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AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:20 PM Oct 2023

Amazon's Alexa has been claiming the election was stolen




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Amid concerns the rise of artificial intelligence will supercharge the spread of misinformation comes a wild fabrication from a more prosaic source: Amazon’s Alexa, which declared that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.
Asked about fraud in the race — in which President Biden defeated former president Donald Trump with 306 electoral college votes — the popular voice assistant said it was “stolen by a massive amount of election fraud,” citing Rumble, a video streaming service favored by conservatives.


The 2020 races were “notorious for many incidents of irregularities and indications pointing to electoral fraud taking place in major metro centers,” according to Alexa, referencing Substack, a subscription newsletter service. Alexa contended that Trump won Pennsylvania, citing “an Alexa answers contributor.”


Multiple investigations into the 2020 election have revealed no evidence of fraud, and Trump faces federal criminal charges connected to his efforts to overturn the election. Yet Alexa disseminates misinformation about the race, even as parent company Amazon promotes the tool as a reliable election news source to more than 70 million estimated users.

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Amazon's Alexa has been claiming the election was stolen (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP
Who input this garbage into Alexa lexicon? Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #1
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #2
I like that for a bumper sticker /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #4
there is no devil. edisdead Oct 2023 #16
It's a figure of speech. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #18
AI never answered my questions with facts. All it does is generalize & hedge. I tell it is is wrong. bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #3
An earlier thread on this subject was interesting. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #5
+1 Kaleva Oct 2023 #7
Wow, that is kinda terrifying. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #8
Isn't that the way it's always been? Kaleva Oct 2023 #9
There definitely is no truth in AI, just pattern recognition Silent3 Oct 2023 #19
At times I get right wing ads here on DU edisdead Oct 2023 #17
I just asked Alexa and it said Biden won the 2020 election Kaleva Oct 2023 #6
🤬 Duppers Oct 2023 #10
I just asked, "Alexa was the 2020 presidential election stolen?" Chainfire Oct 2023 #11
Don't know much about Alexa. (i do know what it is though) bluestarone Oct 2023 #12
Alexa is just a voice controlled computer terminal that does a Google search to answer questions Chainfire Oct 2023 #14
I asked ChatGPT AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #13
well, good. at least you didn't get the same response some alexa users are getting nt orleans Oct 2023 #15
I just tried it too. Got the same answer. lpbk2713 Oct 2023 #20
When my wife and I sat down for dinner, I asked the qustion a little differently and got a far more Chainfire Oct 2023 #21

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
3. AI never answered my questions with facts. All it does is generalize & hedge. I tell it is is wrong.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:33 PM
Oct 2023

It apologizes and tries again. It's still wrong. It's always wrong.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
5. An earlier thread on this subject was interesting.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:46 PM
Oct 2023

A few Duer's asked the same quastion to their Alexa devices and got responses that clearly stated Biden as the winner.

I suspect that Alexa probably uses one's personal data, like browsing results, to formulate their responses. If you are prone to reading conspiracy theories on RW propanda outlets, it would not shock me if you'll get a response that affirms your world view.

Sky Jewels

(7,110 posts)
8. Wow, that is kinda terrifying.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:54 PM
Oct 2023

There is no "truth" in the world of AI, only content to fit your existing biases.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
9. Isn't that the way it's always been?
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 03:14 PM
Oct 2023

Newspapers back in the day were very biased and slanted the stories to advance their own agenda

Silent3

(15,219 posts)
19. There definitely is no truth in AI, just pattern recognition
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 04:35 PM
Oct 2023

As far as I know, no one has built epistemological models into AI systems.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
6. I just asked Alexa and it said Biden won the 2020 election
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 02:53 PM
Oct 2023

It gave the percentage of the popular vote each candidate got and the number of Electoral College votes each received.

No mention of fraud.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
11. I just asked, "Alexa was the 2020 presidential election stolen?"
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 03:54 PM
Oct 2023

The answer was, "Sorry, I am not able to answer that."

The answer should have been something like, "The election was challenged in the courts, it has been exhaustively investigated by dozens of entities, and there is not evidence that the election was unfair, or "Stolen."

bluestarone

(16,972 posts)
12. Don't know much about Alexa. (i do know what it is though)
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 04:03 PM
Oct 2023

After it answered, could you ask it WHY it's unable to answer that?

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
14. Alexa is just a voice controlled computer terminal that does a Google search to answer questions
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 04:13 PM
Oct 2023

verbally. It is useful for, "Alexa, how long does it take to boil an egg, or Alexa what temp do I cook pork to." Perhaps, "Alexa, play NPR news." I use it in the kitchen when I have my hands full of goo.

Alexa is always listening for the word "Alexa" to wake up and take questions. (we hope) In theory, without the key word, it remains "asleep."

The answer, or lack of answer given about the election tells the politics of those who controls the service.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
20. I just tried it too. Got the same answer.
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 05:22 PM
Oct 2023


"I'm not able ..." to me implies "I'm not allowed to ..."


Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
21. When my wife and I sat down for dinner, I asked the qustion a little differently and got a far more
Sat Oct 7, 2023, 06:02 PM
Oct 2023

meaningful reply. The second time I asked, "Alexa, were the 2020 elections free and fair?" The response was what you should expect, quoting the challenges and failure to find fraud that could have affected the outcome.

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