Shooting at White Sox ⚾️ game - gun got in park in lady's belly fat. Accidentally discharged.

[underpants]

Shooting at White Sox game happened after woman hid gun in belly, per report


New details have emerged after a shooting injured two women at Guaranteed Rate Field during a Chicago White Sox game on Friday night.

On Tuesday, ESPN Chicago reporter Peggy Kusinski said that the gun was snuck into the stadium by one of the women who was hit. The shooting was "an accidental discharge" by the woman whose injury was previously identified as "a graze wound."

"She reportedly snuck the gun in past metal detectors hiding it in the folds of her belly fat," Kusinski said in a post on X.

Police previously said that a 42-year-old woman "sustained one gun-shot wound to the leg" and a 26-year-old woman "also sustained a graze wound to the abdomen."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/whitesox/2023/08/29/white-sox-game-shooting-fan-snuck-gun-into-stadium-in-belly/70710099007/

[RandySF]

1. jfc

[CurtEastPoint]

2. only in Amurka... gunz in your gunt

[underpants]

3. You want fries with that?

No kidding

[Kaleva]

4. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge

There are negligent discharges.

[BeyondGeography]

10. No such thing?

Gun logic is fun.

No such thing as car accidents, eg, just negligent acts of car management.

Humans aren’t accident-prone, they’re negligence-prone.

Takes you down an interesting road, like we don’t just need protection from others but from ourselves.

[Kaleva]

33. We are talking about guns. You want to switch to talking about cars

"Negligence is the failure to behave with the level of care that a reasonable person would have exercised under the same circumstances. Either a person's actions or omissions of actions can be found negligent."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/negligence#:~:text=Negligence%20is%20the%20failure%20to,actions%20can%20be%20found%20negligent.

[BeyondGeography]

35. No, we are talking word choice

And “negligent discharge” has its critics:

https://www.policemag.com/weapons/article/15307827/dont-call-it-a-negligent-discharge

[Kaleva]

38. From the article

"1. The accidental discharge occurs when a firearm discharges absent human interaction with the trigger. Examples would be older firearms that aren’t drop safe, or situations where a foreign object gets pushed into the trigger guard resulting in activation of the trigger mechanism."

https://www.policemag.com/weapons/article/15307827/dont-call-it-a-negligent-discharge

If one has a gun that isn't drop safe, it should be retired. It's the responsibility of the gun owner to know if their guns are drop safe or not

It's up to the gun owner to ensure that foreign objects don't get pushed into the trigger guard. If that remains a possibility, then the prudent thing to do is not to have a round in the chamber. The odds of a armed gun owner getting killed or seriously injured by an assailant because they didn't have a round in the chamber is extremely small. I have yet to hear about such a case. It may have happened but I haven't come across an example yet.

[sir pball]

13. Au contraire, mon capitane. They're very rare but they do happen.

Yes, most "accidental" discharges are negligent trigger pulls. But I have had, once, a very well-worn 1911 truly and accidentally discharge when I racked it (it was immediately unloaded and taken to a gunsmith); that's why you always point it in a safe direction.

[Kaleva]

31. So why did you have a gun that was very well worn?

I could see keeping it but as you were well aware of it's condition, it should not have been loaded

Edit. At least until you brought it in to a reputable gunsmith to check it out and replace/repair anything that needed it .

[sir pball]

41. Because it had been regularly used for decades prior to the unintentional discharge.

It was my grandfather's from the war; at the time of the incident it was still fired (and therefore stripped and cleaned) at least monthly. It wasn't pulled from a dusty box in the attic after decades of decay.

I suppose you could make a case that it's negligent to not fully disassemble and inspect a firearm of a certain age before every single session regardless of use status, but that's quite a stretch IMO. If it worked fine two weeks ago, and the week before that, and a few weeks before that, so forth and so on, well, that's why you always point it in a safe direction while loading. That said, you presumably take the former view, so I don't see much further to discuss

[Kaleva]

57. Did you ever bring it in to a gunsmith for inspection?

Just asking as you stated you were aware of the guns condition.

[Lurker Deluxe]

39. disagree

A gun is a mechanical devise. Mechanical devises have failures, no matter how well inspected and maintained.

We always used to say an injury is lack of being prepared for an accident.

I would hold this to be true concerning an accidental firearm discharge. Being prepared for such an incident prevents an injury.

Many years ago while bench sighting a .300 Weatherby a round was triggered and did not fire, when activating the bolt to remove the round it discharged, still being in the bench it went where is was intended to go it caused no harm. It was taken to the gunsmith who found no failure or reason.

Could have been anything: faulty primer, bad round, a spec of sand stuck to the end of the round, or just bad luck. Being prepared for an accident prevented an injury.

Gun is always loaded. There is a reason for that.

