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Sogo

(4,997 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 10:45 PM Nov 2023

I've heard enough....I'm going to switch parties to R and caucus against Trump.

I'm in the "red" state of Iowa. Our caucus is often determinative.

That's why I'm going to switch parties to R and caucus against Trump. I'll likely try to go to party meetings and talk against him and maybe even work on behalf of another candidate....not sure which yet...

I write this after just hearing Jen Saki and Rachel tonight talking about the danger that Trump's candacy has become, particularly in the last 48 hours.

I implore other DUers who are in Iowa to do the same. We can stop him here!

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I've heard enough....I'm going to switch parties to R and caucus against Trump. (Original Post) Sogo Nov 2023 OP
Be careful if you do that dflprincess Nov 2023 #1
The media are still afraid of Hitler comparisons, and you can bet they'll have the latest poll in the morning Walleye Nov 2023 #2
I've thought about thsi HelpImSurrounded Nov 2023 #3
Who will you support? nt DURHAM D Nov 2023 #4
Not sure, but it would have to be someone who might have a chance against him. Sogo Nov 2023 #5
Haley against Biden is trouble Polybius Nov 2023 #11
Agree. sop Nov 2023 #28
We don't want to run against Haley in the end... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #18
I think Haley has the best shot at beating Biden Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #24
Good idea, but be prepared ecstatic Nov 2023 #6
I'm prepared. I did it one other time - against W's second term. Sogo Nov 2023 #8
How did you "do it" against W's second term?? DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #19
It's a great idea. Might be a little difficult to prepare for Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #7
Not a bad idea. ColinC Nov 2023 #9
I may vote in the Michigan Republican primary..... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #20
I can make an exception for trump, but don't usually support such efforts. Just sayin. Silent Type Nov 2023 #10
We'll fare much worse against Haley Polybius Nov 2023 #12
In other words, Haley won't dismantle democracy? summer_in_TX Nov 2023 #16
Not so sure a woman mzmolly Nov 2023 #17
Tell that to all the Democrats living in SharonClark Nov 2023 #21
I'll tell that to Hilary mzmolly Nov 2023 #29
Why bother? brooklynite Nov 2023 #13
Why bother is that Iowa is still First in the Nation for the Rs. Sogo Nov 2023 #15
Isn't trump ahead by 30 points? SharonClark Nov 2023 #22
It's true that we each get only one vote. Mister Ed Nov 2023 #23
I draw a distinction between voting for the candidate you want, regardless of the odds brooklynite Nov 2023 #25
Yep....I was going to suggest that, Sogo Nov 2023 #30
I used to live in Kansas, and a lot of PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2023 #14
You have all our support in the trenches, Sogo bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #26
Don't debase yourself. It won't make any difference. The cult will follow Trump no matter Vinca Nov 2023 #27

Walleye

(31,071 posts)
2. The media are still afraid of Hitler comparisons, and you can bet they'll have the latest poll in the morning
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 10:50 PM
Nov 2023

HelpImSurrounded

(441 posts)
3. I've thought about thsi
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 10:50 PM
Nov 2023

I'm in deep red Texas so voting in the dem primaries is virtually irrelevant for me. But maybe I can do some damage if I vote in the other primary.

Sogo

(4,997 posts)
5. Not sure, but it would have to be someone who might have a chance against him.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 10:57 PM
Nov 2023

I appreciate that Christy has been forthright in his comments about Trump, but I don't think he has momentum.

I'm thinking Haley might be a better option.

What do you think?

Polybius

(15,507 posts)
11. Haley against Biden is trouble
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:30 PM
Nov 2023

Biden has a much better chance of defeating the Trump, who will be 77 in next year.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,431 posts)
18. We don't want to run against Haley in the end...
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:25 AM
Nov 2023

carry someone else for a few rounds... lol

Don't help the GQP to solve their problem...

Dorian Gray

(13,503 posts)
24. I think Haley has the best shot at beating Biden
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 07:04 AM
Nov 2023

Do with that info what you might.

Having said that, if you truly feel like Trump is a unique danger to our nation, then I wouldn't blame you for going any route in your state.

ecstatic

(32,740 posts)
6. Good idea, but be prepared
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:05 PM
Nov 2023

I voted in the rethug primary of '22. I felt really disgusted by the entire process and the crazy questions on the ballot to the point where I almost didn't turn in the ballot. Then I was put on all sorts of mailing lists. Received lots of anti-trans stuff, etc.

