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lees1975

(3,981 posts)
Sun Nov 5, 2023, 11:52 PM Nov 2023

Weekend polls are a wake up call for Democrats.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2023/11/weekend-polls-are-wake-up-call-for.html
Four years of a Trump Presidency would be a dictatorship of white supremacist Christian nationalism. That's the only way to describe it. The Constitution would be a worthless scrap of paper, as would be the individual rights of any American who was not white, rich and conservative. Crime would be a matter of definition, and those who have committed crimes against humanity and against the Constitution would be in charge. Convincing Americans this is where things were headed after Trump's first election, and where they would go if he ever gets back in the White House is the task at hand. I hope there are people in the party who see this, are up for it, and are willing to make this an ongoing theme.

All that Democrats identify as wrong with House Speaker Mike Johnson's ideology and approach to governing is exactly what we will get if Trump is elected.

Pollsters right now can say and do as they please, knowing accountability is a year away. That's why the polls "tighten up" in the weeks before election day, the final poll numbers have to come in line with election results. But this weekend's polls, showing Trump leading Biden and giving some hints as to what people are perceiving, need to be a wake up call to Democrats. Otherwise, what we get will look like everything on Mike Johnson's agenda. And that won't be good. Come on Democrats, we cannot lose the 2024 election and everyone will have to work to prevent a loss.
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Sugarcoated

(7,741 posts)
2. Or people can wring their hands and wet the bed
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 12:41 AM
Nov 2023

over polling that is always inaccurate this far out from an election.

IAmReynaldo

(6 posts)
4. Navigating the Political Landscape
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 03:07 AM
Nov 2023

It's crucial for Democrats to address concerns and communicate their vision effectively. Focusing on policy discussions and engaging with diverse perspectives may be key in navigating the political landscape leading up to the 2024 election. This is interesting to think about and I hope that there are some changes that we have been seeing with how they’re treating different situations.

Silent3

(15,493 posts)
6. Weather forecasts don't create the weather either
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 06:07 AM
Nov 2023

On top of that, they aren't always accurate.

That doesn't mean you're smart to blithely ignore storm warnings.

Silent3

(15,493 posts)
9. The majority of polls show a close race, not just a few stray polls
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:47 AM
Nov 2023

What you're also missing, even if Biden is really ahead a few more points than polls in the aggregate of polls are showing, is that we still have a very serious problem if Biden merely ekes out a narrow victory.

The polls aren't so bad that they're off by 10-20%, but in a sensible, rational world, Biden SHOULD be ahead by that much. Biden SHOULD be so far ahead that a freakin' Magic Eight Ball knows he's ahead, never mind a marginally questionable poll.

If you say early polls "don't mean anything" (God, I hate how casually that phrase is bandied about), you're missing that there's no good excuse for the American people to need the election looming a mere days away to see what an enormous danger Trump is.

If you say national polls "don't mean anything", because "elections are decided by the states", you're missing that the popular vote seldom contradicts the electoral vote, and, when it does, it's still only because a race is much, much closer than it rationally should be with one candidate being Trump.

As long as so many people would be ready to vote for Trump again we're hanging onto Democracy by our fingertips. Each Democratic win is merely buying us time to solve a much deeper problem, which, left unsolved, means that one day our luck will cease to hold out and fascist autocracy will win.

jcgoldie

(11,674 posts)
8. Alternate headline "Republicans sleep right through '23 election results in which they had their ass beat"
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 09:53 AM
Nov 2023
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