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(151,391 posts)DFW
(55,956 posts)But you will have to wait until January 3, 2025.
CaliforniaPeggy
(151,391 posts)KS Toronado
(18,745 posts)DFW
(55,956 posts)My elder granddaughter is not completely recovered from missile blasts going off near hotel. She is having trouble sleeping, as is her 9 year old half brother.
My daughter snd her two girls are driving up from Frankfurt this weekend. Ill find out firdt hand how much of her experience dhe is carrying around with her. My daughter said she is drawing pictures about it, which is a good thing. Keeping it locked up inside is not. My father-in-law did that with Stalingrad, and it drove him mad in his last two months of life.
DFW
(55,956 posts)Two of the children are still have trouble sleeping, but they are not clamming up about it, and expressing their fear outwardly, which is a sign that they are dealing with it, and not keeping it bottled up inside for explosion at a later time. They have strong family support, so I think they'll be OK. My daughter and her two girls are driving up from Frankfurt this weekend, so I'll get to see first hand.
soldierant
(7,654 posts)But strange things happen. Contrary to what I am reading (and y'all propbably are too), 217 votes might not be needed. That actual rule is "a mojority of those present and voting." Hakeem received 212 votes today. Scalise received 113 and Jordan 99. 113 + 99 is 212. If just one of those Republican had voted "Present" Hakeem would now be speaker. I agree it's unlikely, but I do believe Republicans are dumb enough that it's not impossible.
DFW
(55,956 posts)But it's still, as you noted, highly unlikely. One thing the Republicans slipped into their rules when McCarcrash got in last January, that they would DEARLY regret if Jeffries were to get in by their own bumbling, is that the one vote rule stated that a speaker's rule could be challenged by one vote from the Speaker's own party.
They did that, of course, so that no lone Democrat could constantly challenge the sitting Republican Speaker. However, IF Jeffries were to get the Speaker's gavel, by their own rule, no Republican could challenge him.
Oops.
AdamGG
(1,395 posts)Need to GOTV for Sherrod Brown & Jon Tester.
DFW
(55,956 posts)Jon Tester has done a great job in the Senate for the people of Montana. That some nut case right winger is even a serious contender to unseat him is a poor testimony to our political (un-) awareness.
Emile
(27,781 posts)Bayard
(23,606 posts)Bettie
(16,762 posts)are from the discount rack at Burlington Coat Factory....looking at you, Gym Jordan.
OMGWTF
(4,321 posts)True Blue American
(18,097 posts)csziggy
(34,179 posts)True Blue American
(18,097 posts)csziggy
(34,179 posts)True Blue American
(18,097 posts)But DU does!
Boomerproud
(8,262 posts)nt
FraDon
(524 posts)a mere five rational Republicans to create their own majority?
usonian
(12,380 posts)AND IM BROKE.
Glorfindel
(9,876 posts)Finding five rational Republicans is the modern-day equivalent to finding the philosopher's sone. Such a thing simply does not exist.
Autumn
(45,803 posts)usonian
(12,380 posts)bdamomma
(65,171 posts)the grown ups to take charge. But I don't think Jeffries is interested, but I could be wrong. Jeffries is steady as she goes.
Marcuse
(7,874 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(10,250 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,793 posts)As a Canadian, I'd only heard of him in passing until the vote that put McCarthy in the Speaker's chair. What process occurs that decides who in the Democratic Party is nominated for Speaker? In Canada, any MP except party leaders or ministers can throw their hat in the ring for Speaker of the House of Commons.
Solomon
(12,454 posts)CrispyQ
(37,625 posts)DCCid
(3 posts)In the US, the full house (435 seats) is up for election in November of every even numbered year. The new house organizes in January of every odd numbered year. A speaker is elected by the majority party using the same process the GOP is using now. If the same party controls the new house, they usually just reelect the previous speaker. I am assuming that the majority party has at least 218 seats (over 50% of 435).
