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LetMyPeopleVote

(152,277 posts)
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 03:10 PM Sep 2023

'I am not going to take that!' Ron DeSantis screams as Black man blames him for racist shooting



https://www.rawstory.com/desantis-jacksonville/

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis became angry with a constituent who accused him of enacting policies that hurt the minority community.

At an event in Jacksonville, Florida, a Black man complained to DeSantis about his policies. The man pointed to a recent race-based shooting in the city.

"Well, listen, excuse me, I'm not gonna let you accuse me of committing criminal activity," DeSantis interrupted. "I am not going to take that! I am not going to take that! You should want to have a civil conversation."

"Everyone doesn't have their own truth," the governor snapped. "No, you don't get to come here and blame me for some madman. That is not appropriate, and I'm not going to accept it."

"You have allowed people to hunt people like me," the constituent said as two white staffers urged the man to leave.
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'I am not going to take that!' Ron DeSantis screams as Black man blames him for racist shooting (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 OP
"You have allowed people to hunt people like me": LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #1
I take issue with this statement. Demobrat Sep 2023 #21
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #34
Add this to little Ron's list of toddler temper tantrums LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #2
deSnapper! TY Cha Sep 2023 #23
"Little Ron"! calimary Sep 2023 #32
I used to be so afraid of him wryter2000 Sep 2023 #41
Me too. He is more intelligent than Trump...but... Caliman73 Sep 2023 #43
Ron is past his expiration date. He peaked this spring, DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #49
Why don't you take it outside, tough guy Takket Sep 2023 #3
The thinnest skin in politics. RandySF Sep 2023 #4
Not quite... TSExile Sep 2023 #8
Definitely the second thinnest. ificandream Sep 2023 #26
VERY thin skinned Chili Pepper Sep 2023 #29
Welcome to DU, Chili Pepper! calimary Sep 2023 #35
I don't see thin skin. I see masterful use of communications to drown out the truth. live love laugh Sep 2023 #31
Nah. He is just a bully, who happens to have the bully pulpit right now. Caliman73 Sep 2023 #44
DeSatan is an extremely dangerous politician. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2023 #5
And, Stupid Ugly. Cha Sep 2023 #24
And looks like he smells! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2023 #27
We do know he lets everyone in on Cha Sep 2023 #33
Wasn't that something. He's so gross! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2023 #39
Manifest racist reacts to being exposed with overt anger jcgoldie Sep 2023 #6
And the blonde white woman ushers this man out. MontanaMama Sep 2023 #7
Reminds me of that time... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #10
I guess we shouldn't be surprised but MontanaMama Sep 2023 #12
Yeah... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #36
We haven't every really addressed the issues of racism and White Supremacy in any meaningful way... Caliman73 Sep 2023 #45
Pres. Biden would have talked with him....................... Lovie777 Sep 2023 #9
+1 2naSalit Sep 2023 #11
"pass the buck" DeSantis KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #13
Racist whiny storm trooper; fuck you, Ron! Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #14
He continues to show that he is unfit to be president tulipsandroses Sep 2023 #15
If he's trying to copy the tenor of Fani Willis's response to Gym Jordan's Hortensis Sep 2023 #16
Meanwhile Dwayne Wade moves his family out of Florida ALBliberal Sep 2023 #17
God bless you Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2023 #40
Well I was born in Texas lived there til fifth grade ALBliberal Sep 2023 #42
Honestly, opposition campaign ads just write and produce themselves. n/t dobleremolque Sep 2023 #18
One more problem with this KS Toronado Sep 2023 #19
This is true... Caliman73 Sep 2023 #46
Desantis looked angry and defensive before the guy even spoke ecstatic Sep 2023 #20
He was grinding his teeth and moving his jaw side to side. A Brand New World Sep 2023 #28
Yep. Great statement. Caliman73 Sep 2023 #47
I'd like to know what drugs Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #51
He is such presidential material. Biophilic Sep 2023 #22
Rethuglicans HATE being confronted with truth accountability and justice; in ANY way. Exempt. Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #25
Hit a nerve? orangecrush Sep 2023 #30
ever since slavery "ended": you have hunted . killed and wrongfully imprisoned many blacks AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #37
New DeSantis campaign song? generalbetrayus Sep 2023 #38
As usual, the truth hurts. Paladin Sep 2023 #48
But he was very quick Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #50

Demobrat

(9,623 posts)
21. I take issue with this statement.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:03 PM
Sep 2023

DeSantis didn’t ALLOW people to hunt people like the speaker. He ENCOURAGED it.

wryter2000

(47,143 posts)
41. I used to be so afraid of him
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 06:09 PM
Sep 2023

I figured he was Trump but smarter. It’s been fun to watch his campaign crash and burn

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
43. Me too. He is more intelligent than Trump...but...
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 06:37 PM
Sep 2023

I thought that he would be able to do horrible things because he seemed more put together than Trump who is impulsive and self absorbed, and frankly, kind of dumb.

