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William769

(55,151 posts)
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:09 AM Nov 2023

Trump loyalist bashes him for the first time as 'a traitor' and a complete idiot: book

A Donald Trump loyalist came forward for the first time to bash him in Jonathan Karl's new book.

In an interview with MSNBC's Jen Psaki, the ABC News reporter revealed that in his book "Tired of Winning," someone who has previously not come out publicly against Trump dropped a bomb on the former president.

"He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring," the former White House official told Karl. "He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law."

Karl explained that the person was in the West Wing and worked alongside Trump for more than a year at a "high level." The key title is "official," indicating it wasn't a staffer or aide.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-loyalist-bashes-him-for-the-first-time-as-a-traitor-and-a-complete-idiot-book/ar-AA1jSSzh

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Trump loyalist bashes him for the first time as 'a traitor' and a complete idiot: book (Original Post) William769 Nov 2023 OP
Hmmmm... TSExile Nov 2023 #1
Money talks. William769 Nov 2023 #2
Our media seems more willing to listen if there's a book to promote Kennah Nov 2023 #33
*EXCELLENT* point! UTUSN Nov 2023 #7
So neither Jon KARL or the official are brave to identify. Jon came from NY Post UTUSN Nov 2023 #3
Thanks for the info. William769 Nov 2023 #5
Gee he thinks that now! Tree Lady Nov 2023 #4
the Grand Facade has to break RussBLib Nov 2023 #6
The GOP has lost its soul for good. William769 Nov 2023 #10
problem is Skittles Nov 2023 #18
Nice quote, would be more effective if attributed. Ferryboat Nov 2023 #25
Unless he comes out Shana Nov 2023 #31
'Man up' is sexist. Also, it could be a woman. redqueen Nov 2023 #32
That damning quote has been excerpted on several sites today. sop Nov 2023 #35
That description of Trump swong19104 Nov 2023 #44
So NO idea who this is kwolf68 Nov 2023 #8
Agree. SharonClark Nov 2023 #19
He was also on... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #9
Nicole is a good judge of character. William769 Nov 2023 #11
Except for all the years she was a Republican SharonClark Nov 2023 #21
I admire her and respect her now. Bumbles Nov 2023 #45
She was excited to discuss the book and had Carl SharonClark Nov 2023 #20
It felt more... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #29
Ivanka said what? Walleye Nov 2023 #12
Good one. William769 Nov 2023 #13
My guess is Mick Mulvaney. rsdsharp Nov 2023 #14
So they waited years... sheshe2 Nov 2023 #15
Bolton? But useless if anonymous, doubly so if not on Fox. nt wiggs Nov 2023 #16
So NOT a "loyalist" then... RockRaven Nov 2023 #17
Maybe it was intended as an endorsement. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2023 #22
And that's barely touching the surface malaise Nov 2023 #23
K&R brer cat Nov 2023 #24
This just makes me mad. Some loser just woke up? yardwork Nov 2023 #26
Take a ticket and get on the end of the line. no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #27
Aren't those the qualities a Trump loyalist admires? Freethinker65 Nov 2023 #28
I couldn't have described him better myself. mwb970 Nov 2023 #30
Spot on accurate depiction of the thing Moostache Nov 2023 #34
Nice to know someone else has him in their prayes too. Ferryboat Nov 2023 #37
Better late than never. Every loyalist who turns on Dump encourages others to do so. Martin68 Nov 2023 #36
Want to read the words of a coward? Goodheart Nov 2023 #38
only traitors can support this ignorant monster samsingh Nov 2023 #39
Speculation is pretty much useless, but I still find myself wondering who this person could be. keep_left Nov 2023 #40
These yellow bellied, lily livered cowards always cash in for years Warpy Nov 2023 #41
But he would still vote for him lame54 Nov 2023 #42
Cut from the same cloth. Woodwizard Nov 2023 #43
Kick for later Poiuyt Nov 2023 #46

UTUSN

(70,793 posts)
3. So neither Jon KARL or the official are brave to identify. Jon came from NY Post
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:18 AM
Nov 2023

as he told STEPANOPOULIS today on his latest book peddling tour, "known" Drumpf for 30 years, and as I say is the wingnut heir to Brit HUME who was the wingnut presence at ABC as the consigliere of the BUSH Family Evil Empire, before he/HUME gathered the guts or resentment over being passed over for Anchor to go to his true home/Fox.

Jon only swings to the "Center" in order to go on the talk show circuit when he's got a book.






RussBLib

(9,059 posts)
6. the Grand Facade has to break
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:23 AM
Nov 2023

...the GOP needs to rediscover its soul and get rid of this orange clown.

Judging by this quote, this guy knows Trump pretty well: "He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring. He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law."

Do tell.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

Skittles

(153,314 posts)
18. problem is
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:19 AM
Nov 2023

that kind of character / behavior seems to be an ASSET for MAGAts, they're DISGUSTING too

Ferryboat

(928 posts)
25. Nice quote, would be more effective if attributed.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 09:22 AM
Nov 2023

Must feel pretty disgusted make a statement like that.
But is a coward by staying anonymous.

