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kentuck

(111,545 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:01 AM Jan 2024

Does Donald Trump have dementia?

If so, it can accelerate very rapidly.

Six weeks can seem like six months. The deterioration happens more quickly than most people realize. I am speaking from personal experience.

His supporters need to realize the direction he is going.

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Does Donald Trump have dementia? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2024 OP
It's hard to tell be because he was so low skilled Johonny Jan 2024 #1
Except I don't remember him making the kind of mistakes last election that he is now Maraya1969 Jan 2024 #4
He had General Washington taking airports Johonny Jan 2024 #6
Oh yea, you are right. Maraya1969 Jan 2024 #14
the historic Battle of Baggage Claim speak easy Jan 2024 #28
I still say he wants to mention Obama because it gets louis-t Jan 2024 #36
prognosis: jcgoldie Jan 2024 #10
It's terminal greediness. He wanted to control the world and found there Wonder Why Jan 2024 #2
Yes Botany Jan 2024 #3
I venture to say that I hate the guy more than the average never-Trumper, but.. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2024 #20
I have thought he has tertiary syphilis for years .... since '15 ... especially when he spoke about the danger Botany Jan 2024 #41
He has certainly deteriorated.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #5
Where I currently live... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #7
This clipboard assessment makes sense. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2024 #23
No. He sounds exactly the same as he did in 2020. Batshit crazy. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #8
Hide the scissors bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #9
I've Read That It Accelerates Faster In People WiVoter Jan 2024 #11
They will not be able to hide it. kentuck Jan 2024 #12
One sure fire way to tell and its multigraincracker Jan 2024 #13
This looks like perfectly normal behavior for someone seeking a high leadership position Blue Owl Jan 2024 #15
DFT's former attorney sez... RainCaster Jan 2024 #19
DJT in entertainer mode. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #24
What was he immitating there? Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #25
How would one know? Sailingdiver Jan 2024 #16
One of the reasons Haley is staying in frogstar0 Jan 2024 #17
If it walks like a duck................. Firestorm49 Jan 2024 #18
He has it and he is a carrier - makes others deny reality rurallib Jan 2024 #21
I have not noticed any changes in rump but Tickle Jan 2024 #22
He doesn't have to drive the plane, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #31
At the rate he is mentally failing nevergiveup Jan 2024 #26
Deep South homegirl Jan 2024 #30
If the choice for them is to go out in the cold k55f5r Jan 2024 #33
If he does it's a fortunate coincidence that might allow him live love laugh Jan 2024 #27
He's definitely gotten slower Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #29
That putty he puts on his face gab13by13 Jan 2024 #32
Narcissism and dementia combined radical noodle Jan 2024 #34
I hope that his is the worst possible, and soon. niyad Jan 2024 #37
Not sure if it's dementia or being held to account.. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #35
Need a Vet's opinion Hippo_The_Pointer Jan 2024 #38
Honestly, he doesn't sound all that different than Bettie Jan 2024 #39
TFG may have frontal lobe dementia. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #40
I used to work on a senior ward at a hospital. We call this condition "altered." librechik Jan 2024 #42
Dementia can progress very very slowly mucifer Jan 2024 #43
Without a doubt. (nt) Paladin Jan 2024 #44
Dementia would only make him more unfit than he already is. RoeVWade Jan 2024 #45
He obviously has cognitive difficulties liberalmediaaddict Jan 2024 #46

Johonny

(21,394 posts)
1. It's hard to tell be because he was so low skilled
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:04 AM
Jan 2024

He didn’t just start stumbling over words, slurring words, making up words, ranting, and talking at a 3rd grade level. That's Trump from 1980s to present. I can’t tell the difference. He's dumb, lazy and repetitive. And always has been.

Only a doctor examination could tell, but he sees quacks so no chance we ever know until it's too late.

Maraya1969

(22,811 posts)
4. Except I don't remember him making the kind of mistakes last election that he is now
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:24 AM
Jan 2024

Like forgetting who he ran against or getting people's names and titles mixed up. That sounds kind of new to me. AND back then no one was questioning if he had dementia. He was just a big fat jerk then

Johonny

(21,394 posts)
6. He had General Washington taking airports
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:28 AM
Jan 2024

Last election. And thought Fredrick Douglas was a living person . . . The list of Trump stumbling and slurring words while ranting is near endless.

louis-t

(23,428 posts)
36. I still say he wants to mention Obama because it gets
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:48 PM
Jan 2024

screams from his worshipers. I think he does it on purpose. For a while, he was screaming "Barack Hussein Obama" at his Nazi rallies.

