They have been fighting over Israel for 2,000 years

[LiberaBlueDem]

This is just the latest in a longline of their wars, it may never end.

No use getting too uptight and wanting the wars to continue.
Better we ask for peace and the wars to stop.

[WarGamer]

1. 2000?

[RockRaven]

2. Depending on who "they" is, that number might not be quite right...

[msongs]

3. 3000 or even more nt

[Crunchy Frog]

15. It's a busy part of the world. Basically at the crossroads

between Africa and Eurasia. It's been occupied by virtually every empire that ever existed in the region.

It's been inhabited by members of the genus "homo" for nearly 2 million years.

[Elessar Zappa]

4. Hamas can choose to stop killing Israeli civilians anytime they like.

Until then, war will necessarily continue.

[nycbos]

9. Yup

[AntivaxHunters]

11. Israel snipers can choose to stop murdering innocent Palestinians

It's a 2 way street.

[link:https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children|]

Notice the date?
This only ends when the violence ends & murder on both sides ends.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

17. And what

Were these children doing? I mean, Israeli soldiers just killed them for no reason?

For me,
Human Rights Watch has proven themselves an unreliable source when it comes to anything related to Israel.

[AntivaxHunters]

18. HRW is fine

They hold everyone accountable and they were a BIG get when they endorsed Hillary in 2016. In fact that endorsement was everywhere.

Many innocent Palestinian kids have been murdered by Israeli snipers. It's been happening awhile. You may find this article interesting as it mentions some of the victims & what happened to them [link:https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_sniper_kills_14_year_old_palestinian_boy_in_jenin|]

I just want it all to end.
It's truly sad what's happening....

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. You're entitled to your opinion

As I am to mine.

I’ll not waste my time on any HRW writings that involve Israel, as they have proven to be heavily biased against Israel.

[AntivaxHunters]

24. LoL ok.

[Xolodno]

21. This part...

"For me,
Human Rights Watch has proven themselves an unreliable source when it comes to anything related to Israel."


So they are fine in other conflict areas? Just not Israel because they call out your "team"? Maybe we should ignore everything in Ukraine and Russia? The Balkan war? And many other areas?

This is why comments like this get the roll of the eyes.

[AntivaxHunters]

25. It's funny

I mean I'd pretty much expect a humans right org like HRW to be critical of a government that's run by a corrupt fascist far right leader; Netanyahu. Sounds a lot like someone we all know, eh?

[no_hypocrisy]

5. It's a challenge to make arbitrary borders when

two different cultures claim that God gave THEM the land, excluding the other -- and there's no way to prove it.

[walkingman]

6. Imagine No Religion

[Elessar Zappa]

8. This is only about religion on one side.

Israel isn’t fighting for Judaism, they’re fighting for the Jewish people. Many Jews are atheist, agnostic or otherwise secular.

[marybourg]

10. In fact, the founders of Israel were

largely secular European socialists. It was about a homeland for people who had been displaced, and abused in other lands.

[malaise]

14. My only anthem

😀

[Celerity]

28. Lady Gaga - Imagine (Live at Baku 2015 European Games Opening Ceremony)

[malaise]

29. An absolutely beautiful version

Thanks 😀😀

[Celerity]

27. +10000000000000000

[treestar]

31. the British drew borders in Africa

and that caused fighting - though we don't hear about it as much. It's just a habit they have when it comes to their empire. It does not always work out well.

[LiberaBlueDem]

7. Ever see the Monty Python's: Life of Bryan

They were fighting then

[Crunchy Frog]

12. Who are "they"?

2000 years ago it was occupied by the Roman Empire. I don't think they're a player in this current mess.

[Happy Hoosier]

13. Oh yeah! Sure!!

Just ask for peace!!! No one ever thought of THAT before!

[LiberaBlueDem]

16. Actually

Demand peace. Is that a crime?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. Both side have to be willing

And only one side is

[LiberaBlueDem]

22. Hamas has to be crushed

Hamas' biggest supporter is a leader of Israel

The most powerful makes it not a both side affair. You can throw out the both side arguments.

[Xolodno]

23. For a long time, it was considered nothing-ville.

Even Jerusalem was just a pit stop for trade routes and at times, abandoned. The Jebusites actually developed the area, but the leaders eventually became unpopular. At the same time King David had a problem in Hebron, a good portion of his army were mercenaries and not Hebrew, so there was some conflict. Add that former King Saul's capital was Gibeah and only three miles for Jerusalem, David took advantage of the situation.

Result, more cosmopolitan city where his mercenary forces wouldn't be a problem and a base where he could stamp down on any chance of Saul's house coming up again.

The problem came later when the Temple was built and the main bank for the nation, suddenly it was a major target with all that gold, silver, etc. there. Now, its houses religious sites of three major religions. Every place you step in that city has probably had blood spilled on it.

Hence, why I'm not interested in visiting the pile of rubble, no worries of me getting Jerusalem Syndrome, that's for sure.

[Chainfire]

26. I guess that if they have been doing it that long it is OK.

[LiberaBlueDem]

32. No, not okay

But it is usual for so many to want to keep war alive.

[dalton99a]

30. Only climate change can bring an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

by rendering the whole area uninhabitable

And then they will start killing each other somewhere else