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ancianita

(36,528 posts)
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:13 PM Sep 2023

Donald Trump's day so far:

- Loses New York fraud trial
- Massive financial penalties incoming
- Goodbye Trump Org!
- Trump's NY business licenses being revoked
- Four Trump criminal trials still coming
- Trump is going to prison

It's still only 5:30 pm.

Trump's life so far:

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Donald Trump's day so far: (Original Post) ancianita Sep 2023 OP
and the number one republican candidate for president, because he represents them. JohnSJ Sep 2023 #1
Okay, cool. Sure. Except I'd say that's how THEIR day is going. ancianita Sep 2023 #3
Perhaps, but their embrace and allegiance to Trump, not only by republicans in Congress, but JohnSJ Sep 2023 #8
And decent America says bring it on. rubbersole Sep 2023 #14
As long as they vote, I agree JohnSJ Sep 2023 #16
Bingo. +1000 paleotn Sep 2023 #17
There are alternatives: prison or death, with or without assistance. housecat Sep 2023 #20
He won't be in prison before the election, if ever, found guilty or not. Not sure about his JohnSJ Sep 2023 #24
We shall see. The demise option is very possible -- not counting on it, just waiting. housecat Sep 2023 #27
Just how lazy ARE Republican voters, anyway? Beartracks Sep 2023 #50
And the GOP's top pick for president! Guess he more than met the GOP's threshold for Family Values! RKP5637 Sep 2023 #2
Great update. I've missed most of the news today, & this is very heartening indeed. Hekate Sep 2023 #4
Fabulous OP malaise Sep 2023 #5
No, YOU! ancianita Sep 2023 #6
Someone needs to match that list with the 12 Days of Xmas lyrics and tune BigmanPigman Sep 2023 #7
Love ya, bp, but Trump & Xmas in the same song just doesn't work for me. ancianita Sep 2023 #9
I make my own Christmas cards most years BigmanPigman Sep 2023 #40
That's what I call ancianita Sep 2023 #41
I sent that card to my only GOP friend(we went to the same art school) BigmanPigman Sep 2023 #42
😍❤️🥰🥳👏 iluvtennis Sep 2023 #10
This is fun reading LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #11
Indeed! I'm not bothered that he's dragged his children down with him. Wish ancianita Sep 2023 #12
"Dad" must be so proud of his son..... NM Grins Sep 2023 #13
Most commercial buildings are underassessed and overinsured Warpy Sep 2023 #15
Thank you for the details. I hear you. ancianita Sep 2023 #18
Reports say he's signed Mara Lardo over to Junior Warpy Sep 2023 #22
Ah, right! I'd forgotten. ancianita Sep 2023 #26
...And a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeee! forgotmylogin Sep 2023 #19
I thought it was up over forty Sugarcoated Sep 2023 #21
Could be. He's been so busy it's been hard to keep count, right? ancianita Sep 2023 #25
He's up in Cosby territory Sugarcoated Sep 2023 #29
.500 record in presidential elections Shermann Sep 2023 #23
NY banks AverageOldGuy Sep 2023 #28
YES! ancianita Sep 2023 #32
Even better- HighFired49 Sep 2023 #49
All your golf trophies are fake and all your wives are trophies milestogo Sep 2023 #30
I'd love to rec this thread, but right now it has 91 recs, equaling indictments. NNadir Sep 2023 #31
lol don't let the loser's taint rub off! ancianita Sep 2023 #33
OK, it's up to 98; I'll make it 99. Hopefully more indictments will come. NNadir Sep 2023 #34
I mean 100. NNadir Sep 2023 #35
I'm honored, NNadir. ancianita Sep 2023 #36
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #37
HI-larious ancianita Sep 2023 #38
Suck it Donny you fat piece of shit Blue Owl Sep 2023 #39
1 Sexual assault conviction (E. Jean Carroll's case) Justice matters. Sep 2023 #43
It wasn't a conviction ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #44
Why are Ivanka and Jared not included here? raging moderate Sep 2023 #45
Good question. I'm guessing that it has to do with who Trump chose to place ancianita Sep 2023 #47
Yet he is up over Biden by 10% in the Polls sellitman Sep 2023 #46
I like it republianmushroom Sep 2023 #48
Crook. Kid Berwyn Sep 2023 #51
Traitor Fraud Got Busted by Cha Sep 2023 #52

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
3. Okay, cool. Sure. Except I'd say that's how THEIR day is going.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:24 PM
Sep 2023
Once he's gone by next June, they'll be looking for a new nominee in July.

