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kentuck

(111,272 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:00 PM Jan 2024

Was January 6th the beginning of the Second Civil War?

They thought it would just go away. But three years later, it is still with us. I'm sure it was the argument that Trump made to Kevin McCarthy upon his journey to Mar-a-Lago. Just hang in there for two or three weeks and people will have forgotten about January 6th and will have moved on to another story.

What would a Second Civil War be about? At this stage, we would guess that it would be about preserving the Union once again. But, this time, it is about the fight for democracy over fascism. It seems to have progressed to that point.

We hear the leader of the Insurrectionists talk about Lincoln and the First Civil War. He believes he could have negotiated a settlement without going to war. He doesn't say what he would have done about the slavery issue? Further, he says Lincoln would have been just a passing name in history if he had done the job right.

Whether or not we are at the beginning of another Civil War, we do not know at this time. We only know that it is not going to disappear from history in its present context. Either the Truth or the Big Lie will prevail.

Hopefully, it can be resolved at the ballot box, without a violent war between the supporters of democracy and the supporters of fascism and victimhood.

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Was January 6th the beginning of the Second Civil War? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2024 OP
the amount of energy we could tap into lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #1
Herbert Hoover was a great man ITAL Jan 2024 #5
Instead of saying he could've negotiated it into the Civil War, why doesn't he negotiate an end to this one? Walleye Jan 2024 #2
He wants to negotiate criminal charges by threatening civil war Ponietz Jan 2024 #3
No. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #4
Calm down there, Sparky! PSPS Jan 2024 #6
No Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #7
The second Civil War started in the late 1800s and lasted until the Wonder Why Jan 2024 #8

lapfog_1

(29,314 posts)
1. the amount of energy we could tap into
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:04 PM
Jan 2024

from the 40 dead presidents spinning in their graves right now...

even Harding and Hoover are like "damn, seriously, this asshat?"

ITAL

(713 posts)
5. Herbert Hoover was a great man
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:24 PM
Jan 2024

Not a very good president, but his humanitarian efforts during and after both World Wars are seriously amazing. I knew a Belgian gentleman a few years ago and he ADORED Hoover. Said Hoover was basically the hero of all heroes over there. It's a shame Hoover became president because so few remember all the good he did when he wasn't.

Walleye

(31,616 posts)
2. Instead of saying he could've negotiated it into the Civil War, why doesn't he negotiate an end to this one?
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:04 PM
Jan 2024

He wouldn’t even have to negotiate, just get out, give a speech and call off his damn flying monkeys. They would listen to him

PSPS

(13,712 posts)
6. Calm down there, Sparky!
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:47 PM
Jan 2024

First, in loon MAGA circles, "civil war" is merely code for "race war." That isn't going to happen. Remember that most of these guys can hardly lift their whale-level girth up the stairs from their mother's basement without stopping to catch their breath. But they love to get wound up and spout off on their computers conveniently located in the basement.

Second, you're being sucked into the "outrage industry." CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

Wonder Why

(3,662 posts)
8. The second Civil War started in the late 1800s and lasted until the
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jan 2024

1954 Supreme Court ruling turned the fighting around.

This third Civil War started in 1916 when Trump made hate mainstream.

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