Will the GOP actually elect Gym Jordan Speaker?

[617Blue]

So news comes this morning that Dump is all in on Jordan as next Speaker.

Jordan is a dolt - uniformed, disorganized and inarticulate. His "oversight" hearings have been a joke to the point where even some in the RW mediasphere have been asking "where's the beef"? These hearings are such a sham that they have actually turned into somewhat of a boon for Dems. He's terrible on TV. The man is 2 cans shy of a 6 pack.

I think people here are in two camps. regarding Jordan. Some think it would be too dangerous to have this loon as Speaker. I'm in a different camp. I think the craziness of the GOP should be splayed out in the open - for all to see. Let the public see the kind of people who now lead the world's second oldest political party.

Jordan as Speaker completes the devolution of the GOP into a cult of consipracy and misinformation. I heartily endorse Gym Jordan for Speaker.

[brooklynite]

1. Republicans need an absolute majority (217 with current vacancies) to elect a Speaker

They have 221, so any 5 defections can block a candidate.

[617Blue]

6. I'm wondering if anyone can get a majority.

I don't think the ultra MAGA loons would block Jordan but maybe some of the smarter members would see that this guy ain't fit for the job.

[Alpeduez21]

13. They might

They might also think a speaker is needed and vote for Jordan over any compromise candidate that dems might vote for. Party over country is more important than anything

[emulatorloo]

10. +

[walkingman]

2. It would fit their model perfectly and he has been endorsed by the "Orange God".

[FalloutShelter]

3. Jordan is an insurrectionist.

Maybe THE insurrectionist in Congress.
The coup continues.

[Zambero]

27. Liz Cheney quite correctly made that observation

"You did this!", to Jordan's face on January 6th.

[Autumn]

4. The problem is that much of the GOP voters love the craziness of the GOP. The

crazier and more hateful they are the more voters like them.

[Elessar Zappa]

12. Yeah but they can't win with just GOP voters.

Every election, there’s 5-10% of the voters, so-called swing voters or “independents” (I just think they’re uninformed idiots) who are available for either party. They’re not into the lunatics of the GOP. They’re the ones who will swing the election in favor of the Democrats if the GOP doesn’t drop the craziness.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Expecting the worst has been a good bet for awhile now

My money is on total annihilation.

[Kablooie]

7. Third in place for the presidency.

What could possibly go wrong?

[Emile]

8. Gym Jordan belongs in jail for his involvement with the

insurrection. That said, he is someone Republicans look up to. So yes, they might put this dolt in charge of the house.

[gab13by13]

9. No

[617Blue]

11. I think "cooler" heads will prevail and it will be Scalise

but Dump's endorsement makes Jordan a real possibility. Grab the popcorn.

[honest.abe]

19. Is Scalise any better?

[Zambero]

24. Only marginally

Scalise is also an election denier. While considered as being ideologically to the right of McCarthy, he has supported Ukraine aid in the past, and is perceived as more of an institutionalist than Jordan. Which isn't saying much.

[honest.abe]

25. That may not be crazy enough for the Gaetz gang.

Thanks.

[617Blue]

28. No but he's able to go on TV and seem "normal"

Jordan is 100 percent loon who will be a complete embarrassment.

[Arthur_Frain]

14. As someone else here pointed out

We need to stop not believing that they are going to do exactly what they tell us.

I don’t like Jordan, but we do ourselves a disservice when we underestimate them by saying they’re uninformed, inarticulate and disorganized. They’re none of those things, or they wouldn’t be in that position of authority. It comes out as bushwa to me, but Jordan is articulate enough to communicate his message and get elected over and over again. They’re rather well informed, actually, they’re simply diametrically opposed to everything we are for.

I hate McConnell. Unfortunately he’s sharp as hell, and he’s been hellishly effective packing the courts. I’d love to sit here and dump on him, and call him sick, stupid, and dull, but he will continue to eviscerate us while I do that. We need to counter these guys in an effective manner.

The danger with having the craziness on full display is that many of these rank and file conservative voters are so mentally ill by having fox news on for 30 years, that’s all they respond to anymore is the right wing propaganda machine spewing it’s triggers. Todays version of fox news, (OANN, Newsmax et al) are so much worse than fox ever was, and they’re doing even more damage.

