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marmar

(77,159 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 10:18 AM Dec 2023

Right-wing tantrum over Jill Biden Christmas video accidentally reveals how much MAGA hates America

Right-wing tantrum over Jill Biden Christmas video accidentally reveals how much MAGA hates America
When the "war on woke" is over, the only entertainment left for Trump cultists will be Dear Leader's speeches

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED DECEMBER 18, 2023 5:45AM (EST)


(Salon) Last week, First Lady Jill Biden, rejecting her predecessor's loathing of Christmas cheer, posted a sweet and silly video of the Dorrance Dance company performing a tap dance to a jazz reimagining of "Dance of the Floreadores" from "The Nutcracker Suite."

To normal people, the video was a bit of old-fashioned Christmas cheer in the great American tradition of musical extravaganzas like those of Busby Berkeley. To MAGA-Americans, however, it was a moral and aesthetic outrage that was going straight into their file labeled "Why Now Is The Time For American Fascism." Tellingly, despite the flood of angry comments, Republicans struggled to articulate exactly what they found so offensive. Vague terms like "weird," "grotesque and abhorrent," and "classless" accompanied odd accusations that the performance reminded them of "The Hunger Games." Chaya Raichik of Libs of TikTok whined that it "should’ve come with a sensitivity label." To her million-plus Twitter followers, right-wing influencer Brigitte Gabriel groused, "Children should not be watching this smut!"

....(snip)....

Well, MAGA has their reasons to beat around the bush, but that shouldn't stop the rest of us. Anyone with working knowledge of right-wing trigger points knows what fueled the outrage, and it's not just a general right-wing aversion to fun. It's plain bigotry. The first smiling face we see in the video is a Black woman. Throughout the video, many of the dancers read as people of color and queer people. Plus, the music is jazz, not classical. We are apparently at that point in fascist development where they reject syncopated rhythms as decadent and emasculating.

....(snip)....

Biden's haters dug up a statement of anti-racism from the troupe's leader, Michelle Dorrance, and held it out as some kind of gotcha. But they gotcha'd themselves, by dragging that subtext right into the daylight. Racism and homophobia are obviously what's fueling this tantrum. Getting outraged over an anti-racist statement is an unwitting admission of what they can't say out loud. (Well, most, anyway. There were a few MAGA types who flatly stated their objection: "This is gay as hell." ) All the coded language about "weird" and "classless" and "smut" was just a thin veil over the real grievance: The people MAGA hates were up in the White House having a good time. .................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2023/12/18/right-wing-tantrum-over-jill-biden-christmas-video-accidentally-reveals-how-much-maga-hates-america/




