General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN's Paula Reid actually suggested
that the allegations that Fani Willis's relationship with another lawyer on the case may be cause for the entire case to be dismissed. She didn't say it was, but she suggested that it could be. She said that Fani Willis may have to resign.
I'll wait for the facts to emerge, but I know that if there is ANYTHING there Cheato and the corporate media will never let it go.
Depressing turn of events.
Qutzupalotl
(14,848 posts)Consenting adults can date anyone they want. This has nothing to do with the case. Just another attempt at distraction.
senseandsensibility
(19,445 posts)I thought "so what" and even if one of them were married, Cheato should be the last one to throw stones. But apparently, the charge is that the male attorney was given his job as a favor and doesn't really have experience in this type of law. That was my understanding, but they'll have to have evidence.
Qutzupalotl
(14,848 posts)that the lawyer was improperly hired. If so, and the lawyer is not up to the job, Willis would be hamstringing her own case. Wouldn't Trump like that? So I don't get his ostensible outrage.
If the allegation is that Willis broke up a marriage, that's salacious, but irrelevant to the case. If the lawyer was improperly paid, that too is a separate issue that can be adjudicated later.
I don't think any of this rises to the level of dismissing charges against Trump, much as he might wish it.
madamesilverspurs
(15,970 posts)That's pretty rich coming from the guy who hired "constitutional law expert" Jenna Ellis whose alma mater was quite surprised to learn of her alleged expertise.
.
Greybnk48
(10,317 posts)I'm sure I heard this discussion on MSNBC today and that was their assessment. I was listening but not watching, so I can't say who said this, but some legal expert I'm sure.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/12/fani-willis-nathan-wade-trump-georgia/
https://archive.is/wK229
ATLANTA The Georgia judge overseeing the criminal election interference case against former president Donald Trump and allies said he planned to schedule a hearing next month on a motion seeking to disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis amid claims she had an improper personal relationship with a special prosecutor she appointed to the case. Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said during a Friday hearing that he was first waiting to see a response from Willis to misconduct allegations leveled in a Monday court filing by Mike Roman, one of Trumps remaining 14 co-defendants in the criminal case and a former high-ranking campaign aide during the 2020 election. So far, there has been none. Roman has moved to disqualify Willis and her office from the case, claiming Willis has been engaged in a personal, romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, whose firm has been paid more than $650,000 by the district attorneys office since he was tapped as an outside prosecutor on the case in November 2021.
Willis has not publicly commented on the allegations, with a spokesman saying she will respond in a court filing. On Friday, McAfee asked Wade and other prosecutors in attendance, at a scheduled hearing on other matters in the case, if they wanted to respond to Romans motion. As the judge waited for an answer, Wade, the lead prosecutor, remained seated. A few seconds later, Daysha Young, an executive district attorney assigned to the case, rose to respond. Not at this time, your honor, Young said. The interaction came during a hearing on motions filed by Trump and other defendants in the case. But it marked the first public appearance by Wade and other members of the prosecution team amid a controversy that threatens to delay or even upend the high-profile racketeering case alleging Trump and his allies illegally conspired to overturn Trumps 2020 election loss in Georgia.
Unlike other recent hearings in the case, Wade and prosecutors entered and exited from a back hallway into the courtroom on Friday, avoiding reporters. While Wade entered the courtroom with a smile, he avoided interacting with defense lawyers out of the norm for a lead prosecutor who has been known to greet and shake hands with other lawyers in the highly charged case. He allowed other prosecutors to answer questions and make arguments even at moments when he would usually do so. In Mondays motion, Roman claimed Wades hiring was improper and unethical because of what, he claimed, was an ongoing personal relationship between Wade and Willis that predated Wades hiring as an outside prosecutor. The filing claimed Willis had benefited personally from Wades income from the case, alleging she had joined him on multiple cruises and other trips unrelated to work that Wade had paid for. Wade and Willis, Romans filing claimed, were profiting significantly from this prosecution at the expense of the taxpayers.
