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Do you have a favorable opinion of President Biden's speech? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 OP
He hit the best balance possible uponit7771 Oct 2023 #1
He sure did. He hit all the important points and wnylib Oct 2023 #6
Didn't watch it. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #2
Not happy with the "American Jobs" sales pitch Thunderbeast Oct 2023 #3
big oof WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #5
That was so weirdly out of place Sympthsical Oct 2023 #9
He's not wrong though! dsp3000 Oct 2023 #10
This is spin for the hawks randr Oct 2023 #12
I'm sure I will BootinUp Oct 2023 #4
He brought me to tears mcar Oct 2023 #7
I love our President dearly but cannot listen to him speak. I can always read about his speech later. n/t SheilaAnn Oct 2023 #8
It needed an editor Sympthsical Oct 2023 #11


(21,902 posts)
6. He sure did. He hit all the important points and
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:40 PM
Oct 2023

did it well. Protect democracy at home and abroad from tyrants and terrorists, give aid to Palestinian civilians and Ukrainians, and provide for our own security on the southern border.

Biden is a leader, among the best that the US has produced.


(3,433 posts)
3. Not happy with the "American Jobs" sales pitch
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 08:32 PM
Oct 2023

I thought it was disturbing that part of his pitch was referring to the boost in arms manufacturing jobs (state by state) to sell the agenda.

We must reduce dependence on war to maintain our economy.


(9,217 posts)
9. That was so weirdly out of place
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:18 AM
Oct 2023

I was half-listening while doing something else, so I kept clocking in and out. When he got to the part about making weapons in various states, I stopped and rewound it. Was he really selling weapons manufacturing jobs during this?

That is apparently what was happening.

That really felt shoved in out of the blue given the gravity of the topic.


(494 posts)
10. He's not wrong though!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:18 AM
Oct 2023

Someone has to make the weapons, whether right or wrong. If we don't make weapons, someone else will.


(9,217 posts)
11. It needed an editor
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:24 AM
Oct 2023

It felt really scattered and out of focus. Most people were tuning in to hear his thoughts and proposed policy about the Israel/Hamas conflict, and the speech ended up going much, much wider. As a result, it was kind of all over the place (the lines about weapons manufacturing jobs were really out of left field).

I looked at the transcript afterward, and I just wanted to take a red pen to the entire thing.

There is a much better speech inside of this speech. I do like that he tied the broader reasons we support both Israel and Ukraine and the idea that aggression unchecked leads to wider chaos that has far-reaching effects. He was almost laying out what we might be able to think of as the Biden Doctrine.

And I like the Biden Doctrine, as much of it as I got out of that speech.

But it feels like there was a speech writer somewhere in the Oval Office who turned in a first draft and figured. "It's fine. As long as it's done." A major foreign policy speech probably shouldn't sound like how I treat my college papers.

The attitude and policy are good. The writing was ooft.

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