'Trump is Cornered and Could Soon Flee the Country'

[Joinfortmill]

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/08/25/trump-is-cornered-and-could-soon-flee-the-country/
Heidi Siegmund Cuda



So, this writer is new to me. I found this when I googled "when is trump gonna flee", because I'm convinced he's not going to hang around to go to prison. It's a long read, but she's pretty good. If you know her, please let us know. (my words)

'“If you go after me, I’m coming after you.” - Donald J. Trump...I begin with Roger Stone because Trump does not exist as a politician without Stone — who worked with him for 40 years and had plotted multiple potential runs with him for the presidency. Trump also does not exist without his former personal lawyer Roy Cohn — who also represented mob bosses in all five of New York’s boroughs. In addition to mentoring Trump, Cohn also mentored Stone. Cohn taught them the ‘deny, deny, deny’ strategy and to never admit defeat...In addition, Trump does not exist in his current form without Paul Manafort, his former campaign manager. He took the job working for Trump for free after he had finished installing a Putin-friendly leader in Ukraine — Viktor Yanukovych. It was a presidency that ended with Yanukovych fleeing to Moscow with dozens of his closest associates. He was later convicted of treason against Ukraine...

I’ve been thinking about how this story of the Trumpocene ends, and since 2017, I have predicted Trump — who to Putin is just another Yanukovych — will likely flee with 40 of his best cronies to Moscow....Ex-federal agent Martin Sheil says I’ve got the right idea but the wrong location...“Russia does not have enough golf courses to keep Donald entertained”, he told Byline Times... He said the better question to ask is will Trump flee to the UAE? ...“Trump owns a golf course in Dubai which is also a leading global money-laundering center,” Sheil said... “So Trump can take his money and his golf clubs to a warm weather safe haven where it is not believed the UAE retains a viable extradition treaty with the US.”'

[Walleye]

1. Wouldn't be surprised if he got his own hour show on Russian state TV, wherever he goes

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

2. She' stupid

He can try to go, but

a) His plane doesn't have enough juice to get him to very many countries without extradition treaties. Russia is about it. Even if he could get to most of the non-extradition countries, a country not having an extradition agreement doesn't mean they wouldn't send him back. They can still do it--and probably would, because they don't like him anymore than he likes them. That's what happens when you call those countries s**tholes.

b) He's a malignant narcissist, and he won't run away because he knows it will make him look bad. If he's even considered that, give that he really believes he's so much smarter than everyone else that he will beat this thing. He'll think it until he's behind bars.

Everyone needs to stop running around with their hair on fire about him leaving. He's not going anywhere.

[niyad]

6. Some people are actually looking forward to him fleeing, not panicking

about it. Since his passport has not yet been revoked, he can go. Get somebody to fly him.. clarence has lots of buddies with planes. Stop over. Change planes, as needed. Land in saudi arabia, ruzzia, north korea.


None of us can predict, with certainty, what he will do. Yes, he tells himself that he is the smartest person in the room, but a person who, however incorrectly, truly believed that, would not have to repeat it endlessly. And he is a gutless coward.

I will not be surprised at anthing he does. Disgusted, appalled, sickened, perhaps, but never surprised.

[Thunderbeast]

9. Does not need his own plane...

Saudis have a way to get him out.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/erry-2018/12/9b5b1eff724150/he-was-accused-of-killing-a-po.html

[SeattleVet]

21. Similar to the way they got Jamal Kashaggi out of the embassy?

[PJMcK]

49. That would solve a lot of problems (n/t)

[onetexan]

50. THIS!!☝️😁

I'd love it if the Con did make a run for it. This way they can lock him up. OR he'd forever be a wanted fugitive.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Saudis and Putin have foreign intelligence services which can extract agents if need be.

The US does it all the time.

[TheBlackAdder]

64. A little bone saw action and they can carry him out in a few suitcases.

[brewens]

17. I can't see him bailing and thinking he'd have the lifestyle he's used to. Then it's like witness

protection too. He can't trust anyone outside the country. Not for ever.

I imagine his family would be screwed too. With him on the lam, who wants to protect them? They'd be nothing and wind up behind bars. I think it would be more likely anyway.

[Irish_Dem]

33. You have to factor in that Trump may have to do what his minders tell him to do.

[vlyons]

42. OK with me if he leaves, altho I'd prefer him in prison

Fleeing would unquestioningly brand him as a traitor and a coward and LOSER. All of which we already know, but maybe some in his cult will finally get disillusioned with him. His excuse would be that he can't get a fair trail because Biden has rigged the justice system. Whine whine whine.