[Eyeball_Kid]

5. An incredible act of stupid. n/t

[sarcasmo]

6. Hide a gun in your Panniculus. Coming soon, belly searches at the stadium gate.

[waddirum]

15. my vocabulary word of the day

thanks

[sarcasmo]

26. +1

[Celerity]

44. jfc, I googled images for Panniculus

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

48. I see those on every "600 lb life"

[Celerity]

51. I have never watched any of those type of shows. No interest in them for multiple reasons.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

49. Ugh

Then I did...

...maybe she had that gun to off herself. I'm no model, but I couldn't live like that, lugging my gut around in a wheel barrow.

[Diamond_Dog]

7. Holy moly

How did she get through the metal detector?

And …. WHY???

[underpants]

8. Wanded but thought it was her belt buckle?

Or maybe security isn’t that tight.

My wife and I went to a major college football game last year (Ohio State at Maryland) and security was super tight. Very visible too.

[Diamond_Dog]

9. I never would have thought of that

Sad that in this day and age such tight security is required. But you get 100,000 people in the Shoe you figure at least a few are crazy nuts. Meaning not Buckeye fan nuts, the dangerous kind of nuts.

[ProfessorGAC]

43. I'm Going With The Latter

I set off the metal detector at Pearson in Toronto around 30 years back.
It was a paper clip in my pants pocket.
I think a magnetometer would have to be off to miss a gun surrounded by nothing more than fat & water.
Also, since there's this thing called gravity, how would a heavy metal object stay in the folds of the skin while walking.
This whole story smells bad.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

59. It's been so long since I've been to an MLB game

That I can't remember if we even went through metal detectors. Would have been 2011, San Francisco's park--whatever name it wears now. It was AT&T then.

And speaking of--I'm sick of corporate names on civic buildings. Just name parks after the teams or legendary players. "Willie Mays Field" has a great ring to it, after all.

Anything but bloody Candlestick. I still get a nervous tic thinking about that nightmare.

[pfitz59]

60. Maybe she was in a wheelchair?

And couldn't be properly wanded or searched?

[Chainfire]

28. Lead lined fat.

[Liberal In Texas]

11. Why on earth would this woman think that she would NEED to smuggle a gun into

a baseball game?

Worried about getting mugged at the hot dog stand? I can not imagine a situation where you'd need a gun at a sporting event.

[sinkingfeeling]

18. +100

[Solly Mack]

12. Well, OK.

Sort of an otter pocket, I guess. Kind of creative.

Stupid, but creative.

I'm glad it wasn't any worse.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

50. Like a

kangaroo pouch?

[Solly Mack]

52. That works, too. I guess.

Either way, stupid of her.

[Lancero]

14. No legitimate reason to sneak it past security, what was her real plan for the gun?

Whatever it was, it's quite lucky that only one innocent person was injured here.

[multigraincracker]

16. Sounds like

A whole lot of Rosie to me.

Per the tune.

[Ace Rothstein]

17. Was supposedly a CPS teacher as well.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

19. Gut shot! 😬

[liberalla]

20. !

[Sneederbunk]

21. Profile heavy women?

Was it a long gun?

[Sympthsical]

22. This is the most American headline ever written

[Snooper9]

23. Okay, so A- what is the assholes name

B- where are our pictures
C- What kind of stupid statement is this "The White Sox are thinking of the victims at this time and wishing them a speedy recovery."

How about-
"The White Sox would like it if douchebags didn't bring guns in their fat rolls to our stadium"


LOL

[inthewind21]

66. LMAO

You made me blow my coke out through my nose!

[global1]

24. As Soon As I Heard The Report That These Women Were Shot At The Ballpark.....

I said to my friend as we watched the news of this shooting - that the gun was most likely her gun.

They showed were these women were sitting. There was no way that the shot would have come in from outside the park.

It sounded like to me that they were covering for themselves when they got shot.

This woman - should be banned forever from being able to see a White Sox game and she should also be fined or jailed for smuggling a gun into the park.

I wouldn't want to fly with her either - so put her on the no-fly list.

It took days for this info to come out that she smuggled the gun in - in her belly fat. The police and the White Sox were very sketchy when talking about this incident. I'm glad they finally got this woman to fess up to her crime.

It's a good thing no one else was shot or hurt - or she would be in a whole lot more trouble now.

I would have like to heard her first story as to what happened and how she initially covered up that it was her gun.

[former9thward]

45. No one has "fessed up".

She denies the story and the police have not commented. This comes from an ESPN tweet. That is it.

[Xavier Breath]

25. I hope they fully searched her

fat rolls for any other hidden contraband. There was likely a flask in there at some point, too. Yeesh.

Also, 'Guaranteed Rate Field?' My, but that does inspire the baseball romantic, eh?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

53. Maybe

half a Subway sandwich she forgot about last week?

