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jmowreader

(51,159 posts)
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 05:42 PM Sep 2023

Am I the only one who doesn't care what Fetterman wears on the Senate floor?

Right now we have an entire political party who wants to shut down the government to force the other political party to accept their fascist agenda, a not-insignificant percentage of the American people who want to put one of the most prolific career criminals in American history back in the White House so he can turn our free country into a fascist dictatorship, and the guy who got canned by Auburn for losing to Vanderbilt for the first time in fifty seasons is sitting on 300 high-ranking military officers' promotions because the Army doesn't think you should have to carry your rapist's baby to term.

And what are we talking about? What Senator Fetterman wears to work.

There are more important things to discuss.

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Am I the only one who doesn't care what Fetterman wears on the Senate floor? (Original Post) jmowreader Sep 2023 OP
I care, but so long... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #1
We can chew gum and walk at the same time. We are not Repubs! I think he should dress better Pisces Sep 2023 #2
I completely agree, he's a US senator and he should dress like one. n/t Ftrump Sep 2023 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Sep 2023 #53
Yes. We need decorum. Firestorm49 Sep 2023 #3
Decorum concerns behavior dweller Sep 2023 #20
I think that ship has long ago sailed... DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #24
What has he been wearing? TheCowsCameHome Sep 2023 #4
Gym shorts and a hoodie. former9thward Sep 2023 #16
Did he exchange fashion tips with him? Red Mountain Sep 2023 #26
Don't compare the two. former9thward Sep 2023 #28
You just did that in post #16. stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #56
He met Zelensky in gym shorts and a hoodie! 😮 What us wrong with him? Smh Nt helpisontheway Sep 2023 #51
I don't care peacebuzzard Sep 2023 #5
Most people that make a big deal about Fetterman's dress are just walkingman Sep 2023 #6
Okay, how about this... jmowreader Sep 2023 #7
IMO, that would be fine. As long as he doesn't violate a "dress code" (if there is one) walkingman Sep 2023 #17
They should all wear hoodies LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #8
Not in the least relayerbob Sep 2023 #9
Don't care what they wear. Care how they act. bullimiami Sep 2023 #10
totally don't care, not even a little mike_c Sep 2023 #11
As Senator Warren stated T_A Sep 2023 #12
NO. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2023 #13
I don't give a rat's Bettie Sep 2023 #14
As a working stiff WmChris Sep 2023 #15
I just want them to do their jobs Tree Lady Sep 2023 #18
Wear a suit Wifes husband Sep 2023 #19
I'm a serious person and I've never worn a suit in my life. Iggo Sep 2023 #22
Hi, Wife's husband stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #55
I didn't even know there was a dress code until there wasn't one. Iggo Sep 2023 #21
Me, neither. (nt) stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #52
They're Lucky NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #23
I heard Ted Cruz on the TV giving his opinion. GoodRaisin Sep 2023 #25
IDGAF jcgoldie Sep 2023 #27
It is cringy manicdem Sep 2023 #29
T-shirts and jeans is fine by me. byronius Sep 2023 #30
I have one suit BOSSHOG Sep 2023 #33
Appropriate. byronius Sep 2023 #34
I don't care what John Fetterman wears but people Sep 2023 #31
Imagine if Senator Fetterman wore a TAN Hoody on the floor of the Senate BOSSHOG Sep 2023 #32
What you do is what counts Generic Brad Sep 2023 #35
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Sep 2023 #37
I wouldn't care if he showed up in a tank top and swim trunks. paleotn Sep 2023 #36
Nope. Warpy Sep 2023 #38
Fetterman doesn't mind being a lightning rod for rethug distractions. That's his opening to ancianita Sep 2023 #39
We have insurrectionists in the Congress, maybe we should be worried about THAT onecaliberal Sep 2023 #41
hear, hear. AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #42
I dont care at all. Eko Sep 2023 #43
You're far from alone stopdiggin Sep 2023 #44
Exactly, we can't just put blinders on for our team. Pisces Sep 2023 #46
Having had employees, I would not let any of them dress like Fetterman at work. Anyone who works Pisces Sep 2023 #45
mental & emotional health duckworth969 Sep 2023 #47
Can't bring myself to give a shit. nt Carlitos Brigante Sep 2023 #48
I really do not care what Senator Fetterman wears LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #49
I care. He should dress up for Work. Pisses me off to see Jim Jordan without a suitcoat. Nt helpisontheway Sep 2023 #50
Dress Codes Roy Rolling Sep 2023 #54
Wear a suit Wifes husband Sep 2023 #57
Wear the suit and make your bed every morning. nt Hotler Sep 2023 #58
The only part I'm upset about is that we can no longer make fun of Gym Jordan csziggy Sep 2023 #59
That bar was broken by Sinema, and other than catty remarks, it was ignored. haele Sep 2023 #60
Suits his size are hard to come by marshall Sep 2023 #61
I don't care what Fetterman wears, area51 Sep 2023 #62
You're not alone Rob H. Sep 2023 #63
I don't care what he wears. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2023 #64

