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The next speaker wil be a congressperson who can convince all the republicans in the house that they will be happy.
It took McCarthy 15 votes before he could do that. He failed after nine months, so he's out.
I don't think there is anyone who can make all republicans happy
Not in a few weeks or months even. So we will have chaos and more do nothing congress for awhile, which considering the majority and the damage they could do if united, do nothing is good.
The other way is for a few republicans becoming Democrats and voting for Jefferies who can make all the Democrats happy
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WhiteTara
(29,842 posts)they just have to vote that way.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)One thing to think of is that now that trump is almost finished his hold over the magas in congress fades.
EndlessWire
(7,010 posts)But, I question the part that says that Trump is almost finished, and that his hold over MAGA is done. The Repubs have shown that they are spineless, and that they are afraid of Donald "Two Scoops" Trump. There's nothing about this situation that says Donald is done.
The way you tell that Donald is done is to see the cell door clang shut on him. Then, you'll know.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)Could be excess of hope from me, but in congress he is responsible for McCarthy going out and the Dems with just a slight disadvantage. His main boogers in congress are not well liked.
dchill
(39,243 posts)Now all it needs is for Trump to drop out of the running. Plus, some of them would have to develop some courage.
BlueKota
(2,539 posts)I hate him almost as much as tfg and I hate him more than I have ever hated anyone in my life.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)No way he can get any Dem votes and even half the republican
BlueKota
(2,539 posts)He's such smarmy creep.
Polybius
(16,540 posts)McCarthy got zero.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)But Mccarthy is gone and that because he didn't get any Dem votes.
Can you name one repub who can get all repub votes? I can't see any. So, if one can get Dems to vote for him and say 10 repubs, he's in. Dems control this now because the magats made a mess.
Polybius
(16,540 posts)Just a guess, but I think he could get every Republican to vote for him.
Polybius
(16,540 posts)McCarthy didn't get any either.
Think. Again.
(12,566 posts)You write:
"... considering the majority and the damage they could do if united, do nothing is good."
I agree.
We'll be lucky if we just get through the next year and a half with them just putting on their show and staying away from the work part of their jobs.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)But I think a real centrist non-maga will take speakership.
I am hoping it is Jefferies
Think. Again.
(12,566 posts)...next November, we will be a banana republic.
getagrip_already
(15,897 posts)They were the ones who participated in the j6 hearings, or who voted to impeach. They are no longer in the house.
Literally ever gop house member who so much as raised a question of impropriety against the orange gangster was driven out, and the rest were silenced and put in line.
There really aren't any even any partially moderate gop members left.
Sure, some like buck will say there is no evidence to impeach, being in a very swing district, but a quick look at his past rhetoric tells the story of very right wing loon. He's trying to play the crowd wherever he is.
The remaining gop members are all nuts at this point.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)That's why I say Jefferies may be the best hope.
There could be one repub that Jefferies could work with? At least to pass a budget? It is the only hope to get anything done.
getagrip_already
(15,897 posts)Gaetz is actually trying to burn the house down legislative to cover his tracks and prepare for his run for governor.
He doesn't want there to be a speaker, or any business conducted, or a functioning govt.
That plays into his run for gov.
It also keeps the house from expelling him for being a pedo sex trafficker.
But he has accomplices. And unless 5 gop members cross the aisle and vote for Jeffries, he won't be speaker. You will see musk as speaker before jeffries.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)smart or savvy enough to be an effective leader. I am just glad that Republicans don't have a Pelosi waiting in the wings.
Emile
(26,143 posts)LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)Speaker will not be a magat, of that I'm pretty sure
Emile
(26,143 posts)getagrip_already
(15,897 posts)And with scalese suffering from cancer, Santos about to take a plea deal, McCarthy about not to give a fuck and retire, and gaetz likely to toss a molotov cocktail as he resigns to run for FL governor, that could be down to 1.
Tough to get agreement when you can't lose even one vote.
So bad. Not sad. Oh well, time for popcorn.
pwb
(11,896 posts)and still approves of assault weapons.
FlyingPiggy
(3,521 posts)They need to get over this tribalism cult mentality. Its destructive.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)Democrats hold all the cards, really. No republican can make the magas happy, so the Dems will elect the next speaker.
FrankBooth
(1,661 posts)That will not happen, and it's silly to even speculate about it.
I think it'll end up being Stefanik.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,071 posts)It is the best hope. Stefanik can't win all the repubs, I don't think any can and only one who can get Dem votes will win.
FrankBooth
(1,661 posts)Best hope for who? The GOP? I don't think so.
IMO Jeffries would not receive a single GOP vote in the extremely unlikely event he was put up for the speakership. They'll eventually find a way to elect someone without any Dem votes, a la Kevin 15, and Stefanik is as "good" a choice as any of them. IMO, they'd rather go speakerless for the duration of this congress than give Hakeem the speaker position. It's not going to happen.
Polybius
(16,540 posts)You just don't vote for someone that you disagree with on 99% of the issues.
FlyingPiggy
(3,521 posts)Polybius
(16,540 posts)No Republican is voting for Jeffries. It would not make any sense for them to do so.
FlyingPiggy
(3,521 posts)Polybius
(16,540 posts)We will know shortly if he receives any Republican votes.
EndlessWire
(7,010 posts)He's smart, he's funny, he's good looking, and his speaking voice is ear candy. He can hold his own. I haven't heard how he feels about it. I think he can be as good as Pelosi. I read that Pelosi may come back, but this will be done by then.
But, if Donald became Speaker, he'd use the time to campaign. He'd have diarrhea of the mouth continuously, and probably tell the Congress what HE wants. He might cause so much alienation that Repubs would change parties. I think we would have to see what would happen.
tRump is like a cancer. You just have to do something about it. I am not sure if that Rule is right or not, that he can't become Speaker. Guess we'll find out about that, too.
I think our Government is fracturing right in front of our faces. I dislike Gaetz so much. Interesting how Donald is praising Marjorie Traitor Greene instead of Gaetz. But, she sucked up in a way that Gaetz can't.
BlueKota
(2,539 posts)if it could. Someone on FB Occupy Democrats page suggested someone should nominate Liz Cheney. just to get their 🐐 . She would never get elected, but it sure would be funny to watch.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,450 posts)She proved she can reach across the aisle. Or the lap, whichever is closer.