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NickB79

(19,326 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:25 PM Jan 2024

How does one hypothetically establish a permanent ceasefire with Hamas left in power?

I'm asking for real answers from everyone calling for such a thing, because that part always seems to be glossed over. Let's say Israel fails at wiping out Hamas (good likelihood of that, IMO). How do you see a permanent ceasefire playing out in Gaza, if Hamas is left as the defacto government?

If your answer is free elections to remove them, I'd like to hear why you believe Hamas will be defeated democratically, and why they'd relinquish their current power peacefully.

Or, are we expecting Hamas to revoke their charter calling for the extermination of all Jews everywhere and suddenly start working to improve the lives of Palestinians instead of building more tunnel networks and rockets?

Will the current leadership be brought before the UN for their role in Oct 7?

What would be the punishment for potentially breaking the ceasefire? Would a multinational armed response from UN members be acceptable similar to the UN role in Bosnia in the 90's? Would armed UN soldiers patrol Gaza as a peacekeeping force? Would a single rocket attack be enough to qualify, even if the Iron Dome intercepted it?

Or would both sides cede land to establish a no-man's-land similar to the Korean DMZ?

If the goal is a truly PERMANENT ceasefire, these are just a few of the questions that need answers, IMO.

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How does one hypothetically establish a permanent ceasefire with Hamas left in power? (Original Post) NickB79 Jan 2024 OP
You don't. The entire premise is bogus. TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #1
"Ceasefire" is slang for "Exterminate Jews". Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #2
There is ForgedCrank Jan 2024 #3

TheKentuckian

(25,038 posts)
1. You don't. The entire premise is bogus.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:49 PM
Jan 2024

The call is exclusively a demand for absolute impunity for terrorist attacks and perceptual savagery in a state of constant threat against Israeli civilians.

ForgedCrank

(1,809 posts)
3. There is
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:56 PM
Jan 2024

no peace with them. Even if they go their wish and Israel was destroyed, they'll simply move on to next on their list.
Even the majority of the population there supports the Hamas leadership. I see no other way to solve the issue other than what Israel is already doing right now.

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