[617Blue]

17. Jordan is not in the same stratosphere as McConnell

I've never called MM dumb. MM is a master of rules and procedure and able to placate members and cultivate relations. He came to congress in a more bipartisan time when these skills were necessary for leadership. Gingrich was not dumb. Jordan is flat out dumb and exists entirely in a the MAGA world. That is his entire unreality.

Jordan is an incompetent buffoon who will damage the GOP if elected Speaker. This is why I want it to happen.

[Arthur_Frain]

18. Again. I dislike Jordan.

Very much. Probably as much as you. I guess we disagree on the outcome should he ascend to the speakership. Jordan was elected to the house in 2006, and re-elected every 2 years after.

That’s not incompetence.

Respectfully I never said you called McConnell anything. I just used him as a parallel.

Peace.

[617Blue]

22. I don't the being elected to congress makes you competent

Particularly in this time of districts gerrymandered beyond recognition. His handling of the oversight committee could not be called anything but incompetent. From the 15 vote speaker election to the events of this week the GOP has demonstrated that they are flying by the seat of their pants. I think you give them too much credit. It's easy to "succeed" if your aim is to just gaslight and there is no accountability to your constituents.

I think we just disagree about how it would turn out.

Peace.

[Mr.Bill]

34. Here's how he gets elected.

Map of his gerrymandered district:

https://www.google.com/search?q=map+of+jim+jordan%27s+district+in+ohio&sca_esv=571492166&source=hp&ei=c9MgZfH8DtSYwbkPkbul8AE&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZSDhg5m56Db2IPXmGOHJOjq6ZCB4UlKk&oq=map+of+jim+jordan%27s+district&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhxtYXAgb2YgamltIGpvcmRhbidzIGRpc3RyaWN0KgIIATIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB5IpHZQAFjcYnABeACQAQCYAdYBoAGiJ6oBBjAuMjYuM7gBAcgBAPgBAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCxAAGIoFGLEDGIMBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjHARjRA8ICERAuGIoFGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgIFEC4YgATCAgsQLhiKBRixAxiDAcICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICAhAmwgIIEAAYigUYhgM&sclient=gws-wiz&bshm=rimc/1

[Golden Raisin]

15. Nothing would surprise me from today's Republicans.

And I wasn't thrilled with Republicans of yore.

[MistakenLamb]

16. they absolutely will

it’s that or face a maga primary.
even those in biden districts will go for jordan

[honest.abe]

20. Is he crazy enough for Gaetz and his goons?

[617Blue]

23. If he ain't no one is. nt

[Polybius]

32. Yes

Gaetz supports him.

[Poiuyt]

21. Question: If Jordan becomes Speaker, does he need to give up his committee chairs?

[Zambero]

26. He'd just weaponize the Speaker position

Oh sorry, I meant to say DE-weaponize it!

[onenote]

35. Traditionally, the Speaker does not chair any committees.

In fact, typically the Speaker does not even serve on committees or participate in floor debate. Would Jordan honor that tradition? Hard to say, but I have trouble seeing him giving up his chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee and of the "weaponization" select subcommittee. If he did give up his Judiciary chairmanship, the roster of possible replacements from on the committee includes some of the worst of the worst: Gaetz, Chip Roy, Andy Biggs, Thomas Massie, Ken Buck, Troy Nehls, Victoria Spartz. None of them currently chair any other committee. Darell Issa is, I believe, the senior member of the committee, but since Jordan got the chairmanship despite being less senior than Issa, I don't think Issa would necessarily replace Jordan.

[Chainfire]

29. I want the Republicans to put a totally ineffective speaker in the position. Jim will do.

Let them choke on their bile.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. Yes, it is possible

[prodigitalson]

31. part of me wants to see it

[Mr.Bill]

33. I think it's going to take a long time

for anyone to get enough votes to be speaker. Too many people on the republican side who really want to just blow everything up. Problem is, the House has some very important business they need to take care of in a few weeks and they have to elect a speaker before they can do it.