Palestinian Authority denies Hamas music festival massacre

[DavidDvorkin]

The Palestinian Authority denied in an official statement on Sunday that Hamas terrorists carried out the massacre at the Nova music festival near Kibbutz Re’im on October 7. The statement, sent to foreign ministries worldwide and the UN, claimed that "Israeli helicopters" caused the deaths of at least 350 participants at the party. Hamas joined in a statement as well, saying that an "Israeli fighter jet" bombed the area near the Gaza border, leading to the deaths of hundreds.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1nngcpnp

[mcar]

1. Palestinian Authority equals Hamas

How long are people going to support these terrorists?

[DavidDvorkin]

7. Why, until Palestine is free from the river to the sea, of course!

[David__77]

9. That's who Biden wants to take over Gaza and West Bank and East Jerusalem.

[Beastly Boy]

23. And therein lies the dilemma, doesn't it?

[tritsofme]

31. They might get a few neighborhoods in Eastern Jerusalem as part of an eventual final settlement.

But Israel will remain a Jewish state, with Jerusalem as her undivided and eternal capital.

[David__77]

32. A two state solution likely isn't viable anyway.

[Sal_NV]

2. This could have been written by one of D. Trump's speech writers.

It sounds almost word for word what D. Trump has been doing, deny any wrong doing and blame everyone else.

[Kennah]

13. That is eery

[Ford_Prefect]

19. If you consider just how much of his dogma comes straight from the FSB.

[enid602]

28. Insane

I think they forgot we have the whole incident on video, and have witnesses to what happened.

[superpatriotman]

3. Read this lie:

...“Following this event, the 'Hannibal Protocol' was activated, allowing the occupation’s police and military to kill everyone. Therefore, the ministry believes that the revelations of this investigation cast doubt on the Israeli reports regarding the destruction and killings that occurred in the area," the statement added...

The smooth-brained will believe this made-up shit.

[sarisataka]

4. I knew all those videos

and eye witness accounts were sketchy. I'm glad the PA is finally letting us know what really happened.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

5. This is sickening, and too many people are going to believe these lies n/t

[David__77]

6. Sounds like they should take it up with Haaretz.

[Freethinker65]

8. Really really stupid.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. I want to believe that the PA is being held hostage by Hamas.

This statement is ridiculous on its face.

[Igel]

29. In a sense they are.

The PA, like all political bodies, are held hostage by their populace. The PA isn't sufficiently repressive to dictate the populace's views.

Hamas may be, but the PA senses that killing Jews to avenge Palestinian honor and religion (call it what you will) has wide support. They know that what happened is sketchily "Islamic." To justify it causes anal pain, to reject it causes anal pain.

So there's an alt interpretation, courtesy of Hezbollah. "It's all false flag!"

The redoubt of the redoubtful.

[Richard D]

11. So many . . .

. . . seemingly ordinary people, already believe that the IDF carried out the slaughter and that Hamas wear the halos of freedom fighters.

[JustAnotherGen]

12. This does nothing

But confirm that even the PLO is in on the Hamas Propaganda. I don't believe a single word coming out of the mouths of the Palestinian leadership.

They are gas lighting liars.

[Behind the Aegis]

21. Exactly right!

It is amazing who and, less so, why, people are spewing the propaganda of Hamas, but there it is.

(On a personal note) I am sorry I didn't respond to your post the other day, I got really distracted (PT, pets, you name it), but husband and I are taking precautions to the rising anti-Semitism and (now, again) homophobia. I meant to reach out to you the other day to express my sympathy and anger in regard to the poster attacking Jeffries and the fact that posters here were trying to justify that shit. Talk about gaslighting!

BTW, if you have Netflix, watch "Rustin". It was VERY good!

[Cha]

22. Rec Exactly.. It proves that NOTHING

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comes from Gaza is Real.

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[AZSkiffyGeek]

14. I'm waiting for confirmation

From the local sea lions and useful idiots…

[TheProle]

15. Is this the "revitalized Palestinian Authority"

The President referred to yesterday?

https://apnews.com/article/biden-revitalized-palestinian-authority-israel-hamas-war-bf8defe81079d6e6371f228157f9be10

[marybourg]

16. And this is supposed to be Israel's partner in peace-making.

And if peace isn’t made, of course it will be Israel’s fault. (needed, unfortunately)

[DavidDvorkin]

17. Indeed.

[0rganism]

18. they do know there were surviving witnesses, right?