Shana

(16 posts)
31. Unless he comes out
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:59 AM
Nov 2023

Publicly and works to reelect Biden its useless. Man up and work to save the country Dude.

redqueen

(115,108 posts)
32. 'Man up' is sexist. Also, it could be a woman.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:07 PM
Nov 2023

Either way they should come out publicly and speak out against the wannabe dictator.

There's too much at stake.

sop

(10,302 posts)
35. That damning quote has been excerpted on several sites today.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:41 PM
Nov 2023

It pretty much summarizes what Hillary (and everyone else with any decency, honesty and half a brain) was saying about Trump in 2016. The quote also pretty much explains why Trump's followers voted for him in 2016, 2020 and will do so again in 2024: he is precisely the sort of man they want in charge of this country.

swong19104

(309 posts)
44. That description of Trump
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 07:33 PM
Nov 2023

can be made by any sane person. Who were the sane people at the "official" level in the Trump administration?

2naSalit

(86,978 posts)
9. He was also on...
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:26 AM
Nov 2023

With Nicole today and she seemed like she doesn't like him very much. Not sure what the deal was but she interrupted him a lot and it wasn't like her.

Bumbles

(48 posts)
45. I admire her and respect her now.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 10:20 AM
Nov 2023

Didn't so much when she was Pallin's handler. I wonder how she felt about that "character."

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
20. She was excited to discuss the book and had Carl
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 05:57 AM
Nov 2023

on longer than her usual interviews. She didn’t seem hostile to him, she’s not usually hostile to any of her guests, it’s not her style.

sheshe2

(84,076 posts)
15. So they waited years...
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:45 AM
Nov 2023

Years to tell us that he is a clear and present danger to us and to the world. Yes, we figured that part out ourselves, yet he hid that information from us. The man, his soldiers and devoted flock are insane.

We must stop them before it is too late.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,218 posts)
22. Maybe it was intended as an endorsement.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 06:24 AM
Nov 2023

The Cletus Squad will pick up on it and brag about it to their friends, neighbors, and other small woodland creatures.

yardwork

(61,809 posts)
26. This just makes me mad. Some loser just woke up?
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 09:33 AM
Nov 2023

They worked closely with Trump FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR - helping to cause heaven knows how much damage - and NOW (just in time for a book deal) they're noticing that Trump is a malignant sociopath?

Sorry. Too little too late.

Freethinker65

(10,117 posts)
28. Aren't those the qualities a Trump loyalist admires?
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 09:55 AM
Nov 2023

The people propping Trump up are quite happy with those characteristics because they can exploit those qualities and behaviors to destroy democracy while enriching themselves, which is the end goal.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
34. Spot on accurate depiction of the thing
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:31 PM
Nov 2023

I called out Trump as the threat to the Republic he is all the way back in 2015 on that goddamn escalator ride with the paid audience and calling Mexicans rapists. NOTHING has changed about the pile of human feces waiting to be shat out since that day. If anything, he is just worse by %'s every day.

I have stated before and I will reiterate here...there has NEVER been another human being in my life that I have loathed more than 2-scoops. If he dies, I pray its today (literally EVERY morning), secure in the knowledge that it will be sooner than later and that on that glorious occasion I will break out the bottle of bubbly that has been chilled since November 2016. I am getting drunk as hell that night and intend to toast that MFer's demise heartily.

Martin68

(22,971 posts)
36. Better late than never. Every loyalist who turns on Dump encourages others to do so.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:48 PM
Nov 2023

I’m not saying they are good people - I’m saying it is good for the country and our democracy when they finally come clean.

Goodheart

(5,352 posts)
38. Want to read the words of a coward?
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:07 PM
Nov 2023

I give you:

"He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring," the former White House official told Karl. "He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law."

Any individual who served in a high ranking capacity and feels that but won't identify himself is chickenshit, in my view. As it stands it's an utterly worthless quote.

keep_left

(1,800 posts)
40. Speculation is pretty much useless, but I still find myself wondering who this person could be.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:33 PM
Nov 2023

This statement in the article doesn't really help narrow it down much; most Trump officials were there more than a year. Of course, then there was Anthony Scaramucci...

Karl explained that the person was in the West Wing and worked alongside Trump for more than a year at a "high level." The key title is "official," indicating it wasn't a staffer or aide.

I'm wondering if it's one of the Trump officials who flamed out spectacularly like Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Or maybe it's someone with a lower profile like Kirstjen Nielsen (Secretary of DHS).

Warpy

(111,473 posts)
41. These yellow bellied, lily livered cowards always cash in for years
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 03:10 PM
Nov 2023

saving up all the truth they have to tell for some damned book.

I am so sick of these people.

Anyone who was capable of listening to TFG for 15 seconds knew all that stuff. So no, Karl, this should not salve your conscience nor will it save your soul. Or your career.

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