As I saw more of DeSantis and learned more about Florida politics, I started to change my tune. I went so far as to predict that once America saw more of him, that he would fail and would not become the president. I said that he'd likely never be more than the former governor of Florida, although that may be premature. He may have a shot at becoming a Senator from Florida, just because again, the politics in Florida are whacked.

DeSantis is academically and likely intellectually smarter than Trump, but he lacks any of the ability that Trump, or other politicians have in actually relating to people. Trump is a sociopath in my opinion, but he still retains the ability that a con-man has in identifying and winning the confidence of his marks. DeSantis is just awkward and horrible at the basic skills of relating to people. He is also arrogant and falsely entitled.

A few months ago there was a story that came out about DeSantis which sums him up pretty well. I don't know if the story is true or not, but a person who claimed to be a friend or room mate said that DeSantis, when he would go out on dates, would purposely say the word Thai (yes as in the Country and People of Thailand) incorrectly. He would pronounce it Thigh as in, "I like Thigh food" The story went on to say that if the woman who was out on the date corrected DeSantis, he would then "ghost her" and cease communications. So, basically if you didn't fall for his gaslighting and surrender your will to him, he would want nothing to do with you. He didn't con you or smooth talk you, or even try to trick you in any way. He just expected you to agree with him straight up. It is both arrogant and stupid. No wonder his campaign is crashing and burning.

I too am enjoying the situation.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
49. Ron is past his expiration date. He peaked this spring,
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 08:53 PM
Sep 2023

and it has been downhill ever since.... including his polls...


The more people get to know him, the less they like him-- even among Republicans...


His whole boomlet came from his opposition to anti-Covid policies--- which only a small minority of the country agreed with...

Now that there are no mask mandates etc, there is no rationale for his candidacy.


ificandream

(10,234 posts)
26. Definitely the second thinnest.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:23 PM
Sep 2023

The one with the thinnest who is a joke couldn't take someone else's joke.

live love laugh

(14,030 posts)
31. I don't see thin skin. I see masterful use of communications to drown out the truth.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:32 PM
Sep 2023

Funny how he overtalks the commenters but pauses during applause. He’s just a scum bag with no humanity.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
44. Nah. He is just a bully, who happens to have the bully pulpit right now.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 06:59 PM
Sep 2023

I see it this way, if he were not in the position he is in as governor, how might that conversation have gone?

When you have the authority of the State of Florida behind you, with bodyguards in a highly curated event, and your response to antagonism is to get all huffy, that is not masterful communications.

I do think that DeSantis knows what Conservatives want to see. They want people to yell and deny things rather than to actually have the conversation that he was decrying. DeSantis would NEVER sit down with that guy and talk about the situation and why the guy thinks DeSantis is responsible. NEVER in a million years would he do that. That guy had to go into hostile territory for a chance to confront DeSantis. All of the advantages were on DeSantis' side.

I see masterful communications as what President Obama would do with critics. He would engage them, while keeping them at elbow's length, let them feel heard, while seeming like the reasonable person. As much as it pains me to say it, I see masterful communications as what Ronald Reagan used to do as well. Self deprecating humor to disarm people, partially answering the question, and then playing things off as if he had not heard the question.

DeSantis has ZERO people skills, which is why his campaign is imploding. He is too arrogant to learn anything too, I actually don't see much of a future for him outside of Florida politics. I said on another post in this thread, that he still has a shot at becoming Senator from Florida because Florida politics are crazy, but he won't be president, not in 2024, 2028, or any time.

Cha

(303,048 posts)
33. We do know he lets everyone in on
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:33 PM
Sep 2023

what he thinks of potential voters by wiping his nose emissions on them.

Who Does That?


jcgoldie

(11,847 posts)
6. Manifest racist reacts to being exposed with overt anger
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 03:17 PM
Sep 2023

I'm guessing many republicans will identify with that reaction.