I don't see how this stupid lie makes its way past midfield. OTOH, it's probably not for consumption by any but the terrorist true believers. Seems antithetical to gaining global credibility, but perhaps the PA just doesn't care about that anymore, if they ever did. Bad for everyone if that's the case...

[SunSeeker]

20. The PA's idiotic move plays right into Netanyahu's hands. Bye bye 2 state solution!

What country in its right mind would want these reality denying hateful nutjobs in charge next door?

Oh, BTW, Palestinian Authority, if you don't believe Hamas committed the October 7 atrocities, and think all the videos of dead babies in their cribs are deep fakes, ask Hamas. They proudly took credit for it and promised to do it again, and again. https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html

Fucking idiots.

[Maru Kitteh]

40. Maybe not idiotic if they never wanted 2 states to begin with, which they seemingly do not.

I think their actions show what they want.

[SunSeeker]

44. True. But PA/Hamas' fever dreams of a Palestine "from the river to the sea" is idiotic.

And genocidal.

[DavidDvorkin]

24. Let's not forget the head of the PA blaming the Jews for the Holocaust

In a speech last month to senior members of his Fatah movement, Abbas said that Adolf Hitler killed European Jews not because of antisemitism, but because of their “social functions” in society, such as money lending.

“These people were fought because of their social function related to money, usury,” Abbas said in the speech. “From Hitler’s point of view, they were sabotaging, and therefore he hated them.”

https://apnews.com/article/palestinians-israel-holocaust-abbas-antisemitism-1d84b3a82f0d8ff3fd8601f06bc1176e

[LexVegas]

25. Surprised this wasn't posted as anti Israel propaganda. nt

[Cha]

27. Further IDF Vid of Hamas w/Hostages & Stolen Vehicles

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[intheflow]

30. I just want to note: the overwhelmingly disproportionate retaliation

by the Israeli government allowed this lie to bloom. No one denied it was Hamas when it happened, including the Palestinian Authority. With little/no infrastructure left, this lie will blossom via oral retellings by Palestinians who no longer have reliable access to global news networks, who have lost their homes as well as multiple friends and families, who are rife with trauma and prime targets for propaganda. Latest casualty estimates say 10-14k Palestinians have been killed in the last seven weeks. Compare that to Ukraine, at war now for just shy of two years, with an estimated 30k killed. That's 30k killed in 21 months juxtaposed against 12k in 1.5 months.

[yagotme]

34. I believe the "blooming lie" would have taken place irregardless of what Israel did. ny

[LexVegas]

36. Israels fault. There it is. nt

[intheflow]

38. So you believe Israel's response is helping the situtatino?

[LexVegas]

39. Its not helping the cause of spreading Hamas propaganda, no. nt

[intheflow]

43. Not spreading propaganda.

Palestinian Authority condemns Hamas attack: https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-15-23/h_2d24edd7bb9d823840329113a304a166 (Oct. 15)

Current Palestinian death estimate: https://wapo.st/47BiVHA (gift article, 18th paragraph)
Also at this link: 1,200 Israeli deaths on Oct. 7th vs. 11,000 in seven weeks.

That is a disproportionate response. Netanyahu's literally killed 100 times more Palestinians than Israel suffered in the terrorist attack. This in turn makes Israel MORE of a target as most of the rest of the world views that kind of OTT response as genocidal.

Stating facts doesn't make me an anti-Semite.

[SunSeeker]

45. "Disproportionate response" is an opinion, not a fact.

Even if we accepted Hamas' 11k death estimates (the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry claimed this 11k number), which WaPo and other media outlets often repeat without noting those numbers are unconfirmed, what those numbers mean is not a disproportionate response, but rather the devastating effects of Hamas using civilizations as human shields.

[tritsofme]

41. Right right, those JOOOOZ made them lie.

Makes sense.

[intheflow]

42. Not what I said.

But I guess if you can't tell the difference between the Jewish people and Netanyahu's government, it's easy to misunderstand my meaning. Try understanding the difference between culture, ethnicity, and political power. It's hard, but you can still try.

[Liberal In Texas]

33. Don't believe your lying eyes.

All that video of terrorists chasing and gunning down the music festival patrons is actually an Israeli plane bombing them. Uh huh.

[Paidon]

35. It took them a while to come up with this one

Nice hoax.

[pinkstarburst]

37. And they are really trying, in the next breath

to suggest a two state solution is viable and that they are sane leaders who could be in charge of the new Palestinian state? Statements like this only sadly reinforce that there may never be peace in this region for these two peoples. I don't know what this means for the people currently living in Gaza. I truly don't. Brainwashed.