So what "gaffes" has Biden supposedly made?

[senseandsensibility]

Since corporate media was finally shamed into mentioning Cheato's countless and serious recorded gaffes and given permission to mention them when Haley did, they still won't mention them without both sidering it. No surprise there to most of us.

They say that Rs have been jumping on Biden's gaffes, but never say what they are. Seriously, does anyone know?

[ITAL]

1. A few general misspeaks

Basically everyone who speaks a lot in public will make some from time to time. Nothing as hilariously awful as Trump's American soldiers taking over airports during our Revolution against the British or anything though (I still haven't gotten over that one). Here was one from Ireland. Pretty standard fumbling over words that, as I just said, just about everyone who has a camera in their face and has every comment they make recorded does now and again.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/13/politics/biden-all-blacks-gaffe-intl/index.html

[senseandsensibility]

4. Thanks

Pretty weak sauce, which is probably why the corporate media doesn't mention them. If they were half as bad as Cheato's, they'd play them on a rotating loop all day long.

[claudette]

2. The one I heard

was Biden saying he took a photo op with someone named Deborah and she wasn’t there. I’m trying to find it online.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/18/joe-biden-says-he-took-photo-with-deborah-ross-in-/

[Demsrule86]

10. This is a reach...and Washington Times is a right wing rag.

I wouldn't post anything from them. Mistaking a Congresswoman you barely know isn't the something as believing Obama is still president and Trump thinks he is running against Obama.

[claudette]

13. Agree

If didn’t bother me. I just recall seeing it.

[WarGamer]

3. The only one that comes to mind is...

After Rep. Walorski died... and Biden released a condolence message, he asked if she was in attendance at a rally.

And Corn Pop... really minor stuff really... anyone who thinks he has dementia is just a partisan hack or doesn't know what dementia is.

[maxsolomon]

7. I thought Corn Pop's name was known.

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IIRC, that was corroborated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/there-really-was-a-corn-pop--but-critics-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-oft-told-story/2019/09/16/227115c8-d8ac-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

[former9thward]

5. He has said his son died in Iraq.

Several times to several different groups. I don't know if you consider that a gaffe or not.

[senseandsensibility]

6. I don't since

I think he has explained that he meant as a result of his service in Iraq. But I can see that it should not have been worded like that.

[former9thward]

8. No one has said it was because of Iraq service.

Snopes says it was false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/beau-biden-die-in-iraq/

His disease was not related to service. When he came from Iraq he did not have cancer.

[senseandsensibility]

11. Well it was my understanding

that he was exposed to chemicals there and that's what Biden believes. Whether it can be proven or not is another thing.

[mopinko]

25. the va does. that's what the pact act was all about.

[former9thward]

29. That law was passed long after Beau passed.

Beau did not die in Iraq which the original comment was about. He was a lawyer for his unit in Iraq.

[mopinko]

32. nitpick

[pwb]

51. We know what he meant.

He died from burn pits in Iraq. Typical of you.

[dsc]

41. that isn't how cancer works

it takes time for the cancer to develop. The US govt literally passed a bill to pay vets for the cancer from those burn pits. That was the bill the GOP originally killed via filibuster until they were shamed into unkilling it.

[former9thward]

42. How would a lawyer, acting as a lawyer, be involved in burn pits?

[dsc]

43. Maybe they all had to use them

maybe they were by the latrines, I honestly don't know. but I do know he was in Iraq, that the burn pits were in Iraq, and he got the cancer associated with the burn pits in Iraq. So yea, I think it is fair to say he got cancer in Iraq since he wasn't around burn pits in the US or anywhere else.

[former9thward]

44. A lot of people get brain cancer.

And they were not in Iraq. I was in Iraq 2003-4 and the latrines were not "latrines" off to the side of the camp. They were in regular housing. I believe in science. Just because you are in the same country where there are burn pits does not mean you got cancer from them. But this is all completely off the point of the original comment. The original comment was about where B. Biden died. He died in the U.S.

[Walleye]

9. I believe he said his son died as a result of serving in Iraq

Beware of misquotes that the right wing likes to harp on

[Demsrule86]

12. Biden's kid was exposed to poison in Iraq...and there is evidence. Regardless, Biden believes

this so as you noted, it was not a gaffe.

[Walleye]

18. Exactly, and I can't blame him for thinking that was the cause of the cancer

[MyNameIsJonas]

19. Biden isn't saying his son died as a result of the war.

He's said his son died in Iraq. There is a difference.

My dad died from complications due to Agent Orange, which he was exposed to while serving in Vietnam. But I would never say he died in Vietnam.

I do think he means as a result but he needs to make sure that's what he's saying as it does sound like he's claiming Beau died in Iraq.

"My son was a major in the US Army. We lost him in Iraq."

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-beau-death-claim-iraq-b2344269.html

[Demsrule86]

48. Some are looking to say negative things about Biden..IMHO. I support Democrats.

Biden is fine. And I have heard him discuss his son and Iraq before. Biden is the Democratic nominee so those who spread this king of garbage help Trump...make no mistake. We all need to support Biden and the Democratic ticket. I am not referring to you. It is a general comment. I want to go after Trump during this election. Let's not eat our own.

[MyNameIsJonas]

50. Biden needs to be clearer.

This isn't eating our own - it's pointing out how problematic something like this could be if he isn't clear on it. Claiming his son died in Iraq is not just a minor comment like when he said he convinced Strom Thurmond to support the Civil Rights Act (he meant the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act). That's an understandable slip of the tongue.

