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(171,220 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 10:52 PM Nov 2023

Why do they like him?

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Why do they like him?
Published by digby on November 6, 2023
The perennial question

The Faye Dunaway character in “Network” explained Howard Beale’s popularity: “The American people are turning sullen. They’ve been clobbered on all sides by Vietnam, Watergate, the inflation, the depression; they’ve turned off, shot up, and they’ve fucked themselves limp, and nothing helps. The American people want somebody to articulate their rage for them.”

Is Trump just Howard Beale? It’s as good an explanation as anything, I guess. But remember, Howard Beale was certifiably nuts.

The man is a disgraceful pig. His antics on the witness stand today were beyond outrageous. Lisa Rubin on NBC describes his testimony as “someone who was not in control of his id today.” He’s not in control of his id any day. And yet, he is leading in the battleground states right now because Joe Biden is old and foolish people have bought into his hype that he personally made the economy perfect when he was in office. (It wasn’t, they just have short memories.) It’s infuriating.


Trump acted the way he did on the stand because he knows he has an armed mob backing him up.



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Response to babylonsister (Original post)


(11,621 posts)
14. +1. The repug voters choose the orange one because he is their chance to hurt the Democrats.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 09:15 AM
Nov 2023

Cruelty and hate for us is all they got. Sure they dislike black and brown skinned people but, it's us Dems and Libs they hate the most. If they take power, they will come for us. if you don't own a gun, think about getting one while you still can.


(37,476 posts)
3. Pride?
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 11:08 PM
Nov 2023

The best way to admit you’re not wrong when you most likely know you are is to double and triple down on the lies in your head. A big dash of hate, a gallon of ignorance, two helpings of racism and ya got a trump gumbo.

I love real honest to goodness Looosiannna Gumbo, but sometimes bad actors fuck it up.


(51,846 posts)
4. Do you remember
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 11:47 PM
Nov 2023

when tRump finally acknowledged that Obama was born in the US but he couldn't admit he is a big, fat liar? Right away he turned around and blamed Clinton for starting the rumor. He is such an ass!!!



(4,741 posts)
18. Carl Sagan was even more detailed about the doubling down
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:24 PM
Nov 2023

All the way back in 1995:

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.

―The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Are we ever seeing the truth of that play out now.


(100,440 posts)
5. My theory is they like Trump because he allows them to unleash their inner asshole.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 11:54 PM
Nov 2023

They are tired of holding it in. They want to be as racist, sexist, classless, uneducated, gun toting cowboys possible, and just the biggest assholes, shitheads, and fuckheads this side of the Atlantic. Trump allows them to let it all hang out in the open. Rules? Society? Who needs that shit? They're uneducated and unsophisticated and proud of it.


(52,916 posts)
6. Because he is privilege personified
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 11:55 PM
Nov 2023

They're caught up in a worldview where privilege reigns, where they're told they deserve more than their fair share because their skin color or maleness or Christianity of cis-hetness.

And Donnie not only constantly pushes that worldview, but he is the ultimate exemplar of it. *everything* he has is due to privilege. Everything he does is based on privilege. Every hire, every favor, every insult, etc. all based on privilege.

His utter incompetence, his evilness, his shabby clothes, his bizarre hair, everything about him eliminates any other explanation for whatever success and fame he has. He's bad at everything other than privilege. Pushing it, leveraging it, benefitting from it. That's all he is.

He is, to the bigot, living proof that anyone white can win, anyone male can win, etc., even if they suck at their job or whatever. So he represents hope for people who can't find success in a fair system.


(2,410 posts)
7. He expresses their feelings. But, they know better.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:13 AM
Nov 2023

They know that's no way to elect a president. They don't care for some reason, like they just want to blow it all up.


(19,863 posts)
9. In the movie
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:19 AM
Nov 2023

'The Keep', when the monster that escapes the Keep is fully formed ( he was fog) and confronts the head Nazi as to why he's doing what he's doing, the monster says, " I am you" ......as he crumples a cross and kills the Nazi.
He is them.


(621 posts)
10. My take, they love assholes! Look at the 2016 primary
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:39 AM
Nov 2023

Cruz was 2nd, ASSHOLE

Look at Vivek this year, ASSHOLE! As soon as he started up, I thought, this guy will move up.

So, we all tend to look for things we aspire to in leaders. I am 61 years old, "my guy" has won Presidential Elections exactly once.

Obama, he is smarter than me, he exceeds my morals, he is a better communicator than me, he is smarter than me, he damn sure is thinner than me, currently better looking than me, but I will fight that I was better than him from about 1978 to 1984. (So I still hold out hope in that area)

So the majority of us look for the best, we understand our shortcomings, we look to the future. The majority of them are self centered fucking ASSHOLES. They could care JACK FUCKING SHIT what happens outside their own immediate world. To put it another way, they are pieces of shit, they are fucking assholes. They need to be treated as such.

p.s. Shake it Babylon Sister! Now is there gas in the car is my favorite line, Babylon Sisters shake it is my 2nd favorite.

Off to youtube to play both.

Stuart G

(38,565 posts)
12. A lot of people voted for Trump, and they will vote for him again
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:35 AM
Nov 2023

Let us say the number that will vote for him is 20 percent!
That equals about 60 million people. (If the U.S.A. has about 300 million people now)
60 million is a whole lot. And those people do suck. And, they always will suck.
So....what do we do?.................We get out and vote so that we greatly outnumber those that suck.

And there will always be a sizable amount of people who ........."SUCK.
And that is not new, it is as old as the U.S.A.

Tree Lady

(11,651 posts)
13. Look at a bunch of reality tv shows
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:41 AM
Nov 2023

There are a lot of people that watch those crazy shows and love excitement, crazy, drama and are addicted to it. I see people posting drama all the time on social media.

It's my belief some of them follow him because he's a bad boy rebel.


(17,844 posts)
17. They like him because they ARE him.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 11:36 AM
Nov 2023

He acts like a racist, misogynist, lying cretin, and they eat that up because that's what THEY are.

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