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senseandsensibility

(19,445 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:13 PM Jan 2024

CNN's Paula Reid actually suggested

that the allegations that Fani Willis's relationship with another lawyer on the case may be cause for the entire case to be dismissed. She didn't say it was, but she suggested that it could be. She said that Fani Willis may have to resign.

I'll wait for the facts to emerge, but I know that if there is ANYTHING there Cheato and the corporate media will never let it go.

Depressing turn of events.

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CNN's Paula Reid actually suggested (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jan 2024 OP
That makes no sense to me. Qutzupalotl Jan 2024 #1
That was my initial reaction too senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #3
Thanks. The allegation seems to be Qutzupalotl Jan 2024 #11
"doesn't really have experience in this type of law" madamesilverspurs Jan 2024 #14
I really doubt that will happen. The charges are too serious. Greybnk48 Jan 2024 #2
Georgia prosecutors remain silent days after explosive allegations Celerity Jan 2024 #4
I'll wait to see how they respond senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #6
Even If That's True, It Doesn't Affect Trump In Any Way ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2024 #17
If there is NOTHING, they still won't let it go. rzemanfl Jan 2024 #5
Oh, I agree that if there is nothing senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #7
The divorce business is probably the source of this whole thing, one way or another. rzemanfl Jan 2024 #9
If this blows up, i swear to God bluestarone Jan 2024 #8
If true, it could cause some serious setbacks but I am sure there are other prosecutors able Bev54 Jan 2024 #10
I would not be surprised if Special Prosecutor resigns. Rightly or wrongly, it Silent Type Jan 2024 #12
Why would anyone blame her for what happens at a jail? ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #20
Resign for what OP? LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #13
Not sure how this would affect this case... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #15
Legally, This Makes No Sense ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2024 #16
Every so often, H2O Man Jan 2024 #18
Daily Beast Article saying "nbd" budkin Jan 2024 #19
It's a irrelevant smoke screen. Emile Jan 2024 #21

Qutzupalotl

(14,848 posts)
1. That makes no sense to me.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:17 PM
Jan 2024

Consenting adults can date anyone they want. This has nothing to do with the case. Just another attempt at distraction.

senseandsensibility

(19,445 posts)
3. That was my initial reaction too
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:20 PM
Jan 2024

I thought "so what" and even if one of them were married, Cheato should be the last one to throw stones. But apparently, the charge is that the male attorney was given his job as a favor and doesn't really have experience in this type of law. That was my understanding, but they'll have to have evidence.

Qutzupalotl

(14,848 posts)
11. Thanks. The allegation seems to be
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:38 PM
Jan 2024

that the lawyer was improperly hired. If so, and the lawyer is not up to the job, Willis would be hamstringing her own case. Wouldn't Trump like that? So I don't get his ostensible outrage.

If the allegation is that Willis broke up a marriage, that's salacious, but irrelevant to the case. If the lawyer was improperly paid, that too is a separate issue that can be adjudicated later.

I don't think any of this rises to the level of dismissing charges against Trump, much as he might wish it.

madamesilverspurs

(15,970 posts)
14. "doesn't really have experience in this type of law"
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jan 2024

That's pretty rich coming from the guy who hired "constitutional law expert" Jenna Ellis whose alma mater was quite surprised to learn of her alleged expertise.


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Greybnk48

(10,317 posts)
2. I really doubt that will happen. The charges are too serious.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:19 PM
Jan 2024

I'm sure I heard this discussion on MSNBC today and that was their assessment. I was listening but not watching, so I can't say who said this, but some legal expert I'm sure.

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
4. Georgia prosecutors remain silent days after explosive allegations
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:20 PM
Jan 2024
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has not responded to claims by a Trump co-defendant that she has had a romantic relationship with one of the case’s prosecutors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/12/fani-willis-nathan-wade-trump-georgia/

https://archive.is/wK229

ATLANTA — The Georgia judge overseeing the criminal election interference case against former president Donald Trump and allies said he planned to schedule a hearing next month on a motion seeking to disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis amid claims she had an improper personal relationship with a special prosecutor she appointed to the case. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said during a Friday hearing that he was first waiting to see a response from Willis to misconduct allegations leveled in a Monday court filing by Mike Roman, one of Trump’s remaining 14 co-defendants in the criminal case and a former high-ranking campaign aide during the 2020 election. So far, there has been none. Roman has moved to disqualify Willis and her office from the case, claiming Willis has been engaged in a “personal, romantic relationship” with Nathan Wade, whose firm has been paid more than $650,000 by the district attorney’s office since he was tapped as an outside prosecutor on the case in November 2021.

Willis has not publicly commented on the allegations, with a spokesman saying she will respond in a court filing. On Friday, McAfee asked Wade and other prosecutors in attendance, at a scheduled hearing on other matters in the case, if they wanted to respond to Roman’s motion. As the judge waited for an answer, Wade, the lead prosecutor, remained seated. A few seconds later, Daysha Young, an executive district attorney assigned to the case, rose to respond. “Not at this time, your honor,” Young said. The interaction came during a hearing on motions filed by Trump and other defendants in the case. But it marked the first public appearance by Wade and other members of the prosecution team amid a controversy that threatens to delay or even upend the high-profile racketeering case alleging Trump and his allies illegally conspired to overturn Trump’s 2020 election loss in Georgia.