JohnSJ

(92,754 posts)
8. Perhaps, but their embrace and allegiance to Trump, not only by republicans in Congress, but
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:43 PM
Sep 2023

also reflected by the republican polls, indicate that will not change. If it was going to change it would have happened after Jan 6th, and the fact that they doubled down indicate they will stand with Trump to the end

The Republican base believes all the lies pushed by Trump and his cronies, thanks in no small part to the MSM and trump’s cronies.

I don’t see that changing, and even right wing republicans, such as Liz Cheney, Romney, and Cassidy Hutchinson don’t believe that will change before the next election, and I agree.

There is a real threat of violence from rethugs in 2024

JohnSJ

(92,754 posts)
24. He won't be in prison before the election, if ever, found guilty or not. Not sure about his
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:13 PM
Sep 2023

demise, but I wouldn’t count on that either.

Beartracks

(12,897 posts)
50. Just how lazy ARE Republican voters, anyway?
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 01:38 PM
Sep 2023

I mean, if you're not hardcore MAGA, what's the rationale? "Meh, I guess Trump's okay. I voted for him last time, cuz he was the Republican, so I guess I'll do it again. He can't *really* be that bad, can he?"



The GOP thanks you, Republican voters, for your gullibility. Yes, he *can* be that bad, and they count on your incredulity.

============

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
9. Love ya, bp, but Trump & Xmas in the same song just doesn't work for me.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:46 PM
Sep 2023

I don't even want ANY of American culture with his name in it, but if you want a song theme, let it be the Grinch song...

"You're a Loser, Mr Trump...
You're a Liar, Mr. Trump...
You're a fraudster, Mr. Trump...

stuff like that.


BigmanPigman

(51,813 posts)
40. I make my own Christmas cards most years
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:44 PM
Sep 2023

and the one I made for 2016 featured tRump's green face in stead of the Grinch's with Trump Tower behind him and inside I had a picture of a fruitcake (tRump's as nutty as a fruitcake). I am especially proud of that year's card.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
41. That's what I call
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 01:04 AM
Sep 2023

art, and quite creative of you! There's a level of understanding trump that everyone can see in the grinch who lives to steal what's good, beautiful and true -- not to mention fruitcake, which can sit thick as a brick, and not for everyone. I love it.

Maybe the country will get a Christmas miracle this or next year.

BigmanPigman

(51,813 posts)
42. I sent that card to my only GOP friend(we went to the same art school)
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 02:27 AM
Sep 2023

I got a return card saying not to send her such terrible misconceptions about her dear leader (really, she did say this). My sister hadn't spoken to her for years since she is a right wing, hypocritical nut. That was the last time I ever corresponded with her even though she continued to send me birthday cards for a couple of years. She lives in Shasta, CA, home of the tRump lovers of the state.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
12. Indeed! I'm not bothered that he's dragged his children down with him. Wish
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:21 PM
Sep 2023

I could copy/paste the pdf parts that reveal that. In their adult years, they could have chosen better, and they chose wrong.

Thanks for your post!

Warpy

(111,802 posts)
15. Most commercial buildings are underassessed and overinsured
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:47 PM
Sep 2023

but the going rate is 10%-15%, depending on the property. TFG was inflating his crap by a factor of 200=300%, complete with fantasy square footage per floor and stories that didn't exist anywhere but on the paperwork he was showing to bankers.

He was WAY over the line between chisling and fraud. Will it net him jail time? Dunno. White collar crime usually results in fines and slaps on the wrists, white collar criminals being considered somehow more important than petty criminals shoplifting at Kroger.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
18. Thank you for the details. I hear you.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:57 PM
Sep 2023

Pretty sure that this civil suit will force huge settlements to the state of NY and banning of any of his or his children's business in that state again.

That state, the financial center of the world, is done with him.

He had to go abroad decades ago to get loans, which took him to mafia Putin and that particular oligarch network. He was totally comfortable with that, given his Cohen training.