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Right-wing tantrum over Jill Biden Christmas video accidentally reveals how much MAGA hates America (Original Post) marmar Dec 2023 OP
That was fun to watch. The MAGA crowd hates even a black person being a visitor to the White House. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #1
MAGA is hate. speak easy Dec 2023 #30
While we're on the subject, The Nutcracker is gay as hell, anyway yardwork Dec 2023 #2
I was just thinking of that. I wonder what would happen if the White House had a produiction Maraya1969 Dec 2023 #34
It's just so interesting how many people accept things they're told to accept. yardwork Dec 2023 #37
They probably have never been to a contemporary ballet. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #53
It sounds wonderful! yardwork Dec 2023 #64
Don't see anything gay about this or the nutcracker whathehell Dec 2023 #45
And don't forget the dancing flowers! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #68
The MAGA reaction to that video is definitely about bigotry! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #70
Exactly! The dude dressed as a flower in the video is on point! yardwork Dec 2023 #71
Only a few years ago they loved weird, grotesque, abhorrent and classless. tanyev Dec 2023 #3
That display looks like somebody ate the brown acid from Woodstock Walleye Dec 2023 #5
lol What the heck is it? Cha Dec 2023 #54
That is almost exactly what Sen. Mike Lee said... sheshe2 Dec 2023 #55
Looks like the lair of Krampus John Shaft Dec 2023 #6
Let Us Prey NBachers Dec 2023 #48
"It is I, the Dark Lord, who owns you now. Bow before me! BWAaahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa!" NBachers Dec 2023 #47
I'm thinking of old Southerners like representative Virginia Foxx Walleye Dec 2023 #4
It would get a Black man lynched. John Shaft Dec 2023 #7
Look at what happened to Emmett Till for WHISTLING at a white woman! Wednesdays Dec 2023 #31
My maternal Grandmother, enigmania Dec 2023 #63
Yep, many of those people are still around. Seems like they are gaining followers Walleye Dec 2023 #66
moer like jealous . that vid was posted on here awahile back. aww poor things . AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #8
Black people and a guy with a big flower on his head! Dancing! To jazz! Ocelot II Dec 2023 #9
Yes absolutely Terrifying.. What will Cha Dec 2023 #56
IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!1! Emrys Dec 2023 #60
The Nazis outlawed jazz. mn9driver Dec 2023 #10
I don't really care, do you? onecaliberal Dec 2023 #11
It's wonderful! But I wish they had gone BIGGER... like an old Busby Berkley extravaganza number! * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #12
Are they upset about last nite's Hallmark Channel movie with two lesbian women that fall into love? LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #13
Whaaaaaat? Shipwack Dec 2023 #32
It's better than Melania's horrific and tasteless Tim Burtonesque shitshow * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #14
"Every time I look, those trees are getting closer!" NBachers Dec 2023 #50
Nicely done Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #15
Sad little people. But RW media companies and influencers like Raichik and Gabriel make a shit ton of money off of them. bluesbassman Dec 2023 #16
Well, they have somewhat of a point.. Goodheart Dec 2023 #17
Only to the uncultured. LOL. marmar Dec 2023 #19
That wasn't jazz (which is great) SCantiGOP Dec 2023 #20
I love tap! Mossfern Dec 2023 #29
Sorry, but... SCantiGOP Dec 2023 #44
You want jazz - I'll give you jazz. Hang on! flashman13 Dec 2023 #33
Jazz is one of the world's greatest art forms senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #43
No it doesn't Walleye Dec 2023 #67
Clearly... Tesha Dec 2023 #18
It's all about the hate Farmer-Rick Dec 2023 #21
These are the idiots who like Melania's decorations LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #22
They are so jealous that they don't have Butterflylady Dec 2023 #46
That's all Republicans know is to put down the United States. Emile Dec 2023 #23
Like bringing a little Broadway revival to the Whtie House. hlthe2b Dec 2023 #24
Merry Christmas... homegirl Dec 2023 #25
The original Nazis called it "Entartete Kunst" DBoon Dec 2023 #26
But this is heartwarming? Clip from the Ghost of Christmas past (youtube from 2017 in the white house) japple Dec 2023 #27
Video link from Daily Kos. (I don't do twitter) hunter Dec 2023 #28
THAT dance number is what has their knickers up in a twist? Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #35
There was at least 1 Democrat involved and therefore Repukes must roar. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #58
Thanks for the video! I refuse to do Twitter, too. The video was absolutely delightful and joyous and LaMouffette Dec 2023 #40
Thank you! I love it! Think how many times they had to repeat their numbers for the filming. Well done! NBachers Dec 2023 #52
The gullible bumpkins are kept in a state of perpetual outrage Mysterian Dec 2023 #36
_ LudwigPastorius Dec 2023 #38
Fabulous video. I loved it. oasis Dec 2023 #39
oh, dearie me! struggle4progress Dec 2023 #41
I enjoyed the performance EnergizedLib Dec 2023 #42
The Lincoln Project-What a difference a year makes LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #49
I found it a little weird RussBLib Dec 2023 #51
in what way? Celerity Dec 2023 #57
the music, for one RussBLib Dec 2023 #73
It IS weird - as is The Nutcracker story. yardwork Dec 2023 #65
Distracting the magas. Do not look at fascism, get outraged & defend white christianity Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #59
Magas just making up reasons to hate. ananda Dec 2023 #61
Jazz is America's greatest musical gift to the world Maeve Dec 2023 #62
magas just want to obstruct .... ificandream Dec 2023 #69
The MAGA reaction to this is definitely about bigotry! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #72

Lonestarblue

(10,265 posts)
1. That was fun to watch. The MAGA crowd hates even a black person being a visitor to the White House.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 10:30 AM
Dec 2023

They probably also remember that no reputable performers would perform at his inauguration or at any event at the White House during his term, so they have to trash anyone who now performs for the Bidens.

yardwork

(61,859 posts)
2. While we're on the subject, The Nutcracker is gay as hell, anyway
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 10:34 AM
Dec 2023

It's a weird, campy story about a creepy uncle, a little girl in the clutches of marching mice armed with bayonets, and fairies.