Pisces

(5,761 posts)
2. We can chew gum and walk at the same time. We are not Repubs! I think he should dress better
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 05:46 PM
Sep 2023

For the job. Most jobs have a dress code. This is no different. I like Fetterman, but we need the Senate and the House to be more professional on all fronts. We are not exempt from this. Maybe I’m too old fashioned, but optics matter.

Response to Pisces (Reply #2)

dweller

(24,471 posts)
20. Decorum concerns behavior
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:37 PM
Sep 2023

Not fashion .
Rules for how business is conducted in the senate, and the appropriate actions the senators follow may constitute decorum.
I don’t know that there is a dress code in the rules, but there may be and I’m not aware of it .

But as long as Fetterman follows the rules of the senate , I don’t give a fig what he wears .

ymmv


✌🏻

former9thward

(33,141 posts)
16. Gym shorts and a hoodie.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:24 PM
Sep 2023

He looks like anyone in a college dorm on a Saturday morning. He showed up in that with a meeting with Zelensky.

Red Mountain

(1,831 posts)
26. Did he exchange fashion tips with him?
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:01 PM
Sep 2023

Zelensky frequently gets the same criticism as if a suit will finally destroy the Russian will to fight.

Fetterman has said he'll wear a suit as a reward for good behavior by the Rubes. I like that idea.

former9thward

(33,141 posts)
28. Don't compare the two.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:33 PM
Sep 2023

Zelensky is his country's CIC and dresses in a military uniform. He often is visiting troops at the front. Fetterman is not fighting any war and dresses in a beach outfit.

 
56. You just did that in post #16.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 04:41 AM
Sep 2023


I’ve actually seen the complaints that were referred to on how Zelensky dresses. That isn’t made up.

peacebuzzard

(5,217 posts)
5. I don't care
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 05:53 PM
Sep 2023

this man is clawing his way back after a tremendous physical and health challenge. He is dealing with that and must be uncomfortable because of it, as far as balance and rhythm; he needs to be as relaxed as possible to focus on what he is doing, how to get there, and most of all not worry about what the hell he needs to wear. This elected official is doing his best and he is good at it... It is his voice that we need, not his appearance.

on edit: remember he is a very tall and large man and he must constantly have to accommodate himself within his surroundings. To bloody hell with the suit and tie thing or Armani clothing or whatever everyone tries to dress him with. Get a life.

walkingman

(8,116 posts)
6. Most people that make a big deal about Fetterman's dress are just
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 05:55 PM
Sep 2023

looking at a reason to complain about a democrat. If I was going to complain about a democrat it would be Menendez.
However, I don't think it is appropriate to come to work in sweats.

walkingman

(8,116 posts)
17. IMO, that would be fine. As long as he doesn't violate a "dress code" (if there is one)
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:25 PM
Sep 2023

that seems OK to me. Most people today don't know that women in Congress were not allowed to wear pants until the 90's or sleeveless dresses? I think one of the muslim women were criticized for wearing a hijab....bet they wouldn't care if a nun wore a habit. It reminds me of the controversy over hair in public school which I always thought was ridiculous.

I'm with you, it is mostly just a distraction from the important issues.

mike_c

(36,284 posts)
11. totally don't care, not even a little
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:09 PM
Sep 2023

Frankly, I still use the word "suit" pajoratively. I'm happy that Fetterman isn't a suit.

T_A

(604 posts)
12. As Senator Warren stated
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:12 PM
Sep 2023

as long as all of his private parts are covered, who cares?

BTW, this is only about voting appearances. Fetterman said he wears a suit for committee hearings.

Bettie

(16,764 posts)
14. I don't give a rat's
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:15 PM
Sep 2023

backside about what he or any of them wear.

Yes, I laughed at Sinema sometimes, because she likes to dress like a teenager when she's, um, not one.

It's all a bunch of sound and fury, aimed squarely at a Democrat to distract from how truly awful the Republican party is...a bunch of dickheads pointing and screaming "BUT HE WON'T WEAR A SUIT!!!".

WmChris

(191 posts)
15. As a working stiff
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:21 PM
Sep 2023

I've always thought suits and ties were overrated. I, for one, don't believe what you wear is nearly as important as the work you produce. Being a life long union worker I associate suits with the never sweat elitist managers. Many of the middle management people produced excellent results in casual wear.