[wnylib]

48. I think that you are on the mark about what

Trump's excuse would be for fleeing. He'd say that he is a political refugee from false charges in the US

There are other countries that could get him out of the US, but they would only do it if he is of use to them. So, what could he do in another country like UAE or Saudi Arabia that they would benefit from? Does he still have any valuable secret documents or copies of them that another country would benefit from? Once he gets to such a country, would they imprison or kill him once they got the documents?

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. "will likely flee with 40 of his best cronies" - well, no.

Why the hell would Putin want 40 Trump acolytes on his hands? Trump himself can be drained of information to be used, espionage, blackmail etc.. The arselickers are of no use to Putin. And they know they'd start falling out of windows when their uselessness was definite. And Trump wouldn't want 40 people hanging around where he has no power.

There's nothing in the article about what would be the trigger for him fleeing, with or without hangers-on. Just her feeling.

[onetexan]

52. Who knows? Putin might just throw the Con out the window once he's passed his usefulness

[calguy]

4. He's not going to 'flee' the country with a security detail attached to him

I'm sure they've considered this remote possibility and have taken appropriate measures to prevent it.

[Disaffected]

10. I wish folks here would stop claiming that.

He can go wherever he wants as there are no travel restrictions imposed upon him (only perhaps by the country he is trying to enter).

Under what pretext would his "security detail" stop him from international travel?

[calguy]

32. You don't think they have contingency plans in place?

I'm sure they've anticipated anything he might do. There's no way, in my opinion, that someone with his notoriety can sneak off to anywhere. With Putin's standing in the world Russia occupying Ukraine, I don't even he would want the added headache.

[Sky Jewels]

38. I can't help but think that many

of the people going after him would probably be happy if he just left, never to return. It would save them a shit ton of time and aggravation.

I have no information about this, just speculating.

[Disaffected]

58. Yeah, it would be interesting.

There would perhaps be some faint noise made about it and then kinda let it die a natural death.

[Disaffected]

57. I don't know if they do or not.

If they thought he was a flight risk, one would think they would pull his passport or some such thing.

And, as things now stand, he doesn't have to sneak off at all. All he has to do is go on a "business" trip or something to Saudi or UEA or wherever.

I agree thought that he would be unlikely to go to Russia, at least for the long term, but he may make it a stop-over until more agreeable arrangements can be made.

In any case, I suspect most folks, including the DOJ, would just breath a sigh of relief if he flew the coop....

[CTyankee]

5. Hit the road, Jack...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hit+the+road+jack

[LiberalFighter]

7. Would the UAE want anything to do with him when he is going down the drain.

He is likely useless to them if he is not able to go where he wants.

[TheRealNorth]

14. Depends how much dirty business he did with UAE, SA, etc.

I don't think TFG fleeing the country is imminent - but if he knew things that MBS may not want him to spill, I could see TFG being granted asylum, at least until MBS grows tired of him and decides to "take care" of him.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Maybe They Still Believe He's A Billionaire

Forbes does. Of course, they're ignoring the off the books loans from China, Saudi, & Russia that are all public knowledge.
Maybe the Emirates are as easy to fool as Forbes.

[multigraincracker]

8. Anywhere, except the White House.

[Girard442]

11. He won't flee. By the time a rational TFG would have decided flight is the only good option...

...the actual TFG will be so demented, he'll crown himself King of America.

[FakeNoose]

15. Only rational people think about fleeing

... and we don't need to worry about Chump doing anything rational.

Side note: I will not click on this OP link because it looks and sounds skeevy. The poster hasn't furnished the slightest info about the source of this rumor.

[Joinfortmill]

43. This is Martin J. Sheil, the person referrenced in the article who thinks Trump may flee to UAE.

https://www.justsecurity.org/author/sheilmartinj/#:~:text=Guest%20Author-,Martin%20J.,Asset%20Forfeiture%20in%20Washington%2C%20DC.

[Retrograde]

12. Does he have 40 cronies?

Vanky seems to have abandoned him to save herself, I doubt any of his congressional acolytes will give up their government positions and pensions for him when he's no longer useful, and the die-hard magats don't have the resources to follow him (and he's certainly not going to pay for them)

So an article from someone I'm not familiar with in an on-line journal thinks he's going to flee? And has been saying that since 2017? Sounds like wishful thinking to me.

