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underpants

(182,826 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:11 AM Oct 2023

🏈 #1 NFL draft pick (2024) wants ownership as part of his deal

Posting this in GD as it is labor related.
Caleb Williams (U So. Cal) will almost certainly be the first pick next year. The part about the Jets concerns Aaron Rodgers who tried to get equity into his contract.


Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.

The Jets never had to say “no,” because the league did it for the Jets — and every other team — last week.

It feels like an antitrust violation. And it’s potentially collusion, if giving a player equity is not prohibited by the Collective Bargaining Agreement and if the new rule was passed without bargaining between the league and the union.

Actually, that could be the angle for attacking this. It’s quite possibly collusive on its face. If it was possible to give players equity before the NFL recently changed the rules and if the NFL changed the rules without negotiating with the union, the decision to prevent all teams from giving players equity amounts to collusion.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/aaron-rodgers-caleb-williams-were-among-the-players-jostling-for-equity

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🏈 #1 NFL draft pick (2024) wants ownership as part of his deal (Original Post) underpants Oct 2023 OP
Sorry DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #1
Looks to me like there is an I in team for Caleb. gab13by13 Oct 2023 #2
There is definitely a "M E" mixed in there. Ursus Rex Oct 2023 #6
Hmmm. Doesn't the league routinely make decisions stopdiggin Oct 2023 #3
Awesome! AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #4
This is a huge can of worms that'll newdayneeded Oct 2023 #5
Notre Dame just demolished USC and him look foolish. 617Blue Oct 2023 #7
So there are 53 players on an nfl roster Takket Oct 2023 #8
This sounds like nonsense to me genxlib Oct 2023 #9
Bears arent going to do that MistakenLamb Oct 2023 #10
Putting the Brinks armored car before the victory parade, wot? Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #11
I would think the NFL and Teams would tell him he's not worth it MagickMuffin Oct 2023 #12

DemocratInPa

(343 posts)
1. Sorry
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:12 AM
Oct 2023

After watching him against the first real D he played this year Saturday, I wouldn't touch him.

His demands for a guy that never played a snap in the league is getting cringe worthy.

Ursus Rex

(148 posts)
6. There is definitely a "M E" mixed in there.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:43 AM
Oct 2023

And I completely understand his urge to get paid, but he may overestimate his worth to a franchise, esp if he keeps playing like he did this past weekend.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
3. Hmmm. Doesn't the league routinely make decisions
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:24 AM
Oct 2023

(rulings?) about who can and can't be an 'owner'? And NASCAR hands down new rules for teams and cars virtually every season ... Is it collusion?

I'm glad to see the government (partially) come out of their long, long hibernation on things like anti-trust and monopoly. But sports leagues have long held a privileged 'carve out' on these issues. (as I understand it)

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
5. This is a huge can of worms that'll
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:37 AM
Oct 2023

lead to distrust among players. I don't like it!

Just join the team Caleb, have a bang out rookie season and wait for your mere 45+ million a year....plus endorsements.

Takket

(21,575 posts)
8. So there are 53 players on an nfl roster
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:48 AM
Oct 2023

How the heck is that supposed to work if they all want equity?

When you consider attrition rates that’s a terrible idea.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
9. This sounds like nonsense to me
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:22 PM
Oct 2023

The league has a very well defined (and long negotiated) salary cap structure.

Within that salary cap structure is a fairly well defined amount of money allowed for players.

Equity would be nearly impossible to quantify as part of the monetary calculations. For the most part, these teams are not publicly traded so they have no strict valuation beyond what a magazine says they are worth.

It would be a total mess.

Kid Berwyn

(14,908 posts)
11. Putting the Brinks armored car before the victory parade, wot?
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:30 PM
Oct 2023

Pat Mahomes is taking home $37.1 million from a $224.8 million team salary pool -- that's 16.5% of the payroll for 53 players.

Poor Matt Stafford's only making $20 million this year. A bargain.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/quarterback/

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
12. I would think the NFL and Teams would tell him he's not worth it
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:39 PM
Oct 2023


Such high demands for a little man, I mean what ambition.





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