I hope DUers will watch this with open minds...

[Think. Again.]

We have had a lot of very harsh disagreements lately over differences of opinions on Israel/Palestine and I am cross-posting this video found originally here: https://democraticunderground.com/13222626 because I feel that the inarguable points presented (humor aside) might give us all a starting point for some unity in these difficult conversations.

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[malaise]

2. Thanks

Rec

[VernaF]

8. Hey malaise... Have You Seen This ?

I'm not allowed to start threads yet.

Israel-Gaza War Set to Splinter Democratic Party - James Zogby

Link: https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/israel-gaza-democratic-party

[malaise]

9. Very sad

But democracies have to defend against war crimes and genocide.
Watch this

[VernaF]

10. Thank You For That

[kimbutgar]

3. This was the best discussion on the subject I've ever heard on the situation

And was sympathetic to both Israel and Palestine and how Hamas took over and Bibi took advantage to keep his power. They needed a two state solution and Bibi was ok with Hamas to keep his power.

[ancianita]

5. Oliver can miss me with all the decadent stupidity of celebrity opinion; he can go straight to Mast's

speech (7:14) on the House floor. Laughing at our own domestic stupidity isn't a good setup for his addressing the bloody Israel-Hamas war. But it's not my show.

Yes, Oliver's information is key to establishing an agreed upon set of facts for judging who should live or die when
a) conflating the leaders with their people as a monolith, and
b) downplaying the suffering of innocents to use them as "assets" when promoting one's own side.

Knowing this --
"We are doomed to live here together and we have to choose whether to share this land or to share the graveyard under it." --

We as allies must expedite their decision that both people's descendants live in a peaceful two-state future. Just my opinion.

[Goddessartist]

6. Thank you so much!

I'm so very grateful he laid it out so beautifully.

[Eko]

7. Kick

[megapuzzler]

11. Thank you n/t

[BlueCheeseAgain]

12. I haven't watched it yet, so I don't yet know if he agrees with me or not.

Or somewhere in between.

But based on my experience with other topics, I think Oliver, while frequently funny and incisive, often oversimplifies complicated issues to make his viewpoint seem unassailably correct. I hope he didn't do that here.

[mountain grammy]

13. K&R

[Xavier Breath]

14. K & R. That was great segment and show overall.

And, although this won't make a lick of sense to anyone who didn't watch the show, I will quibble with his choice for 'bird of the century.' There were more deserving choices, IMHO, and my votes reflected that. I did enjoy his needling of New Zealanders. Funny stuff.

[H2O Man]

15. Recommended.

Thank you for this. I can't find words right now, other than thank you.