[Floyd R. Turbo]

27. In-creases gun violence! 😁

[SYFROYH]

46. That was good. DUzy good!

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[Floyd R. Turbo]

47. 😃

[sarisataka]

29. Or maybe not...

Woman shot at Chicago White Sox game denies bringing gun to park; ATF joins investigation

One of the women who was shot at the Chicago White Sox game on Friday night, says she didn't bring the gun into Guaranteed Rate Field.

Her attorneys spoke out Tuesday and they said their client was sitting in the stands when she was hit by a bullet.

The attorneys, who said the woman is a season tickets holder, released a statement saying, "Our client underwent emergency medical treatment for a gunshot wound she received while attending a baseball game. She denies bringing a firearm into the stadium and further denies having anything to do with the discharge of a firearm at the stadium. We have reviewed photographic evidence and x-rays of our client's injuries with firearms and medical experts who confirm the gunshot wound our client sustained was not self-inflicted and was not the result of her accidentally discharging a firearm. We will continue investigating this matter further to pursue justice on behalf of our client who sustained serious personal injuries as a result of this shooting."

https://abc7chicago.com/white-sox-shooting-guaranteed-rate-field-chicago-public-schools-graham-elementary-school/13718697/

Evidence is also lacking as they further note no gunshot residue was found on her clothing and security footage showed she did not set off the metal detector when entering the stadium.

[Sympthsical]

30. What on earth . . .

So how did this story originate?

This is a weird one.

[sarisataka]

32. Titillating click bait

"Lady smuggles gun in her fat rolls" will get lots of attention. No facts needed, just "unnamed sources".

Obviously it worked as it appears to have started with an ESPN tweet (or whatever they are now) and was amplified by many news sources.

[Sympthsical]

37. It's such a specific story though

I'm so curious to know who the sources were that ESPN was confident enough to run with that.

Or maybe, as happens frequently, the story was "too good to check"

[underpants]

34. Okay. I guess we need to wait and see.

Thanks for the info

[MorbidButterflyTat]

54. Oh, her lawyer said that?

So who had the gun? And where is it now? There must have been dozens of witnesses. No one saw the shooter? Maybe he was invisible, or flew away, or disappeared into the space-time continuum, and now he's in the future, planting evidence against her...

I'd totally trust her and her lawyer.

[sarisataka]

61. Those are some very good questions

But the police haven't said they found a gun, let alone in her possession, no GSR, she passed through a metal detector that was confirmed to be working...

As much as it pains me to admit, I am going to give weight to what her lawyer says.

Tweeted accusations are fine, I guess, but a shred of evidence to support the accusation would be nice.

[Cha]

56. Wow.. TY.. the mystery continues.

[LuckyCharms]

36. The woman who was hiding the gun...

Is she single?

[underpants]

40. Giggling

My laugh of the day

[Beetwasher.]

42. "Lady"?

Using the term loosely I presume…

[Cha]

55. WHY? she should be Banned for life

TY

[former9thward]

63. Do believe a ESPN tweet?

That is the only source for this story. The woman denies it and the police will not comment.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

58. Just when you think Americans

Couldn't get any dumber...

Did it not occur to this moron that a gun is not meant to be carried in that location, because the way fat can ooze around can disengage a safety, and cause a trigger to pull?

Now MLB will be wanding everyone getting into a park.

[former9thward]

62. A trigger to pull twice?

She was hit with two bullets.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

64. If it can pull once in those circumstances

It can pull again.

[former9thward]

65. I don't believe that.

And this story is based on one person's tweet. It has no other source. The woman denies it. The Sox say there were no issues with the woman when she went through the entry gate (they have video) and the police have made no comments.

[global1]

67. Somethings Really Fishy About This Whole Incident....

A shooting inside the park. Lady(s) hit in the foot/leg. The other day the police say that the shot didn't come from outside the park.

Today - the owner of the team - Reinsdorf said in a televised news report that he talked with the police and the shot didn't come from within the park.

If you see the footage of the commotion in the stands when this happened - they were sitting pretty low in the stands - there didn't seem to be a vantage point to have a shot come from outside the park - especially if it hit at the foot or leg beneath the seats. Then we have the report that the lady that was shot - smuggled the gun in in her belly fat. Hmmmm.....

It just sounds like there is some sort of cover-up going on. I don't recall seeing the woman interviewed nor have they mentioned her name.

I would think it's in the best interest for the owner to say that the shot didn't come from within the park. The Sox are having a bad year. The worst thing that can happen this late in the season is to have people stop coming to the ballpark because they are afraid of getting shot - or that the feel that the security measures at the park are lax or faulty.

An already down year would just get worse with respect to attendance if that were the case.

Something just sounds fishy about this whole thing. Appears to be some sort of cover-up going on.

[former9thward]

68. I wonder if they have any video of that area of the stands when it happened.

Not just a tv camera swinging over that way after it happened. I agree something very fishy and some sort of cover up.