2naSalit

(91,008 posts)
10. Reminds me of that time...
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 03:45 PM
Sep 2023

At a WH presser where a journalist was asking -45 a question and -45 got pissed and some girl comes up and tries to yank the mic out of his hand and he pushed her hand down to keep speaking.

MontanaMama

(23,864 posts)
12. I guess we shouldn't be surprised but
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 03:55 PM
Sep 2023

damn...it still takes my breath away. We've got a long way to go. SMDH.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
45. We haven't every really addressed the issues of racism and White Supremacy in any meaningful way...
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:09 PM
Sep 2023

People say that the Civil War was fought over slavery, and yes, it was...

It was not however, fought to destroy White Supremacy as both North and South gave indications that while slavery was abominable, that Black people were not the equal of White people.

You can see in the way that the Indigenous people were treated after the Civil War, as savages, once just a step below the "White Man", then denigrated to below the status of the Black man when their land was desired. When we wanted to colonize the Philippines we painted (literally) Filipinos with feathers in their hair or in African garb because they were "not White".

The Civil Rights movement made advances in the legal rights of Black people and other minorities, but again, it was never aimed at confronting the roots of White Supremacy, just the most serious effects.

What conservatives are doing now, with the backlash against an honest teaching of American History with many Liberals unfortunately just kind of staying quiet, is also a testament to the staying power of the idea of White Supremacy and people not wanting to upset the applecart.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. If he's trying to copy the tenor of Fani Willis's response to Gym Jordan's
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 04:32 PM
Sep 2023

accusations to her, he'd better hope it goes over elsewhere better than it does here! But maybe he knows his MAGAs.

ALBliberal

(2,776 posts)
17. Meanwhile Dwayne Wade moves his family out of Florida
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 04:49 PM
Sep 2023

I know not many of us have those options. And that makes me so sad. But Wade made the right decision.

Horrible man.

Bless all you DUers in Florida Texas and elsewhere. You are in our hearts all the time.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,724 posts)
40. God bless you
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 06:07 PM
Sep 2023

Your message means so much to me and I think others who feel shat on here at DU because of where we live. It truly means the world to me. Thank you.

ALBliberal

(2,776 posts)
42. Well I was born in Texas lived there til fifth grade
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 06:11 PM
Sep 2023

Til my parents moved us to NM in 1974. Many loved ones still there. Many have become oddly strange in their political beliefs given our humble upbringing. But. I love Texas. I will always be a Texan. And let’s
Fight on for all these southern states.

Take care.

KS Toronado

(18,773 posts)
19. One more problem with this
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 04:54 PM
Sep 2023

reQublicans love it when their elected officials scream at their Democratic constituents.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
46. This is true...
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:12 PM
Sep 2023

Conservatives and the MAGA based see DeSantis' bullying as "strength" and "leadership".

Fortunately there aren't as many of them out there, but they vote.

ecstatic

(34,030 posts)
20. Desantis looked angry and defensive before the guy even spoke
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:02 PM
Sep 2023

Really hostile. Is that because the questioner was black or is that his demeanor with all of his constituents?

A Brand New World

(1,124 posts)
28. He was grinding his teeth and moving his jaw side to side.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:27 PM
Sep 2023

He was barely controlling his anger from the moment the man stood up. It’s like he’s thinking how did this black man get in here and how dare he ask me a question!

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
47. Yep. Great statement.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:17 PM
Sep 2023
He was barely controlling his anger from the moment the man stood up. It’s like he’s thinking how did this black man get in here and how dare he ask me a question!


I would change (in DeSantis' mind) "black man" to another single word that I am sure he uses privately... a lot, but other than that spot on!

Biophilic

(4,480 posts)
22. He is such presidential material.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:04 PM
Sep 2023

I firmly believe DeSantis is more dangerous to our country and its foundation than even trump. I think he is scary as all get out.

AllaN01Bear

(22,484 posts)
37. ever since slavery "ended": you have hunted . killed and wrongfully imprisoned many blacks
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 05:43 PM
Sep 2023

who didnt commit crimes . meanwhile some of your kind committed crimes without peanlty.

Paladin

(28,619 posts)
48. As usual, the truth hurts.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:31 PM
Sep 2023

So nice to see DeSantis lose his shit in public, all on account of the truth. I hope the questions keep coming.

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