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kentuck

(111,233 posts)
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 01:38 PM Jan 2024

Is it time for a momentous and historical decision from the Supreme Court?

One would think the majority of them would see the threat to our democracy, from Trump and his supporters, and would rule to the letter of the Constitution.

But, will they?

Will they simply refuse to hear the "immunity" claim of Drumpf and send it back down to the Court for a jury verdict before any appeal?

Also, would they show the courage to go along with the Colorado Supreme Court decision that said Drumpf was disqualified from holding office and should not be on any ballot?

In my opinion, the latter is unlikely but the first is a possibility.

If that happened, it would give Drumpf the delay that he wants because he could still appeal after the verdict and the Supreme Court could hold it until after the election. Drumpf would get the delay he wanted, even if the jury found him guilty.

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Is it time for a momentous and historical decision from the Supreme Court? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2024 OP
they are certainly digging into the 14a case.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #1
The Colorado supreme court opinion and the decisions of the district court were appendices to the original cert petition onenote Jan 2024 #4
hmm it was reported that the requests went out.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #7
If SCOTUS Makes A Decision That Favors Tr**p - Are They...... global1 Jan 2024 #2
I truly don't understand how people... ret5hd Jan 2024 #3
Consider this possibility. onenote Jan 2024 #5
I think they will rule against immunity. kentuck Jan 2024 #6

getagrip_already

(15,320 posts)
1. they are certainly digging into the 14a case....
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jan 2024

They have already called up all the court records not only from the CO supreme court on their decision, but also from the state court issuing the original decision.

If they intend to look at a narrow slice of this case, or dodge it on a technicality, those moves don't indicate that. It appears they are digging into the heart of the rulings.

They can still go in any direction, and rule on any or none of the case itself. What they accepted was so vaguely defined it gives little clue what they will rule on. Until thet hold oral arguments, it will be largely guess work.

But, this is a play in many acts, and the curtain hasn't even gone up yet.

So we wait.

onenote

(43,224 posts)
4. The Colorado supreme court opinion and the decisions of the district court were appendices to the original cert petition
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jan 2024

There is nothing unusual about that nor does it suggest anything about what the Court might do.

If you're suggesting that the SCOTUS has requested copies of the underlying briefs and trial transcripts from the Colorado proceedings, there is nothing in the Supreme Court docket indicating that such a request has been made, which is a pretty good indication that no such request has been made.

getagrip_already

(15,320 posts)
7. hmm it was reported that the requests went out....
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jan 2024

by court watchers, so I ca't argue ether way. I'll defer to those i the know.

global1

(25,397 posts)
2. If SCOTUS Makes A Decision That Favors Tr**p - Are They......
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 02:08 PM
Jan 2024

signing their own death warrant? Will they become unimportant going forward?

ret5hd

(20,697 posts)
3. I truly don't understand how people...
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 02:20 PM
Jan 2024

CAN NOT understand/grasp/come-to-terms-with…that the right wing DOES NOT believe in/want democracy.

That includes the right wingers on the Supreme Court.

Democracy is the antithesis of what the right wing wants.

onenote

(43,224 posts)
5. Consider this possibility.
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jan 2024

I think the republican members of the Supreme Court, with the possible exception of Thomas and Alito, would rather Haley be the party's nominee than Trump. They can read the polls and they know that even if Trump might defeat Biden, Haley is a better bet to do so. So it's in their interest to undermine Trump's campaign by ruling against him on immunity and in favor of the Colorado Supreme Court, although I doubt they'll do the latter

kentuck

(111,233 posts)
6. I think they will rule against immunity.
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jan 2024

But if it goes back to the jury, Trump might not be found guilty. If he is, he can still appeal the verdict, is my understanding.

The Court could help him get his appeal beyond the election and if he won the general election, he would dispose of the case entirely.

And the Supreme Court could say they did their job.

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