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radicalleft

(485 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 01:19 AM Oct 2023

Took me about three hours to read this.

I am posting without comment and will return later to see what others think; if you care to take the time to read it...

Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem: 1917-1947 (Part I)

The origins of the Palestine problem as an international issue, however, lie in events occurring towards the end of the First World War. These events led to a League of Nations decision to place Palestine under the administration of Great Britain as the Mandatory Power under the Mandates System adopted by the League. In principle, the Mandate was meant to be in the nature of a transitory phase until Palestine attained the status of a fully independent nation, a status provisionally recognized in the League’s Covenant, but in fact the Mandate’s historical evolution did not result in the emergence of Palestine as an independent nation.

https://www.un.org/unispal/history2/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/part-i-1917-1947/

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Took me about three hours to read this. (Original Post) radicalleft Oct 2023 OP
KNR and bookmarking. For later. Thank you for posting this. niyad Oct 2023 #1
K & R for visibility Celerity Oct 2023 #2
For comparison: same history from a different source Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #3
Thanks for this. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #6
I was wondering about this too radicalleft Oct 2023 #7
I read it. pfitz59 Oct 2023 #4
I've read the first few paragraphs so far and found wnylib Oct 2023 #5

ShazzieB

(17,902 posts)
6. Thanks for this.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 11:56 AM
Oct 2023

Unfortunately, the link you posted seems to have some problems. There's a note at the top of the page that says: "This website is no longer actively maintained. Some material and features may be unavailable."

It looks Iike the material you linked to may not be there anymore. I dug around a bit and found what looks like the first 2 portions of the original article:
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/uncategorized/timeline-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-intro/2766/
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/uncategorized/timeline-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-through-1914/2768/

As you can see, these links only cover through 1919. If the rest of the material is there somewhere, I can't find it. If I am missing something, please let me kow, because I'd love to read it all.

pfitz59

(10,712 posts)
4. I read it.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 03:23 AM
Oct 2023

Very detailed analysis. Gave me background that helps me understand "Exodus" better. Offers no solution to present problem.

wnylib

(23,567 posts)
5. I've read the first few paragraphs so far and found
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 04:32 AM
Oct 2023

a couple historical inaccuracies that make me mistrust the rest of the report. Those inaccuracies and an instance of glossing over some details make it seem like the report was commissioned by a coalition of Britons and Palestinians to produce their version of history.

The first inaccuracy was the claim that Jews had abandoned Palestine for 2000 years of a "diaspora" and then decided to return to claim the land. The "diaspora" of Jews living in Europe existed at the same time that ancient Israel existed. Some Jews of ancient Israel settled in southern European ports because they did merchant and manufacturing businesses there with other nations of the Mediterranean region. They regarded Israel as their homeland. Over the centuries, their descendants grew and spread farther into Europe.

When Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 CE and again in the 2nd century CE due to a Jewish rebellion against Rome, Jews fled from Jerusalem but did NOT leave Israel. There is a popular, inaccurate view that the Jews of Europe originated as refugees from the "destruction of Israel" by Rome. Some Christian churches have taught that version of history to support their claim that God punished Jews for not accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

Historical records and archaeology demonstrate that Jewish descendants remained in Palestine continuously throughout the centuries of Roman rule and afterward.

So Jews did not abandon Israel for 2000 years and then try to return to claim it. But, the number of Jewish refugees from Europe did increase substantially after the Holocaust. They joined the Jews already living there. They had no place else to go.

The second inaccuracy was the gloss over statement that Jewish violence led Britain to turn the matter of Palestine over to the UN. That is not the whole story. As tensions built up between Jewish refugees and Palestinians in British Palestine, Britain favored the Palestinians in decisions and in police actions. The Jews in Palestine responded with attacks on British sites. They sent warnings to evacuate, and then destroyed the buildings of British magistrates. They armed themselves to protect against Palestinian attacks on Jewish homes and settlements.

Britain botched their governance of Palestine, promising both Palestinians and Jews a homeland state in the region, then reneging on the Jewish promise and favoring Palestinians. Jewish survivors of the Holocaust were not about to give up without a fight.






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