[Mz Pip]

13. He'll start a civil war before he flees

I don’t think he’s taking this seriously. He’s counting on one juror to give him a hung jury. If he does get convicted he’ll call on his minions to save him.

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. He's not going to flee

That article is just silly speculation.

First, his ego won’t allow it.

Second, if he did, his assets would be at risk of seizure or being frozen

Third, what’s to stop Seal Team Six from “extraditing” Trump from UAE?

[ProfessorGAC]

19. The Constitution?

Posse Comitatus is the law of the land, and is until another law supercedes it.
TFG's troubles are all within the purview of law enforcement & justice.
Can't use the military to enforce the law, even if they're a fugitive from justice.
Somebody like bin Laden openly declared himself an enemy at war with the US. He made himself a military target.
TFG leaving the country would not.
I like the idea, but this administration would never break the law like that.

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. He's not going to flee. Nt

[ProfessorGAC]

40. That Changes The Point

I happen to agree with you on that.
But, this reply really has nothing to do with the original point.

[LiberalArkie]

20. Yeah Roy Cohn...Rudi and gang took down the existing mobs in NYC and the Russian Bratva moved

because of the vacuum. Look up the time lines google Bratva. It was formed in 1980.
Founding location Soviet Union
Years active Late 1980s–present
Territory Post-Soviet states, European Union, United States (mostly New York City and Brighton Beach), Canada, Israel, Netherlands, Thailand, Quinton Roo (mostly Gold Coast and Sydney), etc.


Why do the R's do everything they can to defend Russia?

[kimbutgar]

26. What about that Roy Cohn and J Edgar Hoover were both gay and being blackmailed by the mob?

I remember seeing a documentary about Hoover how he turned a blind eye to the mafia because they were blackmailing him about being gay. Cohn was such a POS like Rudi they were/ are both despicable and no wonder they were the orange maggots good friends! Slimy birds of a feather!

[Ligyron]

35. Hoover totally ignoring organized crime other than to say it doesn't exist totally screams ...

something?

The closeted gay angle seems as good an explanation as any.

Just think, if only he were alive today he could be in a Cabinet instead of a closet.

[Traildogbob]

22. There has been

A lot if talk about taking all his assets lately after the New York fraud case. I wonder if they can’t take that big ass trump plane and he has to fly coach on Spirit Airlines to go to his KKKlan Jamborees.

[Martin68]

23. My take on Trump is, and has always been, that he could not survive outside his comfort zone, which

means a few very particular places in the USA. He thrives on recognition and acknowledgement of his power, his wealth, and his "greatness," none of which would follow him to another country. Even if Saudi Arabia, for example, gave him refuge, he'd still be a stranger in a strange land, and would not be getting the respect he believes he deserves. His known dislike of "shithole countries" and his deep-seated racism would make it very hard for him to live elsewhere for very long.

[slightlv]

24. I think the only way he flees is if he loses the next election "big time"

I don't think he wants a do-over of years of another big lie, seeing as how this one never really "took" and the civil war he wanted never really happened. He's closer to jail than he's ever been before. His licenses to do business are closer to being stripped in all of the United States (and possibly world-over) if he stays for all his court appearances. If he loses the bench trial that starts next week, and the judge has already ruled against him on one count, that will factor in... but lets face it, *rump is a narcissistic idiot. Unless you're one, too, you just can't think like him. So, who knows what he'll do? I don't think his kids and family will factor into anything he'll do. He doesn't really care for them. It's all about him. One thing, if he DOES run, it WILL be for the Middle East... not Russia. I think it will be for SA, not UAE, tho. And that's only if they give him special dispensation for his lifestyle. His being Shaitan's lifestyle, not Allah's.

I think him running or not is a 50/50 proposition. Frankly, I wish he would. It actually might solve a few problems. Especially if he took his very special freedom caucus with him!

[Old Crank]

25. Should he flee to UAE

The US, assuming a Democratic President, would put the squeeze on them. And he wouild get shipped home.
Sanctions on a small country that is only an oil state would hurt.

[kimbutgar]

27. He'll go the Saudi Arabia or Russia.

[SayItLoud]

29. Prison...if ever:

Is years YEARS away. He will not outlive the number of appeals he will file.

[Warpy]

30. If he does, and that's a huge "if." my destination guess is the same one

The UAE countries are fairly temperate in winter, hot but with AC in summer, and have extensive golfing facilities. He'd be in his element there, surrounded by dictators and businessmen who absconded with millions that weren't theirs, living out their lives in pampered luxury as long as they can pay the tab. He will, of course, be a leading anti American voice on RT and on podcasts aimed at his fan club here in the US.

