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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJugging question. Youtube has several posts of Juggin incidents, mostly in Texas.
Three come to mind. One involved $7k, withdrawn from a bank. Another, 9K. And a third, the woman walked out of the bank with $76k. She was robbed and the police suspect a teller notified the robbers that an amount of money was walking out of the bank.
So ---
Why, da fuck would anyone walk out of a bank with a large amount of cash. Drugs? Buying a car where seller will not accept a check?
RockRaven
(15,104 posts)And not just because the transaction that the money is meant for is illicit in itself. Maybe one of the parties in the transaction is undocumented or doesn't have a relationship with a bank or has some other reason to not wish for a record of the transaction to exist.
Or maybe the withdrawer was being conned, or manipulated just to enable the theft.
Bucky
(54,103 posts)I drive down that street on the way home from work. Damn.
I gotta go cash-free, right after I do my next mushroom purchase.
eShirl
(18,510 posts)what is Jugging, or was that a typo?
3Hotdogs
(12,475 posts)eShirl
(18,510 posts)Xavier Breath
(3,688 posts)"Jugging" is " crime where a suspect observes a customer at a bank or high-end store and then follows the customer after they leave the establishment in order to steal their money or valuables. I would have thought "mugging" would have sufficed, but I just now became familiar with the term so perhaps I'm not yet attuned to all the subtleties and nuances of it.
MagickMuffin
(15,985 posts)This happened recently. It is truly a frightening situation for those involved. Check out this video.
dembotoz
(16,866 posts)the seller does not want a check
3Hotdogs
(12,475 posts)In the cop shop parking lot safer for both parties.
yagotme
(3,037 posts)edisdead
(1,967 posts)Someone got robbed and the accusation is that the person who got robbed is up to something illegal.
Kaleva
(36,407 posts)or to leave your keys in the ignition.
Just because something is legal to do doesn't mean it's prudent or wise
edisdead
(1,967 posts)You are right in that none of those things are smart.
My comment is regarding the assumption that someone is doing something illegal. In this day and age it just seems that we always look to find blame for the victim. The story is about people robbing people. And for some reason we want to go deeper and assume the victim somehow deserved it because they were going to do something illegal anyway. Very she was asking for it in my opinion.
Iggo
(47,603 posts)Dont be robbable and you wont get robbed. If you are and you get robbed, its your fault and I can feel better about myself knowing that you got robbed because you broke the rules.
Works for other things, too. Like wearing a miniskirt, or driving-while-black, or being a child in a war zone.
Shit happens only if you let it.
Dont have that.
Dont wear that.
Dont do that.
Dont be that.
If you do, its your fucking fault.
3Hotdogs
(12,475 posts)Not illegal but not the best idea.
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)Woman left paralyzed after robber body slammed her to the ground, suspect still wanted
By Natalie Hee
Published March 12, 2023
HOUSTON - Houston police say they need the publics help identifying a suspect who violently robbed a woman and left her paralyzed.
On Feb. 13, Houston police say Nhung Truong was attacked by a Black man in his early 20s in what officials believe was a jugging incident.
Investigators say Truong had withdrawn money from the Bank of America on Blackhawk Blvd near the Beltway and was followed by the suspect nearly 24 miles away to a shopping center on the 9800 block of Bellaire.
Surveillance video shows Truong dropping her belongings on the ground and the man running away with what he thought was an envelope with cash. Seconds later, the suspect returned, picked Truong up, and body-slammed her to the ground.
The attack damaged the 44-year-olds spinal cord and left her paralyzed, unable to walk or use the bathroom by herself. Instead, the single mom has to rely on a wheelchair and help from her three kids who are 13, 15, and 20-years-old and still in school.
The family tells FOX 26 the suspect stole about $4,300 from them. Truong had apparently been saving up to visit her family in Vietnam that she hadn't seen in nearly six years.
ecstatic
(32,814 posts)The conspiracies about the banking system about to fail etc etc
Edited: Actually now that I think about it, my sister was going to the Dominican Republic to get surgery and they only accepted cash. I was furious that she was expected to walk around with that much cash on hand. I thought it was foolish and risky but luckily everything turned out okay. She had over $8,000 cash on her. Made it through TSA as well without an issue.
Iggo
(47,603 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)It was a reputable local roofing company that my neighbors recommended so I was more worried about carrying it around and having it in the house for a couple days than I was about paying primarily cash.
Also, some years back when my sister and b-i-l were adopting a baby from China, they needed to bring $10,000+ in cash with them to pay the orphanage and they needed a bunch of hundred dollar bills (along with boxes of Frango Mints) to grease palms.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Are you going to attack any of the women for what they're wearing, too?
Lots of reasons for getting a great deal of cash:
(1) Minority and immigrant communities tend not to trust checks or credit cards. They trust cash. The bigger the sticker price, the more they prefer cash.
(2) Ever have your car break down in a rural area where the nearest "town" with a capable mechanic has about 1500 residents? About 4 years ago, my mum did, and the repair wasn't cheap for her three-letter luxurymobile. She had to deal with a small town mechanic who didn't take credit cards, or out-of-area checks. Guess what she needed to get her vehicle out of the shop? That's right. Cold, hard cash.
(3) Garage sales, private sales and some local Craigslist/eBay transactions are often done in cash, including for things like furniture. Most of these sellers don't have credit card capability and they may be leery of checks. You'd be surprised how much used furniture moves via in-person cash transactions in the US.
(4) When traveling to certain countries, American cash can make certain products more affordable or grease palms for better service/amenities in a way that local currency cannot. Former citizens visiting the old country or savvy travelers all know to have a good portion of cash on hand for such things.
(5) Sometimes people need to provide financial assistance to *that* friend or relative who doesn't have a bank account (or refuses to get one). Guess what works when other things don't? C-A-S-H.
Those are just a few reasons people could have for carrying around a bunch of cash. So don't automatically assume such withdrawals are for drugs, unless you know for a fact that the person is a druggie.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)I have a disabled friend who could get thrown off some or all of his benefits if a big chunk of cash showed up in his bank account. He's always needing financial help (nobody gets rich off disability), but it can't be "direct" help in the form of a bank deposit. Some of us will go with him to do the paying for him, but, back when I was a working stiff, sometimes I had only enough time to go to the bank for a withdrawal to give him the cash to pay for what he needed.
So that's what I did. It wasn't to pay for drugs. Sometimes, it was to pay for stuff like a new bed when his fell apart. Or there was that one time I had to fork over a very big chunk of change when some tosser broke into his apartment, and, finding nothing really worth nicking, destroyed his art supplies in retaliation. That mattered because my friend does free-lance commercial art to supplement his meager disability income. It was a devastating loss for him. We're talking thousands of dollars in art/drafting supplies and a light board and one of those tilting desks and so on. He came to me after I got home from work in the morning (I worked graveyard shift). He thought I'd only pitch in for some of it, but I had the cash on hand to pay for it all, just sign over the insurance check to me when you get it. So we went to my credit union, he got the money, and I went home to get some much-needed sleep.
So don't you dare call that getting cash to buy drugs. It was giving that man his dignity back, and I'd do it all over again the exact same way, a million times over.