Maraya1969

(22,542 posts)
34. I was just thinking of that. I wonder what would happen if the White House had a produiction
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:56 PM
Dec 2023

of The Nutcracker and didn't name it? Would we get the same shit about gayness from dingbats that don't know it is a classic?

yardwork

(61,859 posts)
37. It's just so interesting how many people accept things they're told to accept.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 01:04 PM
Dec 2023

And reject things they're told to reject.

All those commenters talking about gay, and smut, and "this isn't for children" but they take their little kids to see the Nutcracker every year without question.

sheshe2

(84,173 posts)
53. They probably have never been to a contemporary ballet.
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 01:52 AM
Dec 2023

I saw La Mer last year.

In a new piece led by artist and choreographer NANINE LINNING, Boston Ballet sheds light on the importance of ocean preservation. Together, with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI), we believe that the creative drive inherent in both the arts and sciences to learn more about the world around us can be the basis for positive change worldwide. The goal of the ballet is to inspire curiosity about our shared ocean planet and to raise hope for a sustainable future for all.


Introducing WHOI
BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN SCIENCE AND CREATIVE PROCESSES

Boston Ballet and WOODS HOLE OCEANOGRAPHIC INSTITUTION (WHOI) have joined forces to collaborate on Nanine Linning’s upcoming world premiere, La Mer, a contemporary ballet that explores the nature of threats facing the ocean, as well as the potential in the ocean to create solutions to our most challenging environmental and societal problems.

https://www.bostonballet.org/behind-the-scenes-of-la-mer/

If you get the chance, see it.

I agree 100% with your post.

whathehell

(29,131 posts)
45. Don't see anything gay about this or the nutcracker
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 07:44 PM
Dec 2023

My gaydar may be off, but I'd guess the magats are mostly put off by the racial composition.
They need to be roundly and soundly IGNORED.

ShazzieB

(16,734 posts)
68. And don't forget the dancing flowers!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:11 AM
Dec 2023

I never thought of the Nutcracker that way before, but that is so true!

ShazzieB

(16,734 posts)
70. The MAGA reaction to that video is definitely about bigotry!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:16 AM
Dec 2023

That, and the fact that those people have a extremely low tolerance for anything that is the tiniest bit nontraditional or unconventional.

P.S. I never heard of that Swing Kids movie before, but now I definitely want to check it out!

EDIT: I meant to post this as a direct reply to the o.p. Not sure how it ended up here, lol. Since it already got a reply, I'll leave this here but also add it to the bottom of the thread.

yardwork

(61,859 posts)
71. Exactly! The dude dressed as a flower in the video is on point!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:17 AM
Dec 2023

I think it's hilarious that MAGAs are freaking out about this campy video that perfectly captures the Nutcracker ethos.

sheshe2

(84,173 posts)
55. That is almost exactly what Sen. Mike Lee said...
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 02:02 AM
Dec 2023

About Jill Biden's Nutcracker.

Sen Mike Lee said he never did acid in his life...but if he did Flotus's christmas is what it would look like.


For some reason he has been all over Twitter lately. He must be the new MAGA spokesperson.

NBachers

(17,221 posts)
47. "It is I, the Dark Lord, who owns you now. Bow before me! BWAaahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa!"
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 01:12 AM
Dec 2023

Walleye

(31,236 posts)
4. I'm thinking of old Southerners like representative Virginia Foxx
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 10:45 AM
Dec 2023

I’m sure she remembers a time when black boys weren’t in allowed to dance with white girls. It was considered against God’s will in the south

Wednesdays

(17,564 posts)
31. Look at what happened to Emmett Till for WHISTLING at a white woman!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:40 PM
Dec 2023

And it's unclear whether he even did THAT much.

enigmania

(118 posts)
63. My maternal Grandmother,
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 10:04 AM
Dec 2023

born in Darlington County, SC in 1903, would grow apoplectic at the mere thought of a mixed-race couple.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,969 posts)
12. It's wonderful! But I wish they had gone BIGGER... like an old Busby Berkley extravaganza number! *
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:12 AM
Dec 2023

* complete with overhead cameras that reveal intricate human geometric patterns (like a kaleidoscope of synchronized movements coming together to form various snowflake shapes) and fountains, and balloons, bubbles, and confetti... lots of bubbles and confetti.