That's if he leaves, a big "if" because he thinks this country is his, he bought it in 2016, and mere nobodies had NO RIGHT to take it away from him.

[Autumn]

31. Complete nonsense.

[onenote]

60. Yep. But a lot of DUers subscribe to this nonsense.

For example, some think he can flee to UAE and be protected there. The UAE has a good working relationship with the US and I can't imagine there would be anything in it for the to jeopardize it by harboring Trump.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-united-arab-
emirates/#:~:text=The%20two%20countries%20work%20together,region%20and%20around%20the%20world.&text=The%20United%20States%20provides%20Export,EXBS

And the idea that he's going to go to Russia is just as silly. His assets, which aren't particularly liquid, aren't going to travel with him.

[Cartoonist]

34. He might flee because he's a coward.

There are no good options for him.

[Evolve Dammit]

37. I will do the Dance of Joy if a) the MF'er dies, b) the MF'er leaves US, or c) is incarcerated for

the rest of his miserable days in this realm. Is that wrong? Never mind, I don't care. It's what would make me happy. He is the vilest creature I have ever witnessed. And that comment would make him happy. He loves it when he creates chaos and "retribution." I love it when he suffers miserably and hope it is soon.

[cab67]

39. why didn't they seize his passport when he was arraigned?

[Duppers]

54. He would not need a passport get into the countries,

the few countries that would take him.

[onenote]

61. Because, despite the hyperventilating of some pundits and DUers, he's not a flight risk.

[Ligyron]

41. I think he'll willingly go to prison at first and try and play the martyr angle big time.

Probably thinks he'll get special treatment in there and it won't be all that bad. Plus, he probably imagines they'll worship him in there.

He'll find out otherwise soon enough though.

However, all that's if he even lives long enough to go there with all the appeals and delay, delay crap.

[Grasswire2]

55. I can see him thinking he'd get lots of press for being first incarcerated ex POTUS.

He likes to envision the scenes and the drama. Like a movie.

Heck, he might think it would be cool to be "CRUCIFIED" on a cross. As long as he didn't suffer too much, and actually die there.

I'm going to ask my shrink friend what TFG would specifically think about being sentenced to cruxifixion. LOL

[Snackshack]

44. IF THIS

We’re to actually happen and I think this has every reason possible to be taken seriously it would be the cherry on top of the most inept and incompetent period of time this country has ever gone thru.

It would epitomize perfectly the state of our Union.

[ificandream]

45. I take most pundits, who basically write to get clicks, with a grain of salt.

That's kind of how I feel about this one. Knowing what we know about his personality, he wants desperately to reverse the impeachments and indictments. So it's hard to imagine him leaving.

[mwb970]

46. Just so he goes away.

Let's strap him to a Musk rocket and set the controls for the heart of the sun.

[liberal N proud]

47. Let him run to Putin.

Putin will soon have no use for him and will deal with as he does all who fail him.

[tanyev]

62. Yep. Donny with potential to take the White House again is useful to Putin.

Donny in Moscow whining about the weather, food and boredom is of zero use to Putin.

Donny doesn’t have what it takes to survive navigating through the Russian oligarchs and he probably knows it, although he would never admit it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

51. I would NOT be surprised to see TFG leave the country

Link to tweet

[Hugin]

53. K&R for "Trumpocene" alone!

[perfessor]

56. Not a serious question, but

We all "know" that tfg could serve as president from inside a prison cell (we know this because of all those who have said "...well, nothing in the constitution prohibits it ...&quot .

But - could he serve as president from a country without an extradition treaty?

[IcyPeas]

59. He doesn't have the guts to move to another country.

It's not easy to move to a foreign country.

He loves his American creature comforts like mcdonald hamburgers too much.

He would miss the adoration of the stupid MAGAts that he receives. His rallies are like heroin to him. He needs his fixes.

He won't leave Mar-a-Lago or Bedminister.... they are country clubs... they're not even real homes. Where would he find another country club to live in?

Nah, I just don't see him fleeing.

[Initech]

63. I'll happily pitch in for a one way Aeroflot ticket to Moscow!

And he can take the rest of his damn family with him.

[ecstatic]

65. Fine, but if he continues to post from overseas, drone him.

Because I'm not going to deal with him escaping justice AND continuing to taunt / bully us online.