Wonder Why

(3,794 posts)
2. It's terminal greediness. He wanted to control the world and found there
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jan 2024

is a universe out there he cannot control so it has overwhelmed his small brain causing shorting.

Botany

(71,116 posts)
3. Yes
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:23 AM
Jan 2024

He has always had “things going on upstairs” but over the past 6 months things
have gotten worse cognitively for Trump. I think tertiary syphilis might have some-
thing to do with it.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,517 posts)
20. I venture to say that I hate the guy more than the average never-Trumper, but..
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jan 2024

there is NO evidence that he has syphilis, regardless of stage.

Botany

(71,116 posts)
41. I have thought he has tertiary syphilis for years .... since '15 ... especially when he spoke about the danger
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 02:00 PM
Jan 2024

…. he went through of getting an STD when others went to Vietnam because he Donny J Trump was at
risk from going out and having sex with women he met @ night clubs and then said something like but
I never got it. You can count on whatever that turd bucket says is 180 degrees from the truth. The
pictures of him with what looked like syphilitic shankars on his hands with a bandage on the back of
his neck a few weeks ago were damning (if real).

Happy Hoosier

(7,664 posts)
5. He has certainly deteriorated....
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jan 2024

Not sure if it is technically "dementia," But just compare videos of him from 2016 to today.... the dude has scrambled eggs in his skull. It's a stew of entitlement, hate, and malice.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,374 posts)
7. Where I currently live...
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jan 2024

There are several residents who I have gotten to know over the 18 months. I have noticed deterioration in them. They tend to repeat the same thing over and over again because that is all that they can remember. Their physical appearance is changing as well, hygiene habits too.

The Dipshit is showing visible signs of dementia, possible drug use as well. Couldn't happen to a nicer Dipshit.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,517 posts)
23. This clipboard assessment makes sense.
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:02 PM
Jan 2024

The drugs are overcompensating for mental decline. It's possible that he's going full-bore with stimulants like Adderall, and it's affecting his mental processing when on stage. But without the stimulants, he'd be shoeless with coffee stains on his shirt.

bucolic_frolic

(44,632 posts)
9. Hide the scissors
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:49 AM
Jan 2024

Such anger is a tell. There is going to be a triggering event. They can be benign, running away, driving hundreds of miles away. It's like they break contact with reality and the limits on their reality. By that measure, Trump is just about there. But they can also become violent, abruptly. Smashing furniture, slashing things. Hide the scissors, lock up the knives, no glassware. That's the advice at that point.

WiVoter

(1,010 posts)
11. I've Read That It Accelerates Faster In People
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 10:52 AM
Jan 2024

who are “younger,” relatively speaking of course.

Farmer-Rick

(10,609 posts)
25. What was he immitating there?
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:16 PM
Jan 2024

He looks like he's coming out of the womb.

His hands look so tiny there.

frogstar0

(56 posts)
17. One of the reasons Haley is staying in
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 11:46 AM
Jan 2024

She is looking for a health event, and going down the dementia drain is one of the possibilities.
She is looking for a court event, 14th adm, convictions etc.

If she is still running, and the only one, she maybe can grab the delegates. Although many MAGAs will vote for him even if he were dead.

Tickle

(2,787 posts)
22. I have not noticed any changes in rump but
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:00 PM
Jan 2024

I guess if I hear every day, I'll accept it.
I do see him in NYC in the morning and another state in the afternoon.

gab13by13

(22,728 posts)
31. He doesn't have to drive the plane,
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:37 PM
Jan 2024

A couple of Ambien on the plane and he is refreshed in another state.

nevergiveup

(4,813 posts)
26. At the rate he is mentally failing
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jan 2024

I believe we will know by May. I think it is 50/50 that if Haley can hang in there she will be the nominee. For those who don't think the MAGA fools will vote for Haley in a general then please tell me who you think they will vote for because THEY WILL VOTE and it won't be for Biden.

homegirl

(1,469 posts)
30. Deep South
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:37 PM
Jan 2024

voting for a WOMAN of COLOR? With great reluctance, if at all...Hopefully 10 to 15% will stay home, which is great for the down ballot Democratic candidates.

k55f5r

(256 posts)
33. If the choice for them is to go out in the cold
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jan 2024

voting for an INDIAN WOMAN of COLOR or staying home to watch the season opener of Yellowstone (whatever), then there will be a lot of tv watching going on.
MY Prediction - Lowest voter turnout for Rethuglians ever. I can see a lot of them voting for RFK jr with trump off the ballot.

