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Jilly_in_VA

(10,380 posts)
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 01:28 PM Oct 2023

Justin Jones Slams Mike Johnson's 'Insulting' Excuse For Mass Shootings

Tennessee state Rep. Justin Jones (D) scorched newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) for saying “the problem is the human heart,” not guns, after a gunman killed 18 people in Maine last week.

Jones, a “Tennessee Three” member who Republicans expelled from the state House in April for joining protesters calling for stricter gun control, reacted to a clip of Johnson telling Fox News’ Sean Hannity that guns aren’t the problem and “we have to protect the right of the citizens to protect themselves.”

“I want to let Speaker Johnson know that in my faith tradition, when you put objects above people, we call that idolatry. And when you put the lives of people under money and campaign contributions, we call that idolatry,” Jones told MSNBC’s Jen Psaki in a plea for “common sense gun laws” on Sunday.

“And so let’s not use faith and false thoughts and prayers to gloss over this issue,” added the lawmaker, who is a divinity student at Vanderbilt University.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justin-jones-mike-johnson-problem-human-heart-shootings_n_653f2703e4b0a78a26a3b33d

I want to see this guy in Congress one day soon!

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Justin Jones Slams Mike Johnson's 'Insulting' Excuse For Mass Shootings (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Oct 2023 OP
Me too! sagetea Oct 2023 #1
(Any chance we can get him there tomorrow?) lastlib Oct 2023 #7
Imagine having a religion where you want everyone murdering each other in cold blood. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #2
Sounds like it's Johnson's own problem. calimary Oct 2023 #3
Yes Mr. Johnson, the problem is indeed the human heart. After a person is shot with an AR whatever, they die. justhanginon Oct 2023 #4
Yes Mr. Johnson, the problem is indeed the human heart. 2naSalit Oct 2023 #10
Asked about shootings, new House speaker says, 'It's not guns' LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #5
He has a lot of hate in heart. LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #9
Re: point #2: robbob Oct 2023 #14
Fabulous response! Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #6
This guy musclecar6 Oct 2023 #8
It's odd listening to the new Speaker du Jour opine about the "human heart." ShazzieB Oct 2023 #11
I think we can all agree that State Rep Justin Jones needs to go far in politics. NNadir Oct 2023 #12
He upholds defective beliefs and policies. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #13
love Justin Jones I will stop and listen to just about anything he has to say hydrolastic Oct 2023 #15
If there were no guns in this country how many mass shootings do you think there would be? Maraya1969 Oct 2023 #16
So let's go along with his statement... RainCaster Oct 2023 #17
Gun supporters are wrong about the 2nd Amendment Danascot Oct 2023 #18
I ABSOLUTELY agree with this statement. world wide wally Oct 2023 #21
Great quote from Justin Jones. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #19
Bravo, Rep. Jones! Keep it up! (nt) Paladin Oct 2023 #20

lastlib

(23,726 posts)
7. (Any chance we can get him there tomorrow?)
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 02:42 PM
Oct 2023

asking for me. And those who will be victims of gun violence.

Irish_Dem

(52,665 posts)
2. Imagine having a religion where you want everyone murdering each other in cold blood.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 01:40 PM
Oct 2023

For no reason whatsoever, just randomly kill each other.

I am glad people of faith are speaking out and against the insanity.

justhanginon

(3,299 posts)
4. Yes Mr. Johnson, the problem is indeed the human heart. After a person is shot with an AR whatever, they die.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 01:42 PM
Oct 2023

And that is indeed a problem!

2naSalit

(88,965 posts)
10. Yes Mr. Johnson, the problem is indeed the human heart.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 03:09 PM
Oct 2023

His.

Though I am beginning to question whether it is human.

LetMyPeopleVote

(149,068 posts)
5. Asked about shootings, new House speaker says, 'It's not guns'
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 02:06 PM
Oct 2023

Johnson thinks that Americans have darker hearts than the rest of the world where mass shootings are rare compared to the United States.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/asked-shootings-new-house-speaker-says-s-not-guns-rcna122458

It was against this backdrop that new House Speaker Mike Johnson sat down with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, and fielded a question about those advocating new safeguards to prevent future slayings. The Louisiana Republican responded:

At the end of the day, the problem is the human heart. It’s not guns, it’s not the weapons. At the end of the day, we have to protect the right of the citizens to protect themselves, and that’s the Second Amendment. And that’s why our party stands so strongly for that. ... This is not the time to be talking about legislation. We’re in the middle of that crisis right now.


So, a few things.

First, the idea that the problem is “the human heart” and not firearms is belied by the experiences of pretty much every other country on the planet. There are billions of human hearts in nations around the globe, but mass shootings like these are only common in the United States. Unless the Louisiana Republican is prepared to argue that American hearts are somehow worse than other people’s hearts, this is not an argument to be taken seriously.

Second, it’s true that the crisis in Maine is still unfolding, and efforts to apprehend the suspected shooter are underway. But it’s also true that Johnson and his GOP colleagues will be no more interested in new safeguards after the immediate crisis has subsided than they are now.

Third, the idea that the United States has to choose between the status quo and the Second Amendment is plainly false. There are a great many potentially lifesaving safeguards that policymakers can create that would fall well within constitutional boundaries. It would simply take some political will — which among Republicans, does not appear to exist.

robbob

(3,565 posts)
14. Re: point #2:
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 06:11 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Thu Nov 2, 2023, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes, for the GOP it’s always “too soon to talk about it”, and their political opponents are always “trying to politicize this latest tragedy”, etc etc…

Problem is, aside from the cynical hypocrisy of a party that has no intention of EVERY doing anything about, or even discussing, gun control, in the process of waiting until it’s not “too soon” there is inevitably yet another mass shooting, which then restarts the whole “x number of days without a mass shooting incident” clock all over again, such that it will always be too soon, in their opinion, to talk about gun reform. Just the way their NRA donors like it…

ShazzieB

(17,227 posts)
11. It's odd listening to the new Speaker du Jour opine about the "human heart."
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 03:10 PM
Oct 2023

Considering that he obviously doesn't have one. I mean, the more we hear from him, the more I'm convinced that if we could look inside him we'd find a lump of coal where a heart should be.

NNadir

(33,695 posts)
12. I think we can all agree that State Rep Justin Jones needs to go far in politics.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 03:52 PM
Oct 2023

I enthusiastically concur with the last line of the OP.

hydrolastic

(504 posts)
15. love Justin Jones I will stop and listen to just about anything he has to say
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:52 PM
Oct 2023

and he just gets better and better.

Maraya1969

(22,811 posts)
16. If there were no guns in this country how many mass shootings do you think there would be?
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 04:56 AM
Oct 2023

To use that may sounds silly but ask it of the ones hawking guns and see what they would say?

RainCaster

(11,091 posts)
17. So let's go along with his statement...
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 10:23 AM
Oct 2023

So the human heart really is that bad here in America. Every other country on earth wants to keep their citizens safe from those poisonous American hearts. Most of them enact laws banning those terrible murderous hearts from entering their countries. However, a few countries with authoritarian leaders like those murderous Americans, and they keep their borders open. In this world, Americans are only welcome in NK, China, Russia and a few mid-east and African banana republics.

Is that where Johnson is going with his train of thought?

sheshe2

(84,987 posts)
19. Great quote from Justin Jones.
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 10:36 AM
Oct 2023
“I want to let Speaker Johnson know that in my faith tradition, when you put objects above people, we call that idolatry. And when you put the lives of people under money and campaign contributions, we call that idolatry,”
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