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newdayneeded

(1,977 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 09:19 AM Feb 2024

Boarder crises solution (expensive)

Mexico is creating an inter-oceanic corridor that will be a combination canal and train route. If the US sent about 200+ billion, Mexico could make it a complete canal over 300 ft wide x 70ft deep for world shipping. it would be a natural block for migrants. instead of umpteen billions on a wall, spend it on an effective barrier like a wide canal.

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Boarder crises solution (expensive) (Original Post) newdayneeded Feb 2024 OP
Yea, but it works against shithole and his cult................................. Lovie777 Feb 2024 #1
But, Biden could use this newdayneeded Feb 2024 #2
"Mexico is creating an inter-oceanic corridor that will be a combination canal and train route." mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2024 #3
I have no idea how this would relate to crossing the US border fargone Feb 2024 #4
Blow up boats are easier to use than ladders... right? WarGamer Feb 2024 #5
I'm not sure I follow Zeitghost Feb 2024 #6
The mystery boarders are back! Prairie Gates Feb 2024 #7

Lovie777

(12,779 posts)
1. Yea, but it works against shithole and his cult.................................
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 10:23 AM
Feb 2024

they would have nothing to cry about - border crises.

Plus Abbott and his lovely Texas won't be able to bus illegal immigrants to Blue cities which to date have spent approx. 112 million dollars of I assume taxpayer monies............over 100 thousand has been illegally transported.

Abbott is the open border person. His motto, come to the Texas border, cross over and we guarantee safe passage to Blue Cities!

newdayneeded

(1,977 posts)
2. But, Biden could use this
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 10:36 AM
Feb 2024

to his advantage. it's a win win. The trumpers need to take the bait or Biden can push the "See they're not serious about the boarder" then state your reasons as well. If they do take the bait and push for it, it actually could be a very effective migrant block.

mahatmakanejeeves

(58,317 posts)
3. "Mexico is creating an inter-oceanic corridor that will be a combination canal and train route."
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 12:59 PM
Feb 2024
Mexico is creating an inter-oceanic corridor that will be a combination canal and train route.

Ummm, not quite. An existing rail line has been upgraded to handle additional service.

Here's the story:

The 100-year-old railway Mexico hopes will rival the Panama Canal

The route will run across Mexico's narrowest point, connecting the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean

BY SORCHA BRADLEY, THE WEEK UK
PUBLISHED OCTOBER 18, 2023

The Mexican government is reviving a century-old railway line between the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean, in the hope that the route can one day rival the Panama Canal. ... The restoration is part of a "bold bid to steal container traffic" away from the waterway, said the Financial Times.

The project "seeks to capitalise on multinationals' desire to be closer to the US" as well as the periods of low water levels in the Panama Canal as the region suffers "increasingly frequent droughts", said the paper.

Part of the development of The Tehuantepec Interoceanic Corridor (CIIT), a signature project of President Andres Manuel López Obrador, the interoceanic railway will run for 303km across Mexico's narrowest point, with the main line running between the port cities of Salina Cruz, Oaxaca, and Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz.

{snip}

A true alternative to Panama Canal?

There are doubts. {snip} Another major problem is the train route's capacity. Its maximum annual cargo capacity would be about 10.5% of the total amount of goods carried through the Panama Canal in 2022, according to calculations from the FT.

Mexico launches Interoceanic Train service
By Trains Staff | December 23, 2023

Route across Isthmus of Tehuantepec is envisioned as competition for Panama Canal



Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador speaks at a Friday event marking the inauguration of Interoceanic train service. Government of Mexico
SALINA CRUZ, Mexico — For the second straight week, Mexico has inaugurated passenger service on a new rail line.

On Friday, operations began for the Interoceanic Railroad, a 188-mile route connecting Coatzacoalcos, on the Gulf of Mexico, with Salina Cruz, on the Pacific Coast. It is the key piece of the Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, a $2.8 billion project that also includes expansion of the ports at the two endpoints, as well as creation of a series of industrial parks and upgraded highways.

The rail line and corridor have been championed by President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who also led the construction of the controversial Maya Train line that opened last week [see “Long delays, late trains mark start of Maya Train service,” Trains News Wire, Dec. 17, 2023]. A branch line connecting the Interoceanic Corridor and the Maya train is slated to be completed next year.



The Interoceanic Railroad and its passenger stations. Ferrocarril del Istmo de Tehantepec

If the US sent about 200+ billion, Mexico could make it a complete canal over 300 ft wide x 70ft deep for world shipping. it would be a natural block for migrants. instead of umpteen billions on a wall, spend it on an effective barrier like a wide canal.

That's rather a lot of money. It's a low-elevation crossing, but you'd still have to lift container ships up some 500 or 600 feet and then back down again. Don't forget the artificial lakes you'd have to build to supply the water for the locks.

Also, that is one big canal lock. I'm not sure what the biggest canal locks in the world are, but I can't imagine that they are anywhere near that size.

https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-krnd57/Mexico/?center=17.18278%2C-95.40782&zoom=8&popup=19.55505%2C-97.15904

Right now, the railroad cars are offloaded from the oceangoing car carriers for the rail journey to the other side of the isthmus. Note that these are railroad cars, not containers, in the picture.

Can Mexico’s isthmus corridor be an alternative to the Panama Canal?

Travis Bembenek
August 21, 2023

{snip}



A cargo ship docks in the port of Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz. (Wikimedia Commons)

{snip}

More: https://news.google.com/search?for=canal+across+mexico&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec

Zeitghost

(3,975 posts)
6. I'm not sure I follow
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 08:30 PM
Feb 2024

The proposed route is 1000 miles from the US border and it's not like any trans-Mexico canal wouldn't have bridges built over it.

I'm not sure how this would be a barrier in any way.

Prairie Gates

(1,259 posts)
7. The mystery boarders are back!
Mon Feb 5, 2024, 08:30 PM
Feb 2024

All jokes aside, the idea of massively funding infrastructure in the departure countries so that migrants don't want to/have to leave is probably right. Meloni (supposedly a hater of migrants) proposed just that to deal with the EU's migrant issues.

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