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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger says 'If Trump is nominated, I'll vote for Biden'
Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger describes himself as politically "homeless," at odds with a party he views as "anti-constitutionalist." He believes former President Donald Trump will be the 2024 Republican nominee and if that's the case, Kinzinger intends to vote for President Biden.
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"I don't even have to hesitate. Do I agree with everything Joe Biden's doing? No, of course not. He's a Democrat. I'm an old-school Republican, I'll say. But I believe he's a good man, and I believe he's focused on the Constitution. I believe he's not looking for reasons to violate the Constitution like Donald Trump is. I wouldn't hesitate at all," he said.
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TSExile
(3,223 posts)History will be kind to him and Liz Cheney, of that I am sure.
Walleye
(32,746 posts)The party has treated him so shabbily and shown them selves to be unable to govern
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Kinzinger said he still considers himself a Republican but only at the margins.
"The only reason I'm not giving up the title is I refuse to let the anti-constitutionalist side win," Kinzinger said. "Every democracy in my mind needs a liberal or a progressive movement and a conservative movement because that tug and pull that push and pull - is what actually makes a country advance at the right speed not always perfectly. I'll continue to fight for the GOP but that doesn't mean I'm voting GOP. I'm not because they're an anti-constitutionalist party at the moment."
Warpy
(112,248 posts)through most of our history and it's worked out as both sides were capable of reasoning and cooperating.
Then fucking Reagan brought in the fundagelicals. They are incapable of reason or compromise because god.
I'm hoping the repeal of Roe does to the GOP what passing desperately needed civil rights legislation did to us, that they're mostly out of power for the next 55 years or so, long enough to restore balance in the economy and undo the other evils perpetrated by Nixon and Reagan.
Time from some justice.
erronis
(15,994 posts)"god" doesn't enter into their calculations.
Polybius
(16,540 posts)Why wouldn't he? He may not be a fascist, but he's a Republican.
WarGamer
(13,492 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,458 posts)GOOD FOR HIM!!!!
2naSalit
(89,230 posts)At some point. Glad he's telling the world and in a way that might encourage others.
bucolic_frolic
(44,771 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)thinking the GOP has good intentions for the economy, jobs, and workers. They don't. They are all about power and greed. Nothing else.
ProfessorGAC
(66,955 posts)He still believes the malarkey about low tax & minimal regulation.
He still believes his side is stronger on defense.
It's only slightly social issues with him.
He toed the R line on those things, but he didn't campaign on it.
I live in what used to be his district, so we got all the mailers every other October.
I've met with him a few times. I completely disagree with him on nearly everything, but he's not a frothing mess.
He still thinks low taxes are the answer to everything, though.
Yavin4
(35,589 posts)Because Trump will be nominated by the Republicans.
LiberalFighter
(52,727 posts)The more people that voted for Trump last time and vote for Biden in 2024 will be huge. Each person creates a two vote margin between Biden and Trump.
If they voted last time and don't this time it will be a one vote difference.
Either way Biden wins.
dutch777
(3,217 posts)They miss the key point that in a two party democracy, sometimes you must vote what is best for the country, of the options available . And Biden may not be perfect, but he is not evil even if you don't agree with all his approaches and policies. Trump is pure evil.
LiberalFighter
(52,727 posts)Especially if they voted for Trump last time.
TSExile
(3,223 posts)Praise be to God that they never got into cable news (mostly local news, plus half an hour of Lester Holt or David Muir, and that's it). In 2020, my dad put a T**** sign in our yard. If I had the guts then that I have now, I would have gotten a Biden/Harris sign to put right next to it so people would know we were a bipartisan household.
Mom says she will never vote for T**** again but she says she will stay at home rather than vote for a Democrat. Dad probably will, though he says about 1/6, "I wish T**** had never done it." There you have it.
dutch777
(3,217 posts)ShazzieB
(17,277 posts)"Trump is pure evil."
It's not a matter of simply disagreeing on some issues. Trump absolutely is pure evil, and that is what makes him so scary.
Some DUers talk about Republicans as if all of them are evil, but I dont agree. Yes, I think they are wrong about a lot of stuff, but wrong doesn't automatically mean evil, especially not the way TFG is evil. Yes, some Republicans are terrible, but I believe there are Republicans who genuinely care about this country, about the rule of law, and about protecting our Constitution and our system of government. Liz Cheney, whose book I'm currently reading, is one of those Republicans, and Adam Kinzinger is another.
Liz and Adam are not the only Republicans who oppose Trump, either. They're exceptional because they have taken a public stand against him and were willing to sacrifice their political careers to do so, and for that they have my respect and even my admiration. But they are not the only ones who agree with us that Trump should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office again. I am more than willing to declare a temporary truce while we all work to rid the country of the orange menace.
Johonny
(21,431 posts)But dont fear ending the USA are essentially over. The last light of the old party have been purged from congress. The new GOP is a cult that seems quite happy to impose a vague Christian theocracy and have simply no interest in governance of that theocracy other than to steer US wealth into their own pockets. I dont see the GOP as a political option any American can embrace anymore.
FakeNoose
(34,021 posts)I believe a lot of Repukes out there are thinking the same thing. Maybe they won't decide to vote for Biden, maybe they'll just abstain from voting at all....
I know that Chump - or any other Repuke candidate for that matter - will fall short next year. Chump will receive way fewer votes in 2024 than 2020 or 2016.
Another prediction: if Repukes decide to use the mailed ballot next year, it will result in more votes for Biden and fewer for Chump.
erronis
(15,994 posts)There's got to be these guidances in Roger Stone's (Putin's) playbook.
Anyone have copies of old KGB/FSB/GRU manuals?
Ponietz
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Escurumbele
(3,498 posts)the GOP nominee is. All the candidates for the GOP nomination are, not only crazy, but lack principles and morals, none of them are fit for the office of the president, and he knows that.
They are all catering to the republicans mindless base, it is disgusting and embarrassing.