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Donkees

(31,681 posts)
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 04:21 PM Dec 2023

Photos: We are Jewish elders, bubbies, tetas, grandmothers chaining ourselves to the White House gates





We are Jewish elders, bubbies, tetas, and grandmothers chaining ourselves to the White House, demanding the US stop funding and arming genocide against Palestinians. @POTUS, ceasefire NOW. This is not complicated. Never again means never again for anyone.

Jewish Elders for Palestinian Freedom
@JewishElders


Hours before the annual White House Hanukkah party, 18 Jewish elders chain themselves to the White House gates demanding
@POTUS stop funding and arming the genocide in Gaza.

Jewish Voice for Peace
@jvplive
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Photos: We are Jewish elders, bubbies, tetas, grandmothers chaining ourselves to the White House gates (Original Post) Donkees Dec 2023 OP
Good for them. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #1
US Park Police eventually took the women away after using a bolt cutter to cut the chains Donkees Dec 2023 #2
K& R malaise Dec 2023 #11
I guess the poor dears got lost TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #3
I hardly think the "poor dears" got lost democrank Dec 2023 #4
There must be some confusion then. I thought they wanted a ceasefire TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #6
Did they really break the ceasefires first? EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #5
Yes. We wouldn't be having this conversation if not for the barbaric attack on a music festival TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #7
vs. over 13,000 dead. Hardly sounds like balanced response. TeamProg Dec 2023 #15
Sure do. I don't see the threat has been removed TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #19
Balanced is removing the threat. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #23
That is a pretty corrupted view of history, there's a LOT more to it. You might look into it. TeamProg Dec 2023 #16
Which part do you dispute? TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #22
You'll see! And Sooner vs. Later! Abolishinist Dec 2023 #29
How condescending. redqueen Dec 2023 #8
The aren't "poor dears". They have skin in the game. Meanwhile that's a pretty broad brush Autumn Dec 2023 #9
Whoa! That is some statement! Mmmm, what about respecting our elders? Do you really think that TeamProg Dec 2023 #14
Why are you calling them "poor dears"? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #17
They seem kindly but befuddled. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #20
"Never again means never again for anyone." I'm befuddled that anyone with any humanity can find Autumn Dec 2023 #21
This is a disgusting ageist and misogynistic comment. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #25
Jesus how patronizing you are. choie Dec 2023 #32
Condescending much? whathehell Dec 2023 #18
Age does not always impart wisdom. tritsofme Dec 2023 #10
It sure as hell doesn't. But I tend to give credence to those elders that have skin in the game Autumn Dec 2023 #13
Those of us born of the peace movements are right there with them. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #12
Why is there so much ageism and misogyny on this thread? N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #24
I think because we are talking about Palestine and Israel, a topic where common sense and a realistic discussion..... EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #26
It appears that you summed it up well. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #27
Why is there so much ageism and misogyny on this thread? Abolishinist Dec 2023 #31
IMO, any agism and misogyny is far too much. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #33
"People reading this thread will recognize what I am saying." Abolishinist Dec 2023 #34
I am not sure what your problem is. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #35
I have no doubt that you feel that way! Abolishinist Dec 2023 #36
Gosh, I would think you had better things to do, Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #38
Asking you to defend your position is being "snarky" ? Abolishinist Dec 2023 #40
By the way, I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Abolishinist Dec 2023 #41
More Here: Alent2 Dec 2023 #28
K&R n/t AntiFascist Dec 2023 #30
... roamer65 Dec 2023 #37
--- Alent2 Dec 2023 #42
So sad. Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #39

Lonestarblue

(10,503 posts)
1. Good for them.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 04:32 PM
Dec 2023

Biden may be risking his re-election to aid a corrupt Netanyahu. The US veto of a ceasefire called by the UN was just wrong. The death toll of Palestinians is now over 18,000. Tomorrow it will be 20,000 and the days after will add more thousands. Netanyahu is making good on his promise to rid Palestine of all Palestinians and fulfill the Likud Party dream of no Palestinians left in the whole territory.

Donkees

(31,681 posts)
2. US Park Police eventually took the women away after using a bolt cutter to cut the chains
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 04:33 PM
Dec 2023
Officers from US Park Police eventually took the women away after using a bolt cutter to cut the chains that encircled their waists. Organisers said they deliberately picked Monday – the day of the White House’s Hanukkah celebration – to protest.

“We, as elder Jews, we know what genocide looks like. We know what genocide feels like. It’s in our bodies, in our bones,” said Esther Farmer of Jewish Voice for Peace, which organised the demonstration.

“It’s horrifying, it’s devastating. Sometimes it’s hard to get up in the morning to see this, and it’s being done in the name of Jews. So we are here – as elderly Jews – to say, ‘Not in our name’.”




https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/12/11/israel-hamas-war-live-who-decries-catastrophic-situation-in-gaza


TheKentuckian

(25,132 posts)
3. I guess the poor dears got lost
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 04:34 PM
Dec 2023

They can chain themselves to Qatar's embassy and plead for Hamas to give up the hostages if any live, lay down their arms, and face justice.

It isn't that far.

2555 M Street, DC, 20037.

They attacked and they are the ones who broke two ceasefires.

Good luck.

democrank

(11,122 posts)
4. I hardly think the "poor dears" got lost
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 05:14 PM
Dec 2023

Perhaps they don’t support terrorism no matter where they see it.

TheKentuckian

(25,132 posts)
6. There must be some confusion then. I thought they wanted a ceasefire
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 05:59 PM
Dec 2023

if that is the case they would need to prevail on those that will not adhere to them.

TheKentuckian

(25,132 posts)
7. Yes. We wouldn't be having this conversation if not for the barbaric attack on a music festival
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 06:29 PM
Dec 2023

savagely murdering over 1,200 and taking another 250 or so hostage.