Shipwack

(2,195 posts)
32. Whaaaaaat?
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:42 PM
Dec 2023

It's been a few years since I've watched a Hallmark movie, but my SO at the time devoured a couple a day, and I was with her for most of them.

I only saw one person of color, and she was a minor character. No one even mentioned the word "gay".

Not surprised it was two women breaking the ice; it usually is. Bi men bring up the rear (no pun intended!). I think the only time I've seen a bisexual male was one of the characters on the TV show "The Great Indoors". It was only brought up once in a bit, and was surprisingly respectful (though funny).

?si=h5b8qNOTsZMtuYtZ

Prairie Gates

(1,174 posts)
15. Nicely done
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:17 AM
Dec 2023

"We are apparently at that point in fascist development where they reject syncopated rhythms as decadent and emasculating."



That's a good line. They're coming for abstract art next!

bluesbassman

(19,389 posts)
16. Sad little people. But RW media companies and influencers like Raichik and Gabriel make a shit ton of money off of them.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:21 AM
Dec 2023

Fanning the flames with subtle, not so subtle, and outright racist and bigoted tropes is good for business, and business is a boomin'!

SCantiGOP

(13,881 posts)
20. That wasn't jazz (which is great)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:39 AM
Dec 2023

That was (gasp) tap, which does pretty well
suck.
Overall, not an issue of great import unless - as the OP points out - you are driven to panic by the sight of black or gay people.

Mossfern

(2,619 posts)
29. I love tap!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:34 PM
Dec 2023

My dad danced for Gus Edwards Kids in Vaudeville when he was a child.
He taught us all the time step. Buck and wing was a bit more difficult.

SCantiGOP

(13,881 posts)
44. Sorry, but...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:29 PM
Dec 2023

I’m sure your Dad was talented, but I spent too many agonizing hours sitting on metal gym seats watching 4, 6 or 10 year olds tapping on a plywood floor while I am thinking, “Was this worth $200?”

senseandsensibility

(17,307 posts)
43. Jazz is one of the world's greatest art forms
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 04:01 PM
Dec 2023

brought to us largely, along with the blues, by African Americans. I really enjoyed your clip, and thanks for posting, but I get the feeling that MAGATS wouldn't object to it. The reason is probably clear.

Tesha

(20,862 posts)
18. Clearly...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:34 AM
Dec 2023

They haven't seen the Nutcracker
They didn't watch it and formed their opinion by just absorbing other's opinions
They have to find stuff to stir up hate to keep people on edge

Clearly this is just another of moment of the right-wing's outrage machine at work

Farmer-Rick

(10,267 posts)
21. It's all about the hate
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:41 AM
Dec 2023

Instead of seeing a great, fun way to show off the required over the top Christmas decorations at the White House, they see people they hate having a wonderful time. It galls them......good.

It sure beats creepy shadowy trees with posed little white girls in tutus acting as human decoration.

Butterflylady

(3,570 posts)
46. They are so jealous that they don't have
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 08:28 PM
Dec 2023

Anyone as lovely, gracious and talented as Dr. Jill Biden. All they have is Creulla D'vil.

hlthe2b

(102,660 posts)
24. Like bringing a little Broadway revival to the Whtie House.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:49 AM
Dec 2023

I refuse to allow these assholes criticizing for the sake of criticizing to spoil it.

homegirl

(1,440 posts)
25. Merry Christmas...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:50 AM
Dec 2023

Watched it last week, great dancers and production. Brought back images of Fred & Ginger and Shirley Temple on the silver screen.

DBoon

(22,457 posts)
26. The original Nazis called it "Entartete Kunst"
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:54 AM
Dec 2023

Today's American Nazis couldn't pronounce that.

