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(4,306 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 05:56 AM Aug 2023

tRump Ignores Warning by Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan: Trump is back to making deranged posts on so

During a hearing on Friday, Washington DC federal judge Tanya Chutkan warned Donald Trump’s lawyers about his behavior on the internet and stated she would treat him no different than any criminal defendant before her court.

Judge Chutkan stated that even ‘ambiguous’ statements that could be perceived as threatening would not be tolerated in her court. Judge Chutkan also stated that she would be more inclined to set an early trial date — like the one requested by Special Counsel Jack Smith for January 2, 2024 — if Trump continued his conduct aimed at prejudicing the potential jury pool.

For a brief 12 hours after the hearing, Donald Trump went relatively silent on his social media, except for mocking Ron DeSantis a few times.

However, Trump couldn’t even make it 24 hours without ignoring Judge Chutkan’s warnings.

First, late on Friday, Trump made a post about David Weiss, the Republican United States Attorney he appointed who was given a ‘Special Counsel’ designation by Attorney General Merrick Garland after requesting it for the first time in the Hunter Biden case. Trump’s post blamed the Democrats for his own appointment of Weiss and then attacked Weiss.

Trump will continue making direct threats and ambiguous statements with implied threats that Judge Chutkan warned against. Trump continues to feel he is above the law. He isn’t.

As Judge Chutkan made clear, to her, he is simply ‘criminal defendant Donald Trump’ and any behavior undermining the judicial process will be dealt with immediately.


Traitorous Trump will soon find this out the hard way.

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-ignores-warning-by-federal-judge-tanya-chutkan

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tRump Ignores Warning by Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan: Trump is back to making deranged posts on so (Original Post) 634-5789 Aug 2023 OP
?? Not a related case? bullimiami Aug 2023 #1
Yes I wonder if it applies. oldsoftie Aug 2023 #13
Although that would be wonderful SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #19
He makes me gag BlueKota Aug 2023 #37
Tell me about it. Never thought I'd have such reaction to a politician oldsoftie Aug 2023 #38
I've disliked other Republicans through the years BlueKota Aug 2023 #40
Yes; its/he's just "different'. And I dont like having these feelings. oldsoftie Aug 2023 #41
He still mentioned "deranged Jack Smith," though. thesquanderer Aug 2023 #29
What would actually happen? A fine or what? patricia92243 Aug 2023 #2
A fine would not restrain him vlyons Aug 2023 #26
She said she would move up the trail dsc Aug 2023 #36
Trump needs to keep the airwaves hot to generate campaign cash to pay his legal bills bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #3
A stern talking to. Very stern. marble falls Aug 2023 #4
No. Worster than that -- a severe reprimand. 3Hotdogs Aug 2023 #5
I don't know, given this judge's background and history... Shipwack Aug 2023 #11
I think she is being very careful to avoid a reversal on appeal localroger Aug 2023 #14
Mugshot! I WANT to see a mugshot!!! machoneman Aug 2023 #17
I want a perp walk of shame. WhiteTara Aug 2023 #32
The judge will follow the rule of Law. Period. As she said. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #15
They used to call children who acted this way "incorrigible". mwb970 Aug 2023 #6
... and then send them to a military academy. bee_peaceful Aug 2023 #8
I see what you did there- nicely played malaise Aug 2023 #20
January 2, 2024 is way too tfg friendly KS Toronado Aug 2023 #7
Will this nightmare ever end? William769 Aug 2023 #9
Lawless POS democrank Aug 2023 #10
Alright Judge Chutkan. You talk a good game. Lets see what you've got. paleotn Aug 2023 #12
+1000. Paladin Aug 2023 #23
He could get a full Disadulation or worse dclarston13 Aug 2023 #16
Doesn't have any relation.... LPBBEAR Aug 2023 #18
Agreed no relation to the case before her padah513 Aug 2023 #22
Let's hope we do find out DownriverDem Aug 2023 #21
Lock Trump up now. He is thumbing his nose at both Judge Chutkan and her court's magistrate orders. Botany Aug 2023 #24
As long as he is allowed to be above the law, lees1975 Aug 2023 #25
Not Applicable Roy Rolling Aug 2023 #27
He's not going straight to the pokey. EndlessWire Aug 2023 #34
What does Weiss have to do with anything Chutkan addressed? jcgoldie Aug 2023 #28
Can leakage from Depends running down your leg central scrutinizer Aug 2023 #30
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Aug 2023 #35
I hate it when unscrupulous outlets take advantage of our desire to see drumpf prosecuted...... Takket Aug 2023 #31
This isn't ambigulous Novara Aug 2023 #33
"B-but your honor, I didn't say it; I just retweeted it!" MayReasonRule Aug 2023 #39

BlueKota

(3,667 posts)
40. I've disliked other Republicans through the years
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:57 PM
Aug 2023

but I loathe Trump. I have run across a few narcissistic bullies when I was in school and on a former job in my adult life. He's all of them combined on steroids.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
41. Yes; its/he's just "different'. And I dont like having these feelings.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:19 PM
Aug 2023

But its also not my fault.
I feel like I'd take anything to keep him OUT of the WH

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
26. A fine would not restrain him
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:43 AM
Aug 2023

but some time in the pokey, where he can scream any manner of insults at his 6x9 gray cell walls would silence him on the internet. Now wouldn't that be lovely?

bucolic_frolic

(47,126 posts)
3. Trump needs to keep the airwaves hot to generate campaign cash to pay his legal bills
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 06:14 AM
Aug 2023

Fines don't matter, most likely. MAGA suckers will pay them.

Shipwack

(2,315 posts)
11. I don't know, given this judge's background and history...
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 07:16 AM
Aug 2023

She was very harsh on the J6 rioters. Her sentences were in general the highest ones issued, sometimes higher than what the prosecution recommended.