Then they refused to continue to release any more hostages as agreed and starting lobbing missiles again.

This was like 10 days back.

The pro terrorism/Death to Israel/destruction of western civilization brigade calls this peace and hand waives the rest.

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
15. vs. over 13,000 dead. Hardly sounds like balanced response.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 07:11 PM
Dec 2023

You disagree I suppose.

The U.N. and the International Criminal Court in The Hague will be the judge.







TheKentuckian

(25,132 posts)
19. Sure do. I don't see the threat has been removed
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 07:46 PM
Dec 2023

that is the target not notches on a bed post in a game of tit for tat.

TheKentuckian

(25,132 posts)
23. Balanced is removing the threat.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 10:49 PM
Dec 2023

Anything else is a fool's errand.

The concept that if a force is using human shields that you just have to surrender or suck it up is insane.

Autumn

(45,147 posts)
9. The aren't "poor dears". They have skin in the game. Meanwhile that's a pretty broad brush
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 06:36 PM
Dec 2023

from an arm chair warrior. Hamas will do nothing for no one, not even the people that they govern thanks to Netanyahu. Biden however might decide it's more important that he be re elected than stick up for Donald Trumps soul mate.

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
14. Whoa! That is some statement! Mmmm, what about respecting our elders? Do you really think that
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 07:04 PM
Dec 2023

they have NO CLUE?!?!?!

Autumn

(45,147 posts)
21. "Never again means never again for anyone." I'm befuddled that anyone with any humanity can find
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 08:16 PM
Dec 2023

fault with any Jewish woman who speaks those words.

Big Blue Marble

(5,175 posts)
25. This is a disgusting ageist and misogynistic comment.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 11:14 PM
Dec 2023

This women are brave. I am grateful for their courage.

choie

(4,126 posts)
32. Jesus how patronizing you are.
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 12:34 AM
Dec 2023

They probably have more wisdom than most on this site. I’m waiting for you to call them self hating Jews.

Autumn

(45,147 posts)
13. It sure as hell doesn't. But I tend to give credence to those elders that have skin in the game
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 06:47 PM
Dec 2023

rather than those who talk a game.

EarnestPutz

(2,232 posts)
26. I think because we are talking about Palestine and Israel, a topic where common sense and a realistic discussion.....
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 11:23 PM
Dec 2023

.....seem to impossible to have.

Big Blue Marble

(5,175 posts)
27. It appears that you summed it up well.
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 11:39 PM
Dec 2023

Why are these ageist and misogynistic comments allowed on DU? These women should
be heralded, not denigrated.

Abolishinist

(1,401 posts)
31. Why is there so much ageism and misogyny on this thread?
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 12:27 AM
Dec 2023

So much? Really? So much?

If I am to assume you're referring to the remarks from one poster, and I don't want to get you in trouble for naming names, please tell the viewers how many others, in total, are exhibiting "ageism and misogyny" on this thread.

Thanks in advance!

Abolishinist

(1,401 posts)
34. "People reading this thread will recognize what I am saying."
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 12:49 AM
Dec 2023

Well that would be much appreciated, as you haven't done much anything to defend your accusation.

People reading, please speak up!

Abolishinist

(1,401 posts)
36. I have no doubt that you feel that way!
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 01:12 AM
Dec 2023

a) An article about a group of Jewish elders et al, chaining themselves to the White House, demanding the US stop funding and arming genocide against Palestinians, is posted by Poster #1.

b) Poster #2 states that they disagree with the position of Poster #1.

c) Therefore, according to Poster #1, poster #2 is guilty of ageism and misogyny!

Logic and reason can be your friend!?

Abolishinist

(1,401 posts)
40. Asking you to defend your position is being "snarky" ?
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 01:44 AM
Dec 2023

Wowser. Again,

a) An article about a group of Jewish elders et al, chaining themselves to the White House, demanding the US stop funding and arming genocide against Palestinians, is posted by Poster #1.

b) Poster #2 states that they disagree with the position of Poster #1.

c) Therefore, according to Poster #1, poster #2 is guilty of ageism and misogyny

What, exactly, do you disagree with?

Abolishinist

(1,401 posts)
41. By the way, I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 01:56 AM
Dec 2023

During the course of our one-sided "conversation", several TV ads prompted us to give $500 to Save the Children, and another $500 to No Kid Hungry.

 

Alent2

(41 posts)
28. More Here:
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 11:45 PM
Dec 2023
Chained to White House Fence, Jewish Elders Chant 'Cease-Fire Not Genocide'

A group of Jewish elders chained themselves to the fence in front of the White House on Monday to demand that President Joe Biden end his opposition to a permanent cease-fire in the Gaza Strip, where virtually the entire population is going without adequate food, clean water, and proper medical treatment as Israel's assault continues with no end in sight.

"Biden, Biden, pick a side, cease-fire not genocide!" chanted the demonstrators, who wore shirts that read "Not in Our Name." Eighteen women took part in the civil disobedience, which came hours before the White House's annual Hanukkah Party.

"Don't let them tell you it's complicated," said Karen Ackerman, former political director of the AFL-CIO and a participant in Monday's protest. "Palestinians are being slaughtered. Not just by bombs—also by starvation. It has never been more important that we act."

As they were chained to the White House fence, the elders read aloud the names of Palestinians who have been killed by Israeli forces since October, starting with 93-year-old Mahdiya Abdullah Abdul Wahab Halawa. "My family survived the Holocaust, so I know the price of silence," said Deb Kaplan, a reproductive justice and maternal child health advocate. "I refuse to be silent now."


https://www.commondreams.org/news/chained-to-white-house-fence-jewish-elders-chant-cease-fire-not-genocide


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