That said, this is a dangerous time and we do have to be strategic.

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
7. It's a great idea. Might be a little difficult to prepare for
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:12 PM
Nov 2023

how to lead a bunch of grub worms. I wish you luck.

If you pull it off you have to give us the nitty-gritty on how it all went.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,431 posts)
20. I may vote in the Michigan Republican primary.....
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:31 AM
Nov 2023

We have no party registration. You can request whichever ballot you want..... when you go to vote. Everyone is 'independent'...



I will see what the situation is at that time....


I did vote in the GOP primary once previously in my life, for John McCain against GW Bush--
later I learned that my father had done the same thing, but we never discussed it previously....


Silent Type

(3,005 posts)
10. I can make an exception for trump, but don't usually support such efforts. Just sayin.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:28 PM
Nov 2023

Plus, I’m not sure we’ll fare better running against someone else. Obviously, the risk if trump is elected is enormous. But so is the risk of another GOPer nominee.

Polybius

(15,507 posts)
12. We'll fare much worse against Haley
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:33 PM
Nov 2023

On the plus side, there will be elections in 2028 and 2032 if she wins.

summer_in_TX

(2,762 posts)
16. In other words, Haley won't dismantle democracy?
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:46 AM
Nov 2023

Will she be able to withstand all the planning and momentum pushing toward that if she happened to be the nominee and win the 2024 election?

I do size her up as far more reality-based than almost everyone else on the ticket, and unlikely to have her own desire to become a dictator.

brooklynite

(94,787 posts)
13. Why bother?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:35 PM
Nov 2023

If the race was close it might be worthwhile, but the polling average has Trump up by more than 20% with two months to go. Nothing's likely to change the race dynamics.

Sogo

(4,997 posts)
15. Why bother is that Iowa is still First in the Nation for the Rs.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:43 PM
Nov 2023

If things swing against him here, it could snowball....or at least start some momentum in that direction.

Mister Ed

(5,944 posts)
23. It's true that we each get only one vote.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 05:01 AM
Nov 2023

A drop in the bucket, really, even in the much smaller bucket of a party primary.

That's what makes "why bother?" the rallying cry of those who refuse to rally, and don't bother to vote at all.

If we only voted when there was a likelihood that our one vote might tilt the scale, we would very seldom vote at all.

The OP is just trying to figure out how to do the most good with that one tiny vote.

brooklynite

(94,787 posts)
25. I draw a distinction between voting for the candidate you want, regardless of the odds
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 08:38 AM
Nov 2023

....and attempting to influence the outcome of another Party's Primary. By that theory, EVERYONE should register for the Republican contest in their State because there won't be a contest in the Democratic Party,

Sogo

(4,997 posts)
30. Yep....I was going to suggest that,
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 04:12 PM
Nov 2023

but I thought I'd just keep it to my state and hope others catch on....

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
14. I used to live in Kansas, and a lot of
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:38 PM
Nov 2023

Democrats I knew registered as Republicans so as to be able to vote in the Republican primaries. About half of them would vote for the craziest R, the other half for the more sensible one. I constantly argued that they should leave the Republican primaries to the actual Republicans, and also pointed out that the reason so few Democrats ran for office was that they looked at those registration numbers and figured, "Why bother?"

I will add that I ran for the Kansas State House in 2004. I lost that election. I was up against a popular, moderate, incumbent Republican. But I did well enough that two years later the Democratic Party realized that seat was winnable, and gave a lot of support to the man who ran for that seat. He won. And he was re-elected. Sadly, the state was becoming more and more right-wing, and so he lost the third time. But I feel very good that I laid the groundwork for him.

bucolic_frolic

(43,361 posts)
26. You have all our support in the trenches, Sogo
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 08:44 AM
Nov 2023

Undercover is hard work. Set good and safe boundaries, plan your exit when it's time, and keep what records you need for your own sanity, safety, and recall.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
27. Don't debase yourself. It won't make any difference. The cult will follow Trump no matter
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 08:51 AM
Nov 2023

what they hear about him. Plus, on the odd chance your method worked and Trump didn't get the nomination, would any of the replacements be much better? A couple of them have the "aura of normalcy" and would get voters who might have voted for Biden over Trump.

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