Degenerate art (German: Entartete Kunst) was a term adopted in the 1920s by the Nazi Party in Germany to describe modern art. During the dictatorship of Adolf Hitler, German modernist art, including many works of internationally renowned artists, was removed from state-owned museums and banned in Nazi Germany on the grounds that such art was an "insult to German feeling", un-German, Freemasonic, Jewish, or Communist in nature. Those identified as degenerate artists were subjected to sanctions that included being dismissed from teaching positions, being forbidden to exhibit or to sell their art, and in some cases being forbidden to produce art.
...
While modern styles of art were prohibited, the Nazis promoted paintings and sculptures that were traditional in manner and that exalted the "blood and soil" values of racial purity, militarism, and obedience. Similar restrictions were placed upon music, which was expected to be tonal and free of any jazz influences; disapproved music was termed degenerate music. Films and plays were also censored.[


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_arthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

japple

(9,870 posts)
27. But this is heartwarming? Clip from the Ghost of Christmas past (youtube from 2017 in the white house)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:01 PM
Dec 2023
?si=O_wg7kV9Vvr23SN6

hunter

(38,370 posts)
28. Video link from Daily Kos. (I don't do twitter)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:26 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Mon Dec 18, 2023, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)



If you search for the video you'll have to wade through a deluge of Nazi outrage.


Diamond_Dog

(32,287 posts)
35. THAT dance number is what has their knickers up in a twist?
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:59 PM
Dec 2023

I thought it was upbeat, campy, and fun.

LaMouffette

(2,044 posts)
40. Thanks for the video! I refuse to do Twitter, too. The video was absolutely delightful and joyous and
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:09 PM
Dec 2023

inclusive and humorous and fun—in other words, all the things the MAGA Repubes hate!

Plus, TAP DANCING!!! Which I adore!

NBachers

(17,221 posts)
52. Thank you! I love it! Think how many times they had to repeat their numbers for the filming. Well done!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 01:31 AM
Dec 2023

Mysterian

(4,618 posts)
36. The gullible bumpkins are kept in a state of perpetual outrage
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 01:04 PM
Dec 2023

by their beloved Fox "News" and other fascist outlets. It's amazing they don't fall over dead from being so unhappy.

EnergizedLib

(1,912 posts)
42. I enjoyed the performance
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 03:02 PM
Dec 2023

Meanwhile, allow me to dissect this complaints for you.

See, there are black people, especially black women, at the White House, and we know a black family in the White House from 2009-2017 was too much for a lot of people.

Therefore, the sight of black people in the White House trigger MAGAts.

RussBLib

(9,073 posts)
73. the music, for one
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:41 PM
Dec 2023

...I grew up listening to the Nutcracker Suite on my little turntable that played 78rpm's, and I heard maybe a couple of distant connections to that music. Just seemed disjointed to me. And the tap dancing seemed rather unremarkable, especially when they were dancing in some room with carpet. And the guy playing air guitar, when there were no noticeable guitars in the music. Odd. And the ending was rather abrupt.

It was quite removed from the somber tones of Trump's WH, but a bit too far in the opposite direction perhaps. Suffice to say I would never pay to see a tap-dancing troupe. Just not my thing.

Just a great big "meh" for me, but it was, at least, better than what we got during the dark ages of the Trump term.

yardwork

(61,859 posts)
65. It IS weird - as is The Nutcracker story.
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
Dec 2023

It's perfectly in line with the story itself, which is quite weird.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,144 posts)
59. Distracting the magas. Do not look at fascism, get outraged & defend white christianity
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 06:15 AM
Dec 2023

Do not look at the walking sphincter losing court battle after court battle day after day.

Manufacture some maga outrage so they will consume his hitleresque statements as defence of christianity, their white imitation of christianity

Maeve

(42,335 posts)
62. Jazz is America's greatest musical gift to the world
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 09:33 AM
Dec 2023

Which is why the Nazis hated it--too non-European for their delicate white ears...(ok, too black!)

And the name came from the Irish word for "heat" (most likely origin; thru the fantastic mix of cultures that was turn of the 20th century New Orleans, but that's a whole 'nother story)

ificandream

(9,458 posts)
69. magas just want to obstruct ....
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:15 AM
Dec 2023

... and then complain that Dems get nothing done. It's just a silly game.

ShazzieB

(16,734 posts)
72. The MAGA reaction to this is definitely about bigotry!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:28 AM
Dec 2023

That, and the fact that those people have a extremely low tolerance for anything that is the tiniest bit nontraditional or unconventional.

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