, and before long he won't have room to move. My guess is the next two or three months we're covered by his loony libretto after which, he falls wholly into caricature and blazes out in peak tantrum.
spanone
(136,006 posts)wiggs
(7,831 posts)for him to endorse someone else in exchange for pardons
I expect there will be 'lols' re that comment and with reason given his mental sickness. But it remains his best chance at pardons.
Mr.Bee
(192 posts)Biden called out Republican'ts wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare at SOTU and how shocked they were!
Now the Republican'ts are campaigning on it (Nikki Haley), it's what the Republican't party represents - Social Security Advantage and Medicare Advantage.
wryter2000
(46,153 posts)I can't scream "Amen" loudly enough. The poll are BS. They haven't predicted anything for years. Ignore them.
As Katy Tur often asks her guests--"Who's going to vote for him who didn't in 2020?" No-EFFING-one is. And boodles of people who did vote for him are going to vote for Biden. Or not vote or vote for Manchin.
His deterioration is so obvious, his attempts at campaigning will only make the situation worse for him. I hope to God at least one person puts together a video comparing how he spoke in 2016 as opposed to now. The difference is scary.
On top of that, ninety percent of the Republicans have tied their fate to him with stupid things like blocking that border/Israel/Ukraine bill. He's going to tank them all.
rzemanfl
(29,589 posts)I agree with the OP, but that does not mean I will stop hoping every morning that the orange anus died or became incapacitated while I slept.
wryter2000
(46,153 posts)I don't want it to happen while I'm asleep. I want to watch.
rzemanfl
(29,589 posts)livetohike
(22,175 posts)through videos, tweets, statements from others of how unfit for office Trump is, etc. a nice short campaign ad would be UNFIT in all caps. No need to explain.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,891 posts)Give Joe a 60 seat Senate majority with 50 additional seats in the House. Then watch how change happens.
brooklynite
(95,157 posts)They tell me its going to be close in both the vote count and EV.
Greybnk48
(10,184 posts)and the slobfather is going to take the GOP and MAGAts with him! 100%
myohmy2
(3,251 posts)...I think it's going to be close, very close, too close...
...whatever's happening to trump doesn't matter...half of America has granted him political immunity...
...haven't you noticed...?
...
DemocratInPa
(387 posts)They look at 2020 and see it as a blowout, but wasn't. The election basically came down to 3 states which all were .05% or less.
The popular vote looks bad, but California made up like 5 Million of that.
I think Biden wins, but I am just worried with his numbers not being great, he isn't going to get the turnout for independents and Repubs he did in 2020.
I also worry about Gen Z. They are upset about certain things.
ificandream
(9,449 posts)I've been saying that there is a lot of discontent with Trump from the Silent Majority who would much rather have a quiet leader like Biden instead of the loudmouth that Trump is. I think we'll be fine come November. I don't know that it'll be a landslide, but I think Trump will be dog poop.
PatrickforB
(14,613 posts)of baggage weighing them down, and I won't even mention that their whole party structure seems to be disintegrating.
My hope is Trumpy walks away with the GOP nomination this July. I think Biden will beat him handily, and that he will very likely have a major health event prior to the election.
I say this because I was at work, but my wife watched the SCOTUS hearings today and she believes they will rule against Colorado. We'll see how it plays out, of course, but this is what she thinks. She said she hates to even hear Clarence Thomas talk.
onecaliberal
(33,034 posts)It's pathetic watching the people spinning like tops to make excuses.
Wild blueberry
(6,688 posts)Eloquently.
May it be so.
(Everyone I know is working to make it so.)
ecstatic
(32,826 posts)I don't trust the gop.
Hekate
(91,160 posts)crickets
(26,004 posts)Love it, PCIntern! Already marked the primary date and I'm ready to go vote. Let's do this!!
Norbert
(6,047 posts)In Ohio it is a GOP battle over who can lick dump's anus the most. I sure hope this backfires big time.
sellitman
(11,613 posts)It sounds right but the world we live in doesn't make sense most of the time.
Kennah
(14,386 posts)FDR would be okay with this, knocking FDR out of the #1 slot in his win over Alf Landon in 1936--523 out of 531 electoral votes at that time
OverBurn
(977 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,713 posts)People who voted for Biden three years ago were disgusted by Trump. He hasn't cleaned up his act since then.
I kind of hope he stays on the ballot in Colorado and other states. He can't win if we get motivated.
Stuart G
(38,477 posts)RocRizzo55
(980 posts)One of the cardiac variety. Then we will be rid of him for good.
Glaisne
(517 posts)DownriverDem
(6,248 posts)The Arab American community in Dearborn Michigan has turned against Biden. I know it's crazy thinking trump would be a better choice with his hate towards anyone not a white repub Christian. They are planning to not vote for him in our 2/27 presidential primary.
yankee87
(2,206 posts)to God's ear.
PennRalphie
(127 posts)Here in PA, Biden is going to win in a total landslide. Probably 12-15 points. The economy here is booming. Our fantastic Governor is going to be a great surrogate for Biden. I understand why some want to tamper expectations, but there isnt one state Biden won in 20 that he wont win this year.
LaMouffette
(2,044 posts)be:
"But! But! No one has EVER received SO FEW VOTES in a presidential election! That PROVES the election was RIGGED!!! Voter fraud! Voter fraud! Rigged election machines! Hugo Chavez! Dead people voting! Blah! Blah! Blah!"
I can't wait and I sincerely hope that it IS Donald Trump on the ballot in November,.
LiberalFighter
(51,500 posts)It won't have the same impact as LBJ but still should be considered stunning.
I've been figuring at least 10 million. Maybe as high as 12 million. Now if Drumpf were to be taken off the ballot for California that would add more. The same for Illinois or other states.
Drumpf didn't have his current issues in 2016. Nor were they a factor in 2020. In 2020, it was because voters saw first hand with their eyes and ears how much of an idiot he is.
Silent Type
(3,104 posts)sop
(10,358 posts)We don't want the stench of Trump's toasting testicles anywhere near Biscayne Boulevard. Let them toast his nuts on Royal Palm Way.
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