Unlike other recent hearings in the case, Wade and prosecutors entered and exited from a back hallway into the courtroom on Friday, avoiding reporters. While Wade entered the courtroom with a smile, he avoided interacting with defense lawyers — out of the norm for a lead prosecutor who has been known to greet and shake hands with other lawyers in the highly charged case. He allowed other prosecutors to answer questions and make arguments — even at moments when he would usually do so. In Monday’s motion, Roman claimed Wade’s hiring was improper and unethical because of what, he claimed, was an ongoing personal relationship between Wade and Willis that predated Wade’s hiring as an outside prosecutor. The filing claimed Willis had benefited personally from Wade’s income from the case, alleging she had joined him on multiple cruises and other trips unrelated to work that Wade had paid for. Wade and Willis, Roman’s filing claimed, were “profiting significantly from this prosecution at the expense of the taxpayers.”

The filing provided no proof to back up those claims. Ashleigh Merchant, a prominent Cobb County defense attorney who represents Roman, later told The Washington Post that the claims were based on sources that she did not name as well as records she said had been disclosed as part of Wade’s ongoing divorce proceedings, which have turned contentious. On Monday, hours before Roman’s filing, Willis was subpoenaed to be deposed as a witness in Wade’s divorce case by Wade’s estranged wife, according to a court filing provided to The Post. It was not immediately clear why Wade’s wife was seeking to depose Willis, and an attorney for Joycelyn Mayfield Wade declined to comment on the subpoena. Wade has not responded to requests for comment. Scott Kimbrough, Wade’s divorce attorney since November, also declined to comment on the pending case when reached by telephone on Friday.

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senseandsensibility

(19,445 posts)
6. I'll wait to see how they respond
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:29 PM
Jan 2024

It does sound like they are going to try to insinuate that the male lawyer was given a cushy taxpayer funded gig without being experienced in this specific kind of law. Let them prove it.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,861 posts)
17. Even If That's True, It Doesn't Affect Trump In Any Way
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 12:22 AM
Jan 2024

First of all, lawyers with no experience get hired all the time. If they didn't, no one fresh out of law school would ever be hired. Second, even if it's true that his relationship with Fani Willis got him some benefit he shouldn't have gotten, that doesn't prejudice Trump's case. It's simply an internal matter to be handled within the Prosecutor's office. It doesn't mean that Fani Willis now has to dismiss every case she's ever worked on. Nothing improper was done with regard to the case against Trump, so there's no reason for the Judge to intervene and order ANYTHING.

If anything, you'd think Trump would WANT the people prosecuting him to be inexperienced and inept.

rzemanfl

(30,137 posts)
5. If there is NOTHING, they still won't let it go.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:24 PM
Jan 2024

Earth Two is a post-truth world. I don't care if she did the guy on her desk during her lunch hour. It has nothing to do with the case. Maybe you should switch to MSNBC.

rzemanfl

(30,137 posts)
9. The divorce business is probably the source of this whole thing, one way or another.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:34 PM
Jan 2024

If the story is true, the contentious divorce litigant needs to consider geese and golden eggs.

bluestarone

(17,842 posts)
8. If this blows up, i swear to God
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:33 PM
Jan 2024

The devil has control of this country. TFG just gets off too many fucking times!!

Bev54

(11,347 posts)
10. If true, it could cause some serious setbacks but I am sure there are other prosecutors able
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:36 PM
Jan 2024

to take over.

Silent Type

(5,421 posts)
12. I would not be surprised if Special Prosecutor resigns. Rightly or wrongly, it
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 09:42 PM
Jan 2024

appears the SP may have billed for working 24 hours a day on several occasions. I know it gets hectic at times and it’s hard to keep up with exact hours, but that just doesn’t look good to some people.

The amount of his two year billings — $670 K — does not seem excessive for attorneys in a case like this. But to average guy on the street, it’s a lot.

An article in the Atlanta Journal a day or two ago, mentioned some visits to Washington that got close to implying SP is too buddy, buddy with Democrats.

Willis is up for election this year. She beat the previous DA, who served 17 years, over sexual harassment allegations (worse than anything Willis may have done). And, she’s been criticized over deaths and other problems in Atlanta jail, although not sure how she’s connected or responsible.

If people get stirred up enough over cost of trial, length of trial, try to make a case that DA is spending millions needed elsewhere, that DA is not focusing on other matters, etc., things could get ugly.

Hope none of that happens.

But if the allegations are true about a romance, I think Willis made a mistake hiring the SP. Guarantee I wouldn’t hire an X (more out of fear for my life). At worse, Willis did nothing that millions of men haven’t done and got away with little criticism.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
20. Why would anyone blame her for what happens at a jail?
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 08:12 AM
Jan 2024

Prosecutors aren't in charge of jails. The party in charge is the local police or sheriff's department, depending on the facility. I think a few places might have an independent department of corrections to run local nicks, but that doesn't happen very often.

So it's stupid to lay the prison deaths at her feet.

Happy Hoosier

(8,065 posts)
15. Not sure how this would affect this case...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:26 PM
Jan 2024

There’s no conflict of interest, no alleged prosecutorial misconduct.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,861 posts)
16. Legally, This Makes No Sense
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 12:16 AM
Jan 2024

Attorneys are allowed to have relationships with other attorneys, even when they're working on the same case together. That's not a conflict. Ever heard of husband and wife attorney teams? It's common. The only time it would ever be a problem is if they were working on opposite sides of a case, or if their relationship somehow created a conflict of interest. Simply having a relationship with another attorney working on the same side of a case is not a conflict.

This looks like a big nothing to me.

H2O Man

(74,752 posts)
18. Every so often,
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 12:26 AM
Jan 2024

someone in Ms. Reid's position will say something with a goal of creating an emotional response that will result in the viewer staying tuned.

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