He's managed to give business a bad name, and any of his connections with businesses or oligarchs will probably fade away, since they don't want the taint.

I wish he'd die penniless. But eventually his only way to not die poor is to sell off his many real estate holdings in other jurisdictions. Just the upkeep of Mar-a-lago will cost more than he'll be making in the next few years. I mean, who in their right mind would even want to be a member of that club now, right?

Warpy

(111,802 posts)
22. Reports say he's signed Mara Lardo over to Junior
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:11 PM
Sep 2023

who will undoubtedly run it into the ground just before climate change sinks it forever. It has gone back to what it was before the heady days of rubbing elbows with mobsters and spies while Donny did crooked deals over his two scoops. Now it's all the usual Palm Beach crowd, most of 'em older than god. Richer, too. Just boring.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
26. Ah, right! I'd forgotten.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:16 PM
Sep 2023

Yep. But his ol' billionaire neighbors don't want their land values to go down, so they won't be having his back. Dark days ahead for fraudfather.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
25. Could be. He's been so busy it's been hard to keep count, right?
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:13 PM
Sep 2023

I figure that if the rest is accurate, I'll go with that number. If you've got links that make it more accurate, cool.

Shermann

(7,674 posts)
23. .500 record in presidential elections
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:13 PM
Sep 2023

.000 record in winning the popular vote in presidential elections

AverageOldGuy

(1,607 posts)
28. NY banks
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:31 PM
Sep 2023

As I understand it, the judgement against Trump in NY means NY banks are prohibited from lending money to any of the organizations or individuals named in the suit for a number of years.

Unless I missed it, the only members of the Trump family involved are Trump and Eric, the dumb one.

I can hardly wait for the court to seize Trump Tower and turn it into low-income housing.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
32. YES!
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:54 PM
Sep 2023

Good points. Nothing should remain in New York with the Trump name on it. Trump's got a mansion in Westchester, but not sure if it's connected to the family business.

It will be interesting to see if his kids even stay in NY after this. Ivanka, Jared and kids live in Noho, I think, and they still have two homes on that billionaire island in FL. Don, Jr & Guilfoyle live in Jupiter, FL, but have a house in the Hamptons on Long Island. Not sure if they'll want to live there, if their money isn't connected to the Trump family business. Eric lives in the Trump Nat'l Golf Club in FL. When Trump Tower is sold off, I imagine Barron's floor might still be okay.

So overall, the family's got their feet out the door, anyway.

HighFired49

(353 posts)
49. Even better-
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:57 PM
Sep 2023

Turn it into refugee housing. NYC has been really pressed for places to house refugees sent from Texass, and it seems to me that Trump Tower (and all of his other residential properties) would be a perfect, appropriate place to house them.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
30. All your golf trophies are fake and all your wives are trophies
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:40 PM
Sep 2023

who don't give a rat's ass about you except for your money.

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
33. lol don't let the loser's taint rub off!
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:58 PM
Sep 2023
We're looking ahead to least a few more good days like this.

Justice matters.

(7,004 posts)
43. 1 Sexual assault conviction (E. Jean Carroll's case)
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 02:42 AM
Sep 2023

In the old days, that would have been called a Rape conviction, and the Republican party is all fine with it by favoring that mass-murdering (COVID-negligent) crook for leading their corrupt party...

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
44. It wasn't a conviction
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 06:53 AM
Sep 2023

Because it wasn't a criminal trial prosecuted by the state. It was a civil trial, so it was a ruling in favor of the plaintiff, the person suing him.

It sucks that it wasn't a criminal conviction, but accuracy matters more than our feelings.

raging moderate

(4,346 posts)
45. Why are Ivanka and Jared not included here?
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:35 AM
Sep 2023

Did Don Jr. and Eric cross some line that Ivanka and Jared avoided?

ancianita

(36,528 posts)
47. Good question. I'm guessing that it has to do with who Trump chose to place
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 11:49 AM
Sep 2023

in official Trump Org positions, and so their culpability is official, whereas she and Jared could have done other things for the family that fell on the other side of the legal line.

Cha

(299,273 posts)
52. Traitor Fraud Got Busted by
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 03:32 PM
Sep 2023

the Law and he thinks "a gun" is the answer.



TY More to come, no doubt.

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