Tree Lady

(11,973 posts)
18. I just want them to do their jobs
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:30 PM
Sep 2023

As long as private parts are covered I am good.

My daughter is going through this in her CPA office, she dresses up and almost no one else does. She said one of the new CPA's wore jeans with holes in it. I told her employees are hard to get these days as long as she gets the work done that's all bosses care of these days. Not like she sees the customers.

Times have changed in the last few years where work is concerned. I would have loved to have worked at home instead of an office since I had latch key kids calling me after school every day.

Back when I first went to work I had to wear a suit jacket nice blouse and skirt and heels. I was only 20 and making barely over minimum wage. My mom had to buy me the suit.

Wifes husband

(83 posts)
19. Wear a suit
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:36 PM
Sep 2023

The Senate was established as the senior branch of the legislature. Senators should dress appropriately.

He is not washing his car or mowing the lawn, and should dress in business attire.

If you want to be considered a serious person, you should dress appropriately and an adult man should know better than this.

This is an unnecessary distraction, and all concerned should cut out the crap and do their jobs

 
55. Hi, Wife's husband
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 04:37 AM
Sep 2023
If you want to be considered a serious person, you should dress appropriately and an adult man should know better than this.

My wife used to say stuff like that to me. She was surprised to learn that in this country mathematicians don’t generally dress up in a suit and tie to teach at a university.

Chalk it up to cultural differences, I suppose.

It’s kind of funny seeing this, again.

I do dress up in a suit and tie every Easter and Christmas to accompany her to Mass, though, despite being an atheist.

Well…just because.





NowISeetheLight

(3,987 posts)
23. They're Lucky
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:39 PM
Sep 2023

Considering the crap the Senate was responsible for under McConnell, a clown suit or inmates costume might be appropriate.

GoodRaisin

(9,413 posts)
25. I heard Ted Cruz on the TV giving his opinion.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 06:55 PM
Sep 2023

He ought to shave that unruly shit growing out of his face he thinks is a beard before he says anything about the appearance of anyone else. Gym shorts and hoodie are no less non acceptable than walking around in a suit and goofy beard your face can’t grow.


jcgoldie

(11,831 posts)
27. IDGAF
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:12 PM
Sep 2023

If the assholes are talking about Fetterman’s outfit maybe trans kids and immigrant families get a short respite.

manicdem

(488 posts)
29. It is cringy
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:42 PM
Sep 2023

Does he dress like that because of his medical issues or is it by choice? If he has difficulty putting on pants and shoes and needs loose clothing to dress himself I can understand.

Clothing isn't everything, but it does show professionalism and standards. Right now my workplace is in the middle of an election between two unions. The representative for one union dresses in hoodies and what looks like pajamas when he appears in court and important meetings representing union members. If you were fighting to keep your job, and your representative came into court wearing a pajamas that would be bad.

Congress is no different. Lives, jobs, future of the nation depend on what they do.

byronius

(7,529 posts)
30. T-shirts and jeans is fine by me.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

I’ve been a CEO for thirty years, and that’s my uniform.

Suits are for courts and weddings.

people

(665 posts)
31. I don't care what John Fetterman wears but
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

I do care how it looks that we have Menendez there after he's been indicted on felony counts -- that looks BAD, particularly when we want the Democratic Party to look much different that the Orange Jerk's party.

BOSSHOG

(38,945 posts)
32. Imagine if Senator Fetterman wore a TAN Hoody on the floor of the Senate
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:54 PM
Sep 2023

Imagine if the house decided to show a movie and turned the lights way down low.

Generic Brad

(14,357 posts)
35. What you do is what counts
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:58 PM
Sep 2023

That is why people like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Tommy Tuberville, Lyndsey Graham, Ron Johnson, etc will always be pieces of shit regardless of what they wear. The things they do are self serving, mean spirited, and purposefully destructive. Suits and ties don't make up for their lack of character.

paleotn

(18,799 posts)
36. I wouldn't care if he showed up in a tank top and swim trunks.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:01 PM
Sep 2023

I completely agree with you.

But I don't think he got canned for the Vandy loss. That was decent Vanderbilt team, Bobby Johnson's best, and Aubie was grossly overrated coming into that season. The collapse after the UT win and getting demolished by Bama at the end did him in.

Warpy

(112,817 posts)
38. Nope.
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:15 PM
Sep 2023

The guy is still recovering from a stroke, he can keep things as easy as he needs to.