I recently read that the speaker does not have to be a congressperson. I so not know for sure if the is true; although Trump recently volunteered.
KS Toronado
(18,745 posts)BumRushDaShow
(138,059 posts)this happened -
By Lindsey McPherson
Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:06pm
New York Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, whom several Democratic colleagues view as a potential future speaker, narrowly won an intraparty contest for House Democratic Caucus chair Wednesday against California Rep. Barbara Lee. The vote was 123-113.
Jeffries, who currently serves as one of three co-chairs of the Democratic Policy and Communications Committee, the caucuss messaging arm, now ascends to the No. 5 leadership slot. The caucus chair race was the first vote House Democrats took Wednesday in their leadership elections for the 116th Congress that are expected to last late into the evening and potentially into Thursday.
The remaining votes will be held in order of seniority of the positions: speaker, majority leader, majority whip, assistant leader, caucus vice chair, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chair, DPCC chair, three DPCC co-chairs, caucus representative for a member serving five or fewer terms and freshman caucus representative.
Jeffries and Lee are both members of the Congressional Black Caucus, and their contest provided a tough choice for their colleagues within that group. The CBC traditionally values seniority thats even how the caucus lists its members on its website and Lee has served seven terms more than Jeffries. But several CBC members backing Jeffries said the opportunity for him to rise in leadership, potentially one day becoming the first black speaker, was among the reasons they voted for him.
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https://rollcall.com/2018/11/28/hakeem-jeffries-wins-democratic-caucus-chair-race-against-barbara-lee/
After this, Pelosi was elected Speaker, Steny Hoyer Majority Leader, Jim Clyburn Majority Whip + the various Caucus chairs.
Subsequently they went through the same process in 2020 (done "virtually" due to the pandemic) - https://www.dems.gov/newsroom/press-releases/house-democrats-successfully-conclude-first-ever-virtual-leadership-elections
And then in 2022, after losing the House, Democrats rejiggered some positions and started a transition to what we see today with Jeffries being elected the Minority Leader https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-democrats-will-elect-new-generation-leaders-wednesday-rcna58977-
ColinC
(9,968 posts)CrispyQ
(37,625 posts)We have so much competency on our side, I'm sure Lee would have been good too, but I'm glad to see the young guard taking the reins!
True Blue American
(18,097 posts)Jeffries was in the Leadership Council
Gore1FL
(21,632 posts)They would make it fail to make the Democrat fail; it's what they do.
We'd be better to strike a deal with a Republican Speaker where the House would function from a strictly governance standpoint for the next couple of years.
DFW
(55,956 posts)A few of the Republican congresscritters are from swing districts, and if they can bring home a little bacon for their districts during a Jeffries-led House, I think there'd be the necessary amount of aisle-crossing to get them to lend us a few votes when we need them. If they saw an uphill battle toward re-election under an extremist Republican Speaker who they fear would drag them down (and do nothing for their districts), they would prefer a rational Democratic Speaker to whom they would be only loosely politically tied, but could nevertheless say, "see? We can work with him if necessary for the good of the people of our district." All politics is still local, at the end of the day. A rational Democratic Speaker could be of vastly more help to a Republican Rep in a swing district than a Republican Speaker who probably couldn't find that rep's state on the map.
republianmushroom
(16,524 posts)czarjak
(12,177 posts)calimary
(83,478 posts)that my Indivisible group issues every weekend for the new week.
Lets call it a coalition government with Jeffries at the helm in Congress. The Repubs have a squeaker of a majority, and theyre either too busy pie-fighting each other or tying all their shoelaces together to get any actual business done.
Emile
(27,781 posts)for their dysfunction.
calimary
(83,478 posts)These pathetic schmucks havent a clue. And never will.
Emile
(27,781 posts)everyday spewing that bullshit lie.
CapnSteve
(249 posts)NowsTheTime
(834 posts)EnergizedLib
(1,980 posts)Sadly, I dont think thatll happen until our side has the House again.