NOT a good look, Bibi...

[WarGamer]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-leans-into-world-war-ii-rhetoric-to-justify-gaza-war/ar-AA1jbKvG

I hope this warmonger cretin is gone soon... the voters should get rid of him. His responsibility that the Intel went unheeded for 10/7.

“In 1944, the Royal Air Force bombed the Gestapo headquarters in Copenhagen. It’s a perfectly legitimate target. But the British pilots missed and instead of the Gestapo headquarters, they hit a children’s hospital nearby. And I think 84 children were burned to death,” he said. “That is not a war crime. That is not something you blame Britain for doing. That was a legitimate act of war with tragic consequences that accompany such legitimate actions.”

[krawhitham]

1. Is that admitting they hit the hospital?

I mean why use that example right now Bibi?

[WarGamer]

2. The hospital or the refugee camp... the first time or second time...

[brush]

3. Warmonger is correct. The WWll bombing was an untentional miss by the RAF...

while the bombing of the Palestinian refugee camp was intentional. And then there are the bombings of civilian housing at the chance Hamas has operations in them.

What kind of thinking is this?

[WarGamer]

5. I guess... in my mind

There's a team of guys in 1943 or whatever who say... there's a 70% chance we hit the target and a 40% chance a nearby hospital is hit.

And SOMEONE says, "nah, bomb the ball bearing factory tonight instead"

[The Magistrate]

6. You've No Idea, Sir, Whether Or Not Bombs Are Dropped On The Off Chance Of Hitting Some Hamas Target

Predisposition is a poor guide to conclusions, and cannot often stand up to reasoned consideration.

[PufPuf23]

7. Several DUers mentioned that Israel has nukes.

Disturbing.

[revmclaren]

8. Yes they do...they have their own M.A.D. policy.

in case Israel is attacked enmass.

Samson Option

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

And

Nuclear weapons and Israel


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

[revmclaren]

9. It has been what's keeping countries in the region

from a full out attack on Israel.

Thus the use of terrorists to do their dirty work and have some deniability that they were not involved.

[brush]

15. Are you saying that the IDF knew for sure that every building...

they obliterated housed Hamas operations? I would say you have no idea of that.

[The Magistrate]

18. I Say, Sir, That I Do Not Know

Nor do I know whether I would agree with the judgement some strike could gain sufficient military advantage to outweigh the risk it put non-combatants to, if I had some grasp of the factors that went into the decision.

My predisposition is the view that professional military forces don't scatter bombs about like grass seed, but try to strike specific targets, whose location and character they at least are convinced they know, and further, that they try and use no more ordinance than they conceive necessary to neutralize targets.

As to a soldiery's conduct, I do not expect sainthood, but that acceptance of emotional heat and blood-lust is not license for depravity.

[brush]

19. About what I thought, but the professional military force know as the IDF...

did scatter bombs about like grass seed ON THE REFUGEE CAMP NORTH OF GAZA CITY...a camp that they knew was full of civilian refugees.

[The Magistrate]

21. Again, Sir, You State A View, Not A Fact

I'm not going to repeat the things you cannot state that as a fact without knowing. All you have really communicated is what character you ascribe to one of the armed forces engaged in this war: you consider that body fired by blood-lust and revenge to an outrageous heat. To no one's amazement, that side is one of whose government you certainly, and of whose existence you may possibly, disapprove of.


"No law which conflicts with the ability of a force in the field to sustain itself is likely to be heeded."

[brush]

22. It's a fact that the refugee camp was hit by an IDG air strike...

so what are you going on about? Israel has a right to defend itself, but striking rufugee camps...?

[The Magistrate]

23. That Bombs Were Dropped There Is A Fact

That they were scattered like grass-seed, with the aim of, or at the least depraved indifference to, killing non-combatants is not a fact. It is your view. You interpret the bare fact we can agree on in light of a theory of why this war is going on, and of the character and aims of the combatants. At bottom, it's a sort of 'both sides' exercise: the behavior of one's opponent must be at least as bad, if not worse, than one's own, or how can one be sure he's on the side of the angels?


"I prefer the wicked to the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest.".

[brush]

24. Bombing a refugee camp is nothing but intent. Pls don't even try to argue with that.

When is retaliation enough? A refugee camp? My God.

[The Magistrate]

25. And With That Chuckle, Sir...

"I'm going home now. Someone get me some frogs and some bourbon."

[TheBlackAdder]

13. Is he comparing the precision bombs and artillery of today to the vague bombs and artillery of 1944?

[brewens]

4. Well, it was a good deal tougher for the British flyers to accurately bomb the Gestapo HQ. The IDF has weapons that can

be as accurate as they need them to be or want them to be.

[NickB79]

10. When the enemy is intentionally building HQ's UNDER civilian high rises and hospitals

What do you expect an extremely accurate weapon system to do, exactly?

[womanofthehills]

11. Not kill over 3000 children because you will have

The entire world against you.

[NickB79]

12. That wasn't the question asked

The question was, what good does an extremely accurate weapon system do when the other side is using civilians as human shields?

The other side that has said it wants to repeat Oct 7 over and over and over again, until Israel is wiped out.

[David__77]

16. You have to device how many babies it is worth.

[Warpy]

14. They've tried to oust his sorry ass more than once

and he's managed to slither his way back in.

Maybe this time some charges will stick or enough people will realize he's a self aggrandizing incompetent who has made them less safe over the years by overreacting in all the wrong places.

[Prairie Gates]

17. I dunno...Bibi is actually being fairly subtle and decent here

He could have very easily picked a different analogy - the indiscriminate bombing of German cities by the Allies, or, you know, firebombing Tokyo or...well, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's been the argument of many on these boards, in fact. "Nobody cried about Dresden, after all!"

Netanyahu, instead, analogizes with a completely unaffiliated set of victims - the Palestinians in Gaza are the Danes, occupied by the evil Nazis but not of them. That's a damn sight better and more decent than some of the arguments DU has been treated to.

In any case, plenty of people did cry about Dresden, not least some US POWs who were tasked with scraping up the burned bits and pieces of its children. You might have heard of one of them, a writer by the name of Vonnegut. Wrote a little book called Slaughterhouse 5 about it; maybe you're familiar.

[Sky Jewels]

20. He is an evil POS.

Rational people on all sides can agree that he needs to go away forever.