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spanone

(135,833 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:01 PM Dec 2023

Trump's Expert Witness Says He Was Paid $877,500 for the case.

NYU accounting professor Eli Bartov testified yesterday as Donald Trump's hired expert witness that he did not believe that Trump committed fraud when he filed financial disclosures in connections with his applications for bank loans. We learned today on cross-examination that Trump paid him $877,500 for his work and testimony on the case.

Bartov testified that he was paid $1,350 an hour and worked a total of 650 hours on the case.

In his testimony yesterday, Bartov claimed that someone valuing their apartment at three times market value because the square footage was tripled was "not that unusual." He also compared Trump's disclaimer clauses on his statement as akin to the Surgeon General's warnings that smoking causes cancer.

What Trump has mostly touted about Bartov's testimony was that he said he saw "no evidence of accounting fraud" in the documents, but he was not permitted to give his opinion on Trump's intent when he inflated the values on some of his properties.

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trumps-expert-witness-says-he-was-paid-877500-for-the-case

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Trump's Expert Witness Says He Was Paid $877,500 for the case. (Original Post) spanone Dec 2023 OP
Hell, I would've said "I see no evidence of accounting fraud" for *half* that! Buns_of_Fire Dec 2023 #1
Wow! Nice work if you can get it. brush Dec 2023 #2
650 hours for one person is 16 weeks underpants Dec 2023 #3
and since he is a full-time research and teaching professor at NYU, that spooky3 Dec 2023 #22
The judge has already ruled that he committed fraud Walleye Dec 2023 #4
Bartov, another of Trump's stenographers, agingdem Dec 2023 #11
Minor correction: "willing to prostitute themselves in the service of traitortrump". Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #28
Thank you...I stand corrected... agingdem Dec 2023 #29
Glad you took that in the spirit intended. :D Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #31
and there is no jury to be swayed. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #15
Agreed. The sole purpose of this hearing is to determine damages. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2023 #32
I think he's so stupid he didn't realize the judge would make the decision. I think he still doesn't believe it Walleye Dec 2023 #33
Didn't the cigarette companies edhopper Dec 2023 #5
If he was such an expert why did it take just over 81 days? LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #6
Will he be paid extra after his testimony? LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #7
My opinion Timewas Dec 2023 #8
Whatever part of that he did not get up-front, he will not get at all. Chainfire Dec 2023 #9
What kind of an attorney would discuss his MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #10
Aren't they required to answer the question? Nt spooky3 Dec 2023 #18
He's not an attorney dpibel Dec 2023 #26
Ha malaise Dec 2023 #12
The financial cheif the company served time for tax fraud Johonny Dec 2023 #13
Beat Me To It! ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #24
ppl tell the truth for free. liars get the big bucks. mopinko Dec 2023 #14
Nice Work If You Can Get It struggle4progress Dec 2023 #16
A perfectly sane testimony and payment Blue Owl Dec 2023 #17
NYU NowISeetheLight Dec 2023 #19
makes you wonder if all of his publications were free from fraud, doesn't it? nt spooky3 Dec 2023 #23
Greed and corruption gone wild!!! moondust Dec 2023 #20
This is more than many TFG attorneys have been paid LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #21
Wow! ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #25
Donald J Trump is a lifelong continuous bowel movement. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2023 #27
Hah! There went the "testimony"! - not a wise investment! UTUSN Dec 2023 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #34

Buns_of_Fire

(17,177 posts)
1. Hell, I would've said "I see no evidence of accounting fraud" for *half* that!
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:14 PM
Dec 2023

Because the fraud apparently wasn't in the accounting (which was, I believe, done by an outside firm anyway) -- it was in the valuations that were given to them.

brush

(53,778 posts)
2. Wow! Nice work if you can get it.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:21 PM
Dec 2023

At least somebody got paid by trump. And it's backfiring on him. He should've paid for better lawyers. but I'm glad he didn't.

But he'd still eventually be found guilty on some of the 91 felony charges against him, even with good lawyers.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
22. and since he is a full-time research and teaching professor at NYU, that
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:46 PM
Dec 2023

means he likely spread those hours (if he actually worked them) over many more weeks.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
11. Bartov, another of Trump's stenographers,
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 01:32 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Mon Dec 11, 2023, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)

was paid a shit-ton of money to counter Judge Engoron's already established fraud decision...

Eli Barton now joins a long list of supposed professionals, doctors, lawyers, accountants, more than willing to prostitute themselves in the name of Trump...

32. Agreed. The sole purpose of this hearing is to determine damages.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 07:33 PM
Dec 2023

Whether or not T***p committed fraud has been determined. The only issue now is damages. TFG can pay $300,000 to get someone to give his opinion there wasn't fraud, but the only thing the judge cares about is how much the property was worth at the time of the loan application was submitted or the taxes were paid.

T. is upset that he didn't get to do his song and dance in front of a jury, so he's resorted to having his minions threaten the judge's law clerk to get his way. Typical mob boss behavior.

Walleye

(31,024 posts)
33. I think he's so stupid he didn't realize the judge would make the decision. I think he still doesn't believe it
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 08:10 PM
Dec 2023

dpibel

(2,831 posts)
26. He's not an attorney
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 06:15 PM
Dec 2023

He's an expert witness.

Absolutely standard for opposition to ask experts how much they've been paid.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
13. The financial cheif the company served time for tax fraud
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 02:00 PM
Dec 2023

But he found nothing unusual about their books. Extordinary.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
24. Beat Me To It!
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:51 PM
Dec 2023

I'd say this guy isn't much of an expert.
The fact that fraud was committed has been proven TWICE!
But, he saw nothing irregular?

moondust

(19,981 posts)
20. Greed and corruption gone wild!!!
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 03:59 PM
Dec 2023

I'd be curious to know the average net worth of everyone serving a substantial prison sentence in the U.S. Could they not afford any "experts" to tip the scales for them?

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
25. Wow!
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 05:54 PM
Dec 2023

I've been an expert witness 8 times. I only got paid 5 times, and nothing close to this number per hour. (And, I never spent anywhere close to 600+ hours on a case.)
I wonder how typical it is for an expert witness to get paid at this level.
Or is the fee commiserate with a guarantee of favorable testimony.

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