Farmer-Rick

(10,609 posts)
29. He's definitely gotten slower
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jan 2024

More haphazard in his monologues, I wouldn't call them speeches. His ramblings have gotten more frequent. His word salads have less coherence then they use to. That upturned nose and droopy scowl has become his look where before he use to smile more often.

The fact that he couldn't stop humiliating E J Carroll in public even after being fined $5 million says a lot. Trump loves money, he's all greed. Giving it away really is something he loathes. So, I believe he's going to slip and attack her again. I bet his kids are monitoring his tweets and teleprompter to keep him from giving away more of their inheritance.

His hair has gotten whiter and more wispy. He uses more and darker make up. He's gotten saggy.

Maybe he's lost some weight or is on a medication to take the weight off. I doubt rich people exercise or diet to lose weight anymore. They can just get a medicine that will drop 60 pounds off their corpulent bodies in less than 6 months.

radical noodle

(8,056 posts)
34. Narcissism and dementia combined
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jan 2024

might be different than the normal person with dementia.

https://psychcentral.com/pro/exhausted-woman/2017/01/the-aging-narcissist-adding-dementia-to-the-mix#2

Despite what a narcissist will pontificate, even they are subject to the effects of getting older. Becoming elderly is a normal part of the developmental stage of life for most people, but not for the narcissistic. They view aging as an ultimate evil. Some will engage in ridiculous plastic surgery in an effort to look as young as they feel. Others will begin a new career while their peers are retiring. And still, others will take on far younger partners.

But what the narcissist can't do is dodge the effects of dementia. As a progressive indiscriminate disorder which sometimes transforms into Alzheimer’s or other disorders, dementia affects every area of the brain in random order. What seemed natural and habitual now becomes foreign and difficult. Memory becomes scattered and unreliable. Familiar people become strangers or even enemies that are out to get them.

For the narcissist, this is completely unacceptable. Most narcissists rely heavily on their cognitive abilities as a way of constantly demonstrating superiority over others in performance, influence, power, beauty, or money. Any sign that is is deteriorating or diminishing is out of the question, something that cannot and will not be tolerated. This is when the narcissist is most at risk for suicidal behavior.


There's more, including a good breakdown of phases in the article.

While I doubt trump is inclined toward suicide, I do think a demented narcissist will not have a good end-of-life experience.

limbicnuminousity

(1,409 posts)
35. Not sure if it's dementia or being held to account..
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:45 PM
Jan 2024

but he's losing any semblance of composure in the courtrooms. Huffing and puffing at a judge suggests he's incapable of exerting self-control even when it's for self-preservation. The more he's penalized, the worse he becomes. Stress and drugs and being held accountable may well push him into lala-land.

38. Need a Vet's opinion
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 12:58 PM
Jan 2024

I would suggest that only an appropriately trained medical professional can make that call. In this specific situation I would suggest TFG undergo a careful examination by a veterinarian.

Bettie

(16,520 posts)
39. Honestly, he doesn't sound all that different than
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jan 2024

he did in 2016. He's never been the sharpest crayon in the box.

librechik

(30,721 posts)
42. I used to work on a senior ward at a hospital. We call this condition "altered."
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 02:28 PM
Jan 2024

And we would have tied him to a wheelchair.

But maybe he is just in an "altered state" because of the ketamine in Dr. Donny's drug treatment.

liberalmediaaddict

(850 posts)
46. He obviously has cognitive difficulties
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 03:00 PM
Jan 2024

Especially with speech and word finding. Problem is the right wing media has been effective at convincing many Americans that Biden's cognitive issues are even worse.

If what they say about Biden was true his cabinet would have invoked the 25th amendment years ago. The reality is there's no evidence he's unable to do his job as President and fulfill his responsibilities.

Biden does move slower due to age and has never been the strongest communicator. While Trump compensates for his mental impairment and poor physical health with his manic, loud speeches where he's waving his arms wildly. People mistake that for stamina and strength.

Because the major networks aren't covering Trump's deranged rally speeches and Truth Social posts the majority of Americans have no clue how much he's deteriorated since 2016. Meanwhile every Biden gaffe or stumble gets wall to wall coverage.

Unfortunately it's very difficult for Democrats to break through all the right wing propaganda and show Trump unfiltered. The Biden campaign is definitely trying.

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