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Voltaire2

(14,752 posts)
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 11:55 AM Dec 2023

Newsom camp: Hannity, DeSantis cheated. They dispute the charges.


Thursday’s raucous debate is giving way to bitter disappointment with and outright hostility toward Fox News and its host from the California Democrat’s camp.

Before Ron DeSantis could unveil his “poop map,” Gov. Gavin Newsom team’s frustration with Sean Hannity and his crew centered on his promises to them that he would be a fair moderator, only to repeatedly sandbag the governor and give the entire affair a 2-on-1 dynamic — as they saw it.

“The debate was rigged, and Newsom still won,” Newsom adviser Sean Clegg said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/01/newsom-desanitis-debate-cheating-00129555

Why do our politicians continue to make this idiotic mistake?
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Midnight Writer

(23,026 posts)
6. If Newsome thought Hannity and DeSantis were going to give him an honest debate platform,
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 12:21 PM
Dec 2023

then I question his judgement.

Democrats can't "out stunt" Republicans, any more than they can trust them to be fair.

mopinko

(71,875 posts)
7. if i were newsom, even if i didnt think that, i'd say it.
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 12:29 PM
Dec 2023

cuz if it quacks like a duck, it’s fair game to point out it shits like a duck.

Qutzupalotl

(15,158 posts)
11. Newsom was able to temporarily bypass the Fox filter
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 01:33 PM
Dec 2023

and explain Democratic positions in a reasonable manner. It might have been the first time a majority of their audience heard a non-cartoonish version of Biden's policies. I hope he opened a few eyes.

You're right that DeSantis and Newsom are not competitors this cycle, but Newsom is one of the best debaters we have, and DeSantis is terrible and unlikeable.

John1956PA

(3,395 posts)
9. In 2004, 43 wore an earpiece in the debate with John Kerry.
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 12:32 PM
Dec 2023

I tuned in to a bit of Hannity's radio show the next day. Hannity sort of rubbed the cheating into the Dems' faces. He cackled that 43 won the debate, but "he needs a haircut." The real story is that 43 grew his hair longer going into the debate in order to conceal evidence of the earpiece.

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