The filing provided no proof to back up those claims. Ashleigh Merchant, a prominent Cobb County defense attorney who represents Roman, later told The Washington Post that the claims were based on sources that she did not name as well as records she said had been disclosed as part of Wades ongoing divorce proceedings, which have turned contentious. On Monday, hours before Romans filing, Willis was subpoenaed to be deposed as a witness in Wades divorce case by Wades estranged wife, according to a court filing provided to The Post. It was not immediately clear why Wades wife was seeking to depose Willis, and an attorney for Joycelyn Mayfield Wade declined to comment on the subpoena. Wade has not responded to requests for comment. Scott Kimbrough, Wades divorce attorney since November, also declined to comment on the pending case when reached by telephone on Friday.
snip
senseandsensibility
(19,445 posts)It does sound like they are going to try to insinuate that the male lawyer was given a cushy taxpayer funded gig without being experienced in this specific kind of law. Let them prove it.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,861 posts)First of all, lawyers with no experience get hired all the time. If they didn't, no one fresh out of law school would ever be hired. Second, even if it's true that his relationship with Fani Willis got him some benefit he shouldn't have gotten, that doesn't prejudice Trump's case. It's simply an internal matter to be handled within the Prosecutor's office. It doesn't mean that Fani Willis now has to dismiss every case she's ever worked on. Nothing improper was done with regard to the case against Trump, so there's no reason for the Judge to intervene and order ANYTHING.
If anything, you'd think Trump would WANT the people prosecuting him to be inexperienced and inept.
rzemanfl
(30,137 posts)Earth Two is a post-truth world. I don't care if she did the guy on her desk during her lunch hour. It has nothing to do with the case. Maybe you should switch to MSNBC.
senseandsensibility
(19,445 posts)they won't drop it.
rzemanfl
(30,137 posts)If the story is true, the contentious divorce litigant needs to consider geese and golden eggs.
bluestarone
(17,842 posts)The devil has control of this country. TFG just gets off too many fucking times!!
Bev54
(11,347 posts)to take over.
Silent Type
(5,421 posts)appears the SP may have billed for working 24 hours a day on several occasions. I know it gets hectic at times and its hard to keep up with exact hours, but that just doesnt look good to some people.
The amount of his two year billings $670 K does not seem excessive for attorneys in a case like this. But to average guy on the street, its a lot.
An article in the Atlanta Journal a day or two ago, mentioned some visits to Washington that got close to implying SP is too buddy, buddy with Democrats.
Willis is up for election this year. She beat the previous DA, who served 17 years, over sexual harassment allegations (worse than anything Willis may have done). And, shes been criticized over deaths and other problems in Atlanta jail, although not sure how shes connected or responsible.
If people get stirred up enough over cost of trial, length of trial, try to make a case that DA is spending millions needed elsewhere, that DA is not focusing on other matters, etc., things could get ugly.
Hope none of that happens.
But if the allegations are true about a romance, I think Willis made a mistake hiring the SP. Guarantee I wouldnt hire an X (more out of fear for my life). At worse, Willis did nothing that millions of men havent done and got away with little criticism.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Prosecutors aren't in charge of jails. The party in charge is the local police or sheriff's department, depending on the facility. I think a few places might have an independent department of corrections to run local nicks, but that doesn't happen very often.
So it's stupid to lay the prison deaths at her feet.
LeftRightLeft
(23 posts)Was there a crime or any impropriety done here?
Happy Hoosier
(8,065 posts)Theres no conflict of interest, no alleged prosecutorial misconduct.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,861 posts)Attorneys are allowed to have relationships with other attorneys, even when they're working on the same case together. That's not a conflict. Ever heard of husband and wife attorney teams? It's common. The only time it would ever be a problem is if they were working on opposite sides of a case, or if their relationship somehow created a conflict of interest. Simply having a relationship with another attorney working on the same side of a case is not a conflict.
This looks like a big nothing to me.
H2O Man
(74,752 posts)someone in Ms. Reid's position will say something with a goal of creating an emotional response that will result in the viewer staying tuned.