Claiming your son died in the Iraq War - not from complications associated with what he believes was a result of the Iraq War - is a pretty big problem that can absolutely hurt his campaign if he continues to make that claim.

The one area people really seem to get upset over is making false statements when it comes to military service or action. Beau is heroic enough and his passing unfortunate enough that Biden doesn't need to say he died in Iraq.

I have no problem with Biden saying he believes Beau's serving in Iraq led to his death. But saying "My son was a major in the US Army. We lost him in Iraq,'" is not that.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. My favorite "gaffe"...

A decade later, when he was vice president, Biden made a stunning declaration in a television interview when he announced his support for same-sex marriage. Biden’s revelation created a stir in political circles because he had gotten ahead of his boss, President Barack Obama, who followed days later with his own public endorsement of same-sex nuptials.
source

I will always credit him for the turning of the tide in response to "gay marriage". He is a Queer-O to me!

[senseandsensibility]

15. Good answer

[shrike3]

16. I saw that in real time.

I remember thinking, "Holy crap."

[Ms. Toad]

28. His daughers and their gay friends, as well as his gay and trans staff members deserve more credit.

It was exposure up close, and in person, that allowed Obama to move beyond his tolerate but separate stance on same gender marriage.

Biden may have triggered the public announcement, but it was being in the company of out queer folk on a more regular basis that changed the tide for not only Obama, but the country as well.

[yardwork]

33. I remember that and love him for it.

I think Joe Biden is a genuinely kind and good person. I've become very fond of him. Can't remember liking any president as much (Obama comes close).

Did you see this? I loved it.

?si=G2QZlh_SzbBO7_Bn

[TheProle]

17. His term as President has been relatively gaffe-free

The inflated academic claims and plagiarism that crashed his 1988 campaign were stupid and self-inflicted, but other than some tone-deaf statements about Indian-Americans, he's been a pretty straight-shooter since, occasionally misspeaking as any normal person would.

[senseandsensibility]

21. That is my impression as well

In fact, he seems fairly gaffe free for someone as closely watched as he is. Even a younger person commits gaffes occasionally.

[MyNameIsJonas]

20. I don't think he's had many gaffes but he also isn't put in position for them.

He rarely does press conferences and most his speeches are from the teleprompter. He only seems to gaffe when he strays from the teleprompter but nothing really egregious.

[forthemiddle]

22. Honestly, they are both old

And that has been a huge talking points on both sides (yes, both siderism).
Both candidates know that the general public are looking at the ages of the candidates and wondering where the next generation is. You can rely on the fact that a main talking point will be, “well he’s showing his age, and declining more than I am”.
The American public are sick of old white men choices, but the party faithful want their guy.
So this talking point is what we are stuck with.

[maxsolomon]

23. Yeah, it's just the "party faithful" keeping us from the promised land of... who?

Kamala Harris?

[emulatorloo]

24. Honestly, off topic.

[MichMan]

26. While he was VP he got a Purple Heart for his uncle Frank was one I recall hearing about.

Joe had a discussion with his dad after he was VP about his uncle Frank being eligible for a Purple Heart that was never given. As VP, Joe said he obtained the medal and presented it to his uncle. When he presented it to him, his uncle tried to refuse it saying he didn't deserve it because he lived.

Both his dad and uncle died a decade before he was VP and the military has no record his uncle ever received one. The records are incomplete from back then.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-uncle-purple-heart/

[brush]

27. And not to mention Haley's recent and serious gaffes on the Civil War and racism in the nation.

[Voltaire2]

30. Not a gaffe.

She knew exactly what she intended to say and she said it. And after a non-apology apology, doubled down on the racist bullshit.
A gaffe is an unintentional blunder, not an intentional signaling.

[brush]

31. Saying American is not a racist country is a blunder no matter how you slice it...

Pandering to magats resulted in the unanticipated and tremendous amount of blow back she received.

That's undeniably a gaffe/blunder

Carry on.

[Polybius]

34. It's not a gaffe

It's either a horrible opinion (if she truly believes it) or a lie (if she doesn't). It wasn't said by mistake, as with gaffes.

[brush]

36. Your opinion. It was a blunder, gaffe, miscalculation...whatever you wanna call it.

She fucked up and it will cost her votes if by a very slight chance, she wins the republitcan nod...a very slight chance.

[Polybius]

37. The proper English meaning isn't an opinion

It was by no means a gaffe.

[brush]

38. Everyone else from pundits to MSM to others on DU are calling it a gaffe, but please proceed, governor. You do you.

[Polybius]

39. No one's calling it a gaffe but you n/t

[brush]

40. Heehee. I see you don't get out much.

[Polybius]

53. Every day

[RobinA]

45. Biden Has Been Considered

"gaffe prone" since back in the day. I've always liked Biden and felt that many of his "gaffes" were him accidently saying what was on his mind rather than censuring himself as one has to do in the "in front of the public" business. A gaffe to me is saying that Revolutionary soldiers were looking for airports. Or hot mike incidents.

[DemocraticPatriot]

46. Biden once referred to Trump as a 'human being'....

If THAT isn't a gaffe, I don't know what is!

[videohead5]

47. They make false claims

I saw a video of President Biden the other day just talking to some military officials before he got in the Presidential limo, and someone wrote that he looks like he does not know where he's at. They just make stuff up.

[senseandsensibility]

49. I figured that was it

they just go by visuals and smear him based on how he looks or whatever.

[Dirty Socialist]

52. Biden has looked disoriented a few times

Especially after making speeches

[Stinky The Clown]

54. Really?

I never noticed that.