I wouldn't want Tammy Duckworth to have to cope with pantyhose and high heeled shoes, either.

ancianita

(37,705 posts)
39. Fetterman doesn't mind being a lightning rod for rethug distractions. That's his opening to
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 08:22 PM
Sep 2023

rip them on their total idiotic incompetence in governance and intent to dismantle this democracy for their billionaire owners and trump, their front man.

No Democrat has a major problem with Fetterman's appearance. I'm glad Schumer relaxed the dress code in solidarity with his colleague so he can dress for his leadership role in representing his constituents as he sees fit.

Fetterman's dress might reflect him, but short or long term, it also reflects how we Democrats accept difference, as long as our fellow Democrats' values are true to democracy and doing the greatest good for the greatest number.

stopdiggin

(12,439 posts)
44. You're far from alone
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 09:54 PM
Sep 2023

But I think a fair reading would acknowledge that there's a decent amount of opinion going the other direction. So if MTG shows up dressed as Q-Anon Shaman .. ? Thong bikini and flip flops .. ?

And, while it is eminently true that are far weightier matters - most of us are capable (and somewhat expect of others) at least a moderate degree of multi-task. Holding two thoughts at the same time - and all that.

If the attorney representing me shows up in court wearing board shorts, wife-beater and a parrot-head ... I'm frankly a little edgy.

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Pisces

(5,761 posts)
45. Having had employees, I would not let any of them dress like Fetterman at work. Anyone who works
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 10:04 PM
Sep 2023

Outside of the home has a dress code. Business casual is not too much to ask of anyone.

duckworth969

(965 posts)
47. mental & emotional health
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 10:21 PM
Sep 2023

I thought perhaps the reason Fetterman is choosing, at least in part, to wear his hoodie and shorts for his day gig is for his own mental and emotional health.

Maybe a way of keeping inside his own element, to stay grounded and maintain focus.

It’s what he’s used to and comfortable with.

Ask yourself how much deference and respect we extend to others because of the suits, gowns, tiaras, hats, robes, etc. they wear, and so many of them turn out to be the worst examples of Homo sapiens.

Look, when the Senate has their group photo, I’d to see Big John in a suit.

But when he’s at work and he wants to wear his work clothes, let the man alone so he can do his job.

Fetterman’s not there to be what you want.

He’s there for the people he works for and they seem to be cool with his garb of choice.

Roy Rolling

(7,121 posts)
54. Dress Codes
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 03:16 AM
Sep 2023

Uniforms are for group identity and cohesiveness. Military soldiers wear uniforms when fighting, but that doesn’t t mean without the uniform they cannot fight.

But also, the uniform has exceptions for the wounded. You don’t see a soldier covered in blood charged with a dirty uniform. Fetterman is recovering and eventually may see the small compromise of garments a sacrifice he’s willing to make.

But he won’t do it because Republicans publicly command he change clothes, so here we are.

Wifes husband

(83 posts)
57. Wear a suit
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:18 AM
Sep 2023

The point is being missed is that a great many people, me included, DO CARE that a senator wear appropriate business attire. Him showing up ready to paint his house is simply not appropriate and distracting.

This is one of our best senators and the man is brilliant, and we are discussing his clothing.

Don't get me wrong. I am retired and I am not wearing a suit again. Business casual is the best you get from me now on, even to funerals. But when I show up to a wedding or funeral I will be inappropriately dressed. I won't pretend I am ok. I just don't give a damn, and that is the image I will project.

I don't plan to run for senator either

The suit projects a serious image.

csziggy

(34,179 posts)
59. The only part I'm upset about is that we can no longer make fun of Gym Jordan
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:41 AM
Sep 2023

For taking his jacket off. Otherwise I don't care. Said by a 71 year old women who spends 90% of her time in ratty casual shirts and leggings with no bra.

haele

(13,225 posts)
60. That bar was broken by Sinema, and other than catty remarks, it was ignored.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:53 AM
Sep 2023

Tells you how seriously they take females in the Senate, it takes "a dude" to flaunt dress code before there's a concerted outcry about decorum.

Haele

marshall

(6,667 posts)
61. Suits his size are hard to come by
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:49 AM
Sep 2023

Not to mention it would be very difficult at his size for him to dress himself even if he didn’t have the limitations from his strokes.

It may have been noted, but lapses in dress and grooming is a factor of depression, which he has publicly struggled with.

area51

(12,071 posts)
62. I don't care what Fetterman wears,
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:56 AM
Sep 2023

as long as he's working for his constituents and not wealthy special interests.

If nazis don't get upset about Gym Jordan's lack of jacket, they can't complain about Fetterman.

Rob H.

(5,475 posts)
63. You're not alone
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 10:59 AM
Sep 2023

As long as he shows up and works for the people who elected him I couldn't care less what he wears.

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