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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFact. If you are delivering hell on earth to another country you are a bad entity.
It is that simple.
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raccoon
(31,267 posts)ProfessorGAC
(66,955 posts)I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on how the Allies handled Germany 1942-1945.
mahatmakanejeeves
(58,893 posts)It is allowing you to see things in shades of gray, rather than presenting them to you only in black or white, which is necessary for delivering sweeping pronouncements at DU.
And good morning.
ProfessorGAC
(66,955 posts)Who knew? I didn't even ask for special hardware.
Good morning to you, too.
Redleg
(5,881 posts)and it's not perfectly analogous either.
ProfessorGAC
(66,955 posts)I don't see the relationship.
The US was a foreign invader. We didn't really belong there. Neither did the Soviets, but that makes both countries interlopers in someone else's country.
Israel actually belongs there by international agreement 75 years ago.
All that said, I still question the absolutism of the OP.
Redleg
(5,881 posts)I am referring to the nature of Israel's current operations in Gaza not the legitimacy of their operations. Hamas is not like Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. It's a terrorist organization that has a base of support within Gaza and a good deal of political sway in Gaza. Unlike Germany and Japan it cannot carry out sustained high-intensity military operations outside the borders of Gaza. Neither could the Vietcong. That is why Hamas engages in low-intensity targeted attacks, like the Oct. 7 attack. It simply does not pose the same level of threat to Israel that the Germans posed to their neighbors in the late 1930s and early 1940s. This is not to say that Israel shouldn't be fighting this fight. They have a just cause for attacking Hamas.
I think that comparison to WWII are not very helpful unless a person wants to justify "nuking" Gaza.
ProfessorGAC
(66,955 posts)And since you jumped right to putting words in my mouth with "nuking", this conversation is over.
Redleg
(5,881 posts)I never accused you of wanting to nuke Gaza.
Takealeft
(18 posts)It is that simple
Irish_Dem
(53,281 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,268 posts)And if no one is good, does good versus bad even have meaning in that circumstance?
KarenS
(4,323 posts)"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." attributed to Nietzsche
Redleg
(5,881 posts)I have always appreciated it and don't remember where I read it. I used to struggle through some of Nietzshe's better-known books back before I started grad school and had to turn my attention to my own discipline. Now I read historical fiction to pass the time.
KarenS
(4,323 posts)When you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back. Yoda
Redleg
(5,881 posts)In these days I will take a laugh where I can get it. Thanks.
jimfields33
(17,314 posts)Only Russia and humas are evil and doing wrong. The Ukrainians and Israelis are doing very good defending themselves.
NickB79
(19,395 posts)My grandfather personally helped bring hell on Earth to the Germans in 1943-44.
He has his faults, like all of us, and suffered the PTSD from it for the rest of his life, but was most definitely a good entity in my eyes for what he did then.
yagotme
(3,513 posts)David__77
(23,831 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,250 posts)If so, What is your solution to this?