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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm watching Gavin Newsom's interview with Bill Maher and
he's very good at talking about issues, even issues that perceptibly work against him. Not that this is the first time I've noticed, but it makes me think about him running for President, how he wouldn't win because he's too liberal and from a coastal state, and how he wouldn't appeal to "Middle America."
I'm watching him and it just makes me think he might be able to change some perceptions when he gets out in front of people if he hits the campaign trail for President.
He's an appealing person and he's smooth with his words. He's not afraid to be confronted with issues that he's, perceptibly, not strong with and talk about it without making it sound gaslighting and nagging.
spooky3
(34,498 posts)Better than we think with everyone but the hard core MAGAs.
In It to Win It
(8,296 posts)joshcryer
(62,277 posts)Yeah, he gives off such a Bill Clinton vibe in Bill's peak. Only far more liberal.
bamagal62
(3,272 posts)Is Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer.
ZonkerHarris
(24,264 posts)ZonkerHarris
(24,264 posts)bamagal62
(3,272 posts)It doesnt matter!
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 20, 2024, 04:25 PM - Edit history (2)
Coming up every week on Real Time with Bill Maher:
* Pot good.
* Religion bad.
* Wokeism worse.
* People are fat.
* Vaccines & doctors are stupid.
* Masks are dumb.
* Marriage is for fools.
* Kids suck.
* If its not about me, then I dont care.
* I havent changed, youve changed.
* I'm a real Lib in the old way.
* I grew up with father/mother, man/woman, perfect (MAGA).
* Have I told you my ABC network show, Politically Incorrect, was cancelled?
* Let's go to Vegas if you're a special guest.
ON EDIT: * (mocking/shaming/giggling) I accept Gays but it's all about anal repulsing me.
BootinUp
(47,201 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,642 posts)The final straw was when he had NYT writer Bari Weiss on his show and announced that "Covid is over, move on losers" as though they have any say at all. Bill was pissed off since the greedy ass couldn't do stand-up during Covid. Boo fucking hoo, Bill! He is not a liberal, he is a Libertarian and that sucks in my book.
"In January 2022, Weiss was criticized by a doctor appearing on CNN for her comments on the late night talk show Real Time with Bill Maher criticizing COVID-19 pandemic restrictions, citing that the COVID-19 pandemic response had resulted in mental health issues and that as a result she was "done with COVID".
Johnny2X2X
(19,193 posts)He throwing hateful transphobic comments in most shows about how children are being tricked into thinking theyre trans and woke doctors and parents are forcing them into treatments they always regret.
Hes sick.
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,193 posts)Theres a variety of views and opinions on things. I dont have to agree with everything anyone says. They can even be really wrong in some things and thats fine. But bigotry is something I will not support and hes crossed way into that the last couple years. He even went so far as to say trans supporters are grooming school children to be trans. It was disgusting and I havent watched him since d.
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)upbringing with parents who operated a sex shop was just foreign to him because his was totally like a 1950s t.v. family. He claimed that he and she have a friendship of years, but her body language bespoke total alienation from him - never confronting him verbally, just letting him dig himself deeper. At the 37:00 mark, "My parents were Liberal..."
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)Martin Eden
(12,880 posts)Protesting Israel's mass bombing of Palestinians in Gaza means siding with Hamas and supporting their Oct 7 atrocity.
Martin Eden
(12,880 posts)The only reason I watch him anymore is because my wife tunes in to his show.
The guests and panelists are sometimes worthwhile.
SocialDemocrat61
(682 posts)- Hunter Biden sucks and Joe is old (FAUX News talking points)
ZonkerHarris
(24,264 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)He seems pretty happy with his perch high above the common people
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. I wouldnt dream of betting against either of them.
Only advantage for Kamala might be if Biden decides to step aside during his 2nd term and Harris is running as President, otherwise theyre both excellent.
ZonkerHarris
(24,264 posts)Biden won but did not run right after serving. He waited a term.
Running right after serving never gives the people the change they want in the white house.
Sympthsical
(9,132 posts)And Maher replied, "You're good at this."
Which was exactly what I was thinking. The man is ridiculously good at answering policy questions. I was a little annoyed with Maher when he asked about housing regulations, because even I knew what the state had been doing, particularly with San Francisco, and it felt like Maher didn't. I would have forgiven Newsom for responding, "Did you not see us come in and kick the city's ass for dragging its feet?"
Similar with the Hollywood strike. Newsom's answer was exactly what I expected. I'm not even sure why Maher asked the question, because it just made it sound like he hadn't paid attention.
betsuni
(25,698 posts)to rural Californians when two-thirds of the state is very deeply red even though it's on the coast and not the heartland. The (since 2016 popular with not only the right-wing) "coastal elites" insult, that Democrats ignore working/middle classes and only care about wealthy donors. Still hear that today, it's not true and needs to stop.
Wounded Bear
(58,743 posts)and actually could be a model of how much better politics would look if we could overcome repub jerrymandering nationwide. Currently, red areas have far too much power and influence over our national politics.
brush
(53,925 posts)once the Biden presidency it over.
walkingman
(7,671 posts)oasis
(49,429 posts)against him if he ever gets the Dem nomination.
Guaranteed.
BigmanPigman
(51,642 posts)but for the life of me I can't understand what he saw in that monster.
AllBlue
(66 posts)She was from a more conservative family, but changed
from the pleasant big-eyed girl he married when she got
a gig a Fox in NYC, so I hear.
Polybius
(15,510 posts)Before all of the plastic surgery.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Gavin will be the leader in the resistance movement.
Quixote1818
(28,992 posts)Johonny
(20,913 posts)There is no doubt.
ificandream
(9,402 posts)And it's funny to think he was once married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, now Don Jr.'s ragdoll.
claudette
(3,606 posts)And think he would make a great President
Tommy Carcetti
(43,219 posts)His aura kind of comes off as a Generic Politician type, like basically a minor side character on a TV show or movie where they need some actor to play a President/Senator/Mayor whos part of the story but not the main character. Its weirdI dont know how to explain it.
But hey, he says most of the right things and I have no problem of him taking a shot in 2028. Although hes going to have to get past that whole liberal California politician which will be painted (unfairly) as a negative.
In It to Win It
(8,296 posts)But he's seemingly not afraid to dive into it and tackle that narrative head on. He seems willing to engage with people, go to town halls, and simply talk to voters about it. That's what makes me think "maybe he can change some minds about that perception", obviously not everyone (or even a majority) but just enough people. Maybe change some minds from "unlikely Newsom voters" to "Newsom curious."
calguy
(5,338 posts)He's ready for the national stage.
ancianita
(36,160 posts)Newsom's already had a SuperPAC for Biden (which I donated to) even before he hits the Biden campaign trail. His ads for Biden are on Facebook every single day.
We need Newsom to get out there and hit hard in the six battleground states.
diva77
(7,667 posts)zoning and environmental laws in communities that are already overbuilt. The local residents have no say in opposing the development and the required numbers for "affordable housing" units to be built are based on fabricated data. And the housing being forced on us is NOT affordable and is being built in high density, desirable tourist areas where resources such as fresh water are already in short supply.
He is not a good orator either. We need someone who is inspirational in 2028. There are plenty of other people who would make far better candidates then.