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Fact. If you are delivering hell on earth to another country you are a bad entity. (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2023 OP
Remember the Bush gang and 2003. raccoon Nov 2023 #1
Hmmm? ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #2
There seems to be something wrong with your monitor, ProfessorGAC. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #6
I'll Look Into It ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #8
I think a better comparison is Vietnam Redleg Nov 2023 #12
Vietnam? ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #15
You think WWII is more apt an analogy? Redleg Nov 2023 #17
Sorry, That Makes No Sense ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #18
Not sorry Redleg Nov 2023 #19
Technically its an opinion Takealeft Nov 2023 #3
The US delivered hell to various countries during WWII. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #4
And, I guess that one unpunished crime excuses another 80 years later. Chainfire Nov 2023 #10
Considering that war is hell, I guess no country is a good entity... NutmegYankee Nov 2023 #5
I am reminded of this quote KarenS Nov 2023 #7
I recall the last sentence of that quote but not the first Redleg Nov 2023 #11
Yoda in Star Wars said something similar to the second sentence KarenS Nov 2023 #13
That's a good one! Gave me a good chuckle! Redleg Nov 2023 #14
In this current situation of two wars jimfields33 Nov 2023 #9
Yeah, no NickB79 Nov 2023 #16
I disagree. nt yagotme Nov 2023 #20
The war is being waged against an entire population. David__77 Nov 2023 #21
Are you saying Isreal is a "bad entity"? ismnotwasm Nov 2023 #22

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,337 posts)
6. There seems to be something wrong with your monitor, ProfessorGAC.
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 07:17 AM
Nov 2023

It is allowing you to see things in shades of gray, rather than presenting them to you only in black or white, which is necessary for delivering sweeping pronouncements at DU.

And good morning.

ProfessorGAC

(63,746 posts)
15. Vietnam?
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 10:54 AM
Nov 2023

I don't see the relationship.
The US was a foreign invader. We didn't really belong there. Neither did the Soviets, but that makes both countries interlopers in someone else's country.
Israel actually belongs there by international agreement 75 years ago.
All that said, I still question the absolutism of the OP.

Redleg

(5,656 posts)
17. You think WWII is more apt an analogy?
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 12:47 PM
Nov 2023

I am referring to the nature of Israel's current operations in Gaza not the legitimacy of their operations. Hamas is not like Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. It's a terrorist organization that has a base of support within Gaza and a good deal of political sway in Gaza. Unlike Germany and Japan it cannot carry out sustained high-intensity military operations outside the borders of Gaza. Neither could the Vietcong. That is why Hamas engages in low-intensity targeted attacks, like the Oct. 7 attack. It simply does not pose the same level of threat to Israel that the Germans posed to their neighbors in the late 1930s and early 1940s. This is not to say that Israel shouldn't be fighting this fight. They have a just cause for attacking Hamas.

I think that comparison to WWII are not very helpful unless a person wants to justify "nuking" Gaza.

ProfessorGAC

(63,746 posts)
18. Sorry, That Makes No Sense
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 02:04 PM
Nov 2023

And since you jumped right to putting words in my mouth with "nuking", this conversation is over.

NutmegYankee

(16,154 posts)
5. Considering that war is hell, I guess no country is a good entity...
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 07:11 AM
Nov 2023

And if no one is good, does good versus bad even have meaning in that circumstance?

KarenS

(3,927 posts)
7. I am reminded of this quote
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 07:23 AM
Nov 2023

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." attributed to Nietzsche

Redleg

(5,656 posts)
11. I recall the last sentence of that quote but not the first
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 09:13 AM
Nov 2023

I have always appreciated it and don't remember where I read it. I used to struggle through some of Nietzshe's better-known books back before I started grad school and had to turn my attention to my own discipline. Now I read historical fiction to pass the time.

KarenS

(3,927 posts)
13. Yoda in Star Wars said something similar to the second sentence
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 09:27 AM
Nov 2023

“When you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back.” – Yoda

Redleg

(5,656 posts)
14. That's a good one! Gave me a good chuckle!
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 09:45 AM
Nov 2023

In these days I will take a laugh where I can get it. Thanks.

jimfields33

(15,103 posts)
9. In this current situation of two wars
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 08:30 AM
Nov 2023

Only Russia and humas are evil and doing wrong. The Ukrainians and Israeli’s are doing very good defending themselves.

NickB79

(18,983 posts)
16. Yeah, no
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:15 AM
Nov 2023

My grandfather personally helped bring hell on Earth to the Germans in 1943-44.

He has his faults, like all of us, and suffered the PTSD from it for the rest of his life, but was most definitely a good entity in my eyes for what he did then.

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