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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Dec 2023 OP
Huh? malaise Dec 2023 #1
I'd say this is good news NJCher Dec 2023 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #3
yikes NJCher Dec 2023 #4
Polls rso Dec 2023 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #6
Polls rso Dec 2023 #10
You're right Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #22
Yep. And with trump's legal problems and women still upset over him bragging... brush Dec 2023 #27
Another newbie posting a "we're doomed" poll. shrike3 Dec 2023 #7
Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #8
Ticket for one? Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #11
I love how Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #12
Someone fearless showed up? I didn't notice. shrike3 Dec 2023 #15
You obviously have spent little to no time at all on DU. shrike3 Dec 2023 #14
Nailed the last poll with 0% error AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #13
Indeed it is. shrike3 Dec 2023 #17
Polls rso Dec 2023 #18
You cant compare a "last poll" and one a year out getagrip_already Dec 2023 #16
I have a hard time believing that independents edhopper Dec 2023 #19
So you're comparing last polls taken before an election senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #20
Apples to Oranges Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #21
Good for f**king them. For something to be really of an impact, it needs to be timely, not 1 year out. SWBTATTReg Dec 2023 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #24
Check out "Not Sure" dpibel Dec 2023 #25
Welcome to DU - Mostly. GoneOffShore Dec 2023 #26
Did they nail it a year out? Sneederbunk Dec 2023 #28
Interesting source dpibel Dec 2023 #29
This is an online poll... maptap22 Dec 2023 #30

malaise

(268,911 posts)
1. Huh?
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:16 PM
Dec 2023

That is all

NJCher

(35,650 posts)
2. I'd say this is good news
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:21 PM
Dec 2023

Esp. since West and RFK Jr are factored in.

Response to NJCher (Reply #2)

NJCher

(35,650 posts)
4. yikes
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:25 PM
Dec 2023

I did indeed mis-read this.

rso

(2,271 posts)
5. Polls
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:28 PM
Dec 2023

Swing State polls would be far more pertinent than national polls.

Response to rso (Reply #5)

rso

(2,271 posts)
10. Polls
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:41 PM
Dec 2023

Actually, the swing state polls have been mixed.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,570 posts)
22. You're right
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:17 PM
Dec 2023

Any polls taken now have absolutely zero predictive value for next November.

Go back and look at the polls for Obama in fall 2011; he was losing to Rand Paul, Newt Gingrich, and Herman Cain.

brush

(53,764 posts)
27. Yep. And with trump's legal problems and women still upset over him bragging...
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:25 PM
Dec 2023

about finally getting rid of Roe v Wade, these results can go right into the round file.

shrike3

(3,570 posts)
7. Another newbie posting a "we're doomed" poll.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:32 PM
Dec 2023

Response to shrike3 (Reply #7)

Prairie Gates

(991 posts)
9. Ticket for one?
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:37 PM
Dec 2023

Response to Prairie Gates (Reply #9)

Prairie Gates

(991 posts)
12. I love how
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:43 PM
Dec 2023

you're so brave, but also unorthodox, clear-sighted, and fearless.



Who's ignoring? I bought the ticket and I'm taking the ride, my dear.

shrike3

(3,570 posts)
15. Someone fearless showed up? I didn't notice.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:50 PM
Dec 2023

Everything s/he said has been brought up on DU, many times, in fact. And will be brought up again. You're new yourself, so maybe you didn't notice. Or maybe you're just here to eat popcorn.

Meanwhile, I'll be on the lookout for someone really fearless.

shrike3

(3,570 posts)
14. You obviously have spent little to no time at all on DU.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:48 PM
Dec 2023

Every one of your "points" has already been discussed, in great detail, in many other discussions. Try again.

Surprised you didn't mention the economy. That's usually a go-to. But I get that young voters and the plight of Palestinians is the new thing that's supposed to bring Biden down.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,005 posts)
13. Nailed the last poll with 0% error
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:46 PM
Dec 2023
2020:
Last poll: Biden +4
Result: Biden +2


Math is hard.

shrike3

(3,570 posts)
17. Indeed it is.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:52 PM
Dec 2023

rso

(2,271 posts)
18. Polls
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:56 PM
Dec 2023

Not only that, but dems have been winning or over performing in elections since 2018, just last month proving polls wrong in several states. I’d rather win elections than do well in polls one year out, but that’s me. With this said, this poll, like all the others, should be taken into consideration by dem strategists to chart and fine-tune dem strategy going forward.

getagrip_already

(14,702 posts)
16. You cant compare a "last poll" and one a year out
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 03:51 PM
Dec 2023

They simply don't relate.

All pollsters, even the crappy ones, will bring their poll results within the margin of error for their last polls. Watch, the polls will tighten as the election draws to a close. Happens every cycle, and the polls always end up being right at the last poll within their margin of error.

That way they can point back snd say they were right.

Go back and try again. This dog doesn't hunt. It's asleep on the porch.

edhopper

(33,564 posts)
19. I have a hard time believing that independents
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:04 PM
Dec 2023

who went for Biden by 10% will now go to Trump by 13%.

senseandsensibility

(16,995 posts)
20. So you're comparing last polls taken before an election
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:10 PM
Dec 2023

with polls taken a year out?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,570 posts)
21. Apples to Oranges
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:15 PM
Dec 2023

Why would you compare their last polls before the 2016 and 2020 elections, with one 11 months away?

You’re new here, please don’t mistake us for a bunch of hysterical, easily manipulated rubes.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
23. Good for f**king them. For something to be really of an impact, it needs to be timely, not 1 year out.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:20 PM
Dec 2023

These polls and those that publish them I think have some ulterior motives involved. Why else would they publish something so far out, and what is their purpose in doing this? The only thing I can think of is that they want to dampen a candidate's supporters.

Added: And remember what all of the naysayers were saying, that the democrats were going to lose seats in Congress galore, and doomsday was upon us. Nothing of the sort happened.

And FYI, I never do polls, since they're subject to manipulation so much.

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dpibel

(2,831 posts)
25. Check out "Not Sure"
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:22 PM
Dec 2023

On the "Overall" bar, check what percentage respond "not sure."

See if you can tell how that number relates to the Trump/Biden spread.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
26. Welcome to DU - Mostly.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:23 PM
Dec 2023

What do you want on your pizza?

Sneederbunk

(14,289 posts)
28. Did they nail it a year out?
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:26 PM
Dec 2023

dpibel

(2,831 posts)
29. Interesting source
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:27 PM
Dec 2023

When you click on the link you've provided, the first thing you see is a popup that includes the following totally nonhysterical language

Using these vague “policy violations,” Google is now threatening to demonetize us. It’s part of Big Tech’s effort to silence conservative voices.


Or how about the first sentence in their donations pitch?

Help us fight for honesty in journalism and against the tyranny of the left.


As they say: Welcome to DU!

maptap22

(67 posts)
30. This is an online poll...
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 04:28 PM
Dec 2023

Online polls are garbage in my opinion.

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