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applegrove

(118,355 posts)
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 10:04 PM Nov 2023

Adam Kinzinger zinger:

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"The consequences of a Donald Trump victory are so dire that I think you have to hold your nose and vote for somebody maybe you don't like.......we can survive four more years of Biden. I'm not sure we can survive four years of Donald Trump.

Republican Accountability @accountableGOP


Applegrove:

* thanks to my cousin for the suggestion

* I post these memes and trust that you'll know it is not directed at DUers but at those in your lives, or your internet, who are anyone from Democrats who might not feel like voting, to independants, to GOPers.

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applegrove

(118,355 posts)
2. It was directed at GOPers. I thought it was a clear
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:13 PM
Nov 2023

way to explain it to the GOPers in one's life. I find Biden to be masterful.

Tribetime

(4,679 posts)
5. That's scary because the independent voters are shallow
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:26 PM
Nov 2023

We are at the mercy of appearance right now that.
Biden appears old to not acknowledge. That is to put your head in the sand. Although he's far and away the best cand a date. People are shallow who don't follow politics

applegrove

(118,355 posts)
7. Some people just don't like politics in normal times.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:37 AM
Nov 2023

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They are not neccessarily shallow. These aren't normal times and you are right anyone who doesn't support those fighting Trump are shallow. Especially if they don't know what is going on. If they know what is going on they a sociopaths, or aping sociopaths to get power and are shallow by nature. Those who support Trump and believe the bullshit have been captured for all their grievances: be they a retired person with a MAGA hat who is angry they lost their union job halfway through their working lives and stopped thinking with reason and started substituting emotion as the sole decision maker, or some rich dude who is angry any time they have to participate in some way with democracy by paying taxes or following regulations because they think that is what makes them unhappy. Both are resentful. All of the above are shallow. And in both the last 2 cases they are delusional. When I fell under a psycopaths sway for 2 months and ten days, that I bought into him totally, I stopped writing in my diary: I totally bought what I thought was going on around me and stopped self reflection. I was floored when I looked back on my diaries and realized that a few years later. These Trump fans should move to Saudi Arabia/Russia/China to see how they like a autocracy and no civil rights. Or self reflect while not relying on what is going on around them.

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
8. Good suggestion to turn the phrase around instead of them holding their nose to vote for Trump
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 06:28 AM
Nov 2023

I actuallly had a conversation before the 2020 election with a conservative friend who said she would have to hold her nose to vote for Trump because he is so amoral. This was before all of his lies and criminal attempts to overturn that election and current threats of violent revenge. I would think it would be easier this time for Repubs to realize they shouldn't even consider voting for someone so dangerously corrupt.

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