Her statements have been no nonsense also ie “America does not have a king”.

She asked for input from Trump’s lawyers on when they could participate in a meeting with the prosecution in the near future. Prosecution said anytime. Defense hemmed and hawed, complaining about how busy they were, and it might be several days before they could even give a tentative answer. You could almost hear her eyes rolling when she’s set the meeting for a couple of days in the future.

She don’t play.

Now that being said, I admit to being ignorant on “real world” judicial workings. I think she’d love to put Dolt 45 overnight in a cell, but what I don’t know is what factors, official and unofficial constrain her. Can she be coerced by those above her? Coerced by outside forces?

Maybe, maybe not…

Perhaps she’s perfectly happy in her position right now, so threats to her career advancement have no hold. Maybe she’d be happy to retire to spend time with family, so threatening her job would have no effect.

Maybe she’s just full of piss, vinegar, and IDGAF, and is eager to be the person to show that 350 pound bag of cellulite that there are some things that money, power, and privilege can’t buy. Or that some people just can’t be intimidated.

That’s the fantasy in my head at least. ::sigh::

That being said, if she treated him like an ordinary citizen who ignored her instructions, could a higher court repeal her punishment? Can someone else be assigned to preside the trial? I honestly don’t know; I’m just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me!

And insomnia sucks. Sorry for the wall of text.

localroger

(3,716 posts)
14. I think she is being very careful to avoid a reversal on appeal
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 07:43 AM
Aug 2023

Setting the meeting for Friday was a tell. She gave team Trump a chance to play, then slapped them for their bad faith. They can't really complain about it because the prosecution was ready any time and the defense attorneys had plenty of time to show up on the Sunday talking head shows. I think we are a couple of steps from no internet, and the next steps after that will be ankle bracelet and jail. Each step will be extremely reasonable so that nobody has any basis for complaint that she is biased against TFG but each will also be a clear signal that she is ready to go to the next if necessary. And unless his own people lock him in a room with no computer or phone, we all know what will eventually have to be done.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
15. The judge will follow the rule of Law. Period. As she said.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 07:45 AM
Aug 2023

All this characterization of her as anything else is RW talking crap…revenge is not a rule of law…

Paladin

(28,820 posts)
23. +1000.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:37 AM
Aug 2023

Yeah, how about we see trump face some actual consequences for his endless scofflaw ways? You know---like what happens to millions of other U.S. citizens. Just for a change of pace...

dclarston13

(432 posts)
16. He could get a full Disadulation or worse
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 07:45 AM
Aug 2023

Could it get this bad?
Seriously if he stops talking, he loses donation, and the news media loses clicks and viewers, so he'll keep talking.

LPBBEAR

(369 posts)
18. Doesn't have any relation....
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:05 AM
Aug 2023

to the case he is in front of Judge Chutkan for. As long as he can find a loophole to crawl through he'll keep opening his big mouth. I would imagine every Judge in every trial he's involved in will have to tell him to STFU.

padah513

(2,675 posts)
22. Agreed no relation to the case before her
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:24 AM
Aug 2023

But trump will nibble around the edges to see how far he can go. When he does I hope she can order him and his lawyers to DC for an emergency hearing. Regardless of whether she jails him or not, it'll shake him up. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if that's possible.

DownriverDem

(6,660 posts)
21. Let's hope we do find out
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:21 AM
Aug 2023

Every day it's trump trump trump. He gives the finger to our system of law and government.

Botany

(72,535 posts)
24. Lock Trump up now. He is thumbing his nose at both Judge Chutkan and her court's magistrate orders.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:39 AM
Aug 2023

It is time to end this non stop Trump Shit Show.

In just 3 to 5 days with no spray on tanner, hair styling, lifts in his shoes, shoulder pads, adult diapers,
and having to follow the do what the correction officers tell him to do will be the end of him. Especially
if they get some pictures of "the real Donald Trump" leaving custody looking old, bald, pale, and stoop
shouldered and the world gets to see those images.

lees1975

(6,008 posts)
25. As long as he is allowed to be above the law,
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:39 AM
Aug 2023

he will continue to think he is.

So follow through with the threats, and put him in jail until the trial. It's time to clean house and take out the trash.

Roy Rolling

(7,180 posts)
27. Not Applicable
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:45 AM
Aug 2023

A post about Weiss doesn’t violate the Judge’s order. Case closed, she won’t act to demonstrate judicial restraint—adherence to the legal status that the cases are unrelated.

But let Trump step on the third rail—mentioning Chutkan or witnesses in her case—

He will fry quicker than we can pop the popcorn to enjoy it. 😅

EndlessWire

(7,264 posts)
34. He's not going straight to the pokey.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 05:31 PM
Aug 2023

Not unless he physically threatens somebody. Then, maybe. But, contaminating the jury pool might interest her. Makes her job harder.

He's going to start speaking in code next. Then claim she's wrong about his intent. She's not stupid. But, he has enough to hang his hat on. The best chance he had to see the inside of the jail was the "Come after me, I'll come after you" quote. But, as she said, there was no motion in front of her for that. She did have it included in the protection briefs, so she is aware of it.

Takket

(22,581 posts)
31. I hate it when unscrupulous outlets take advantage of our desire to see drumpf prosecuted......
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 03:03 PM
Aug 2023

but posting headlines like this to get us to click on articles only to find out no violation actually occurred of the judge's orders.

This is a Fox News level of "getting you to tune in by telling you what you want to hear" piece of clickbait.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
33. This isn't ambigulous
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 04:31 PM
Aug 2023
Judge Chutkan stated that even ‘ambiguous’ statements that could be perceived as threatening would not be tolerated in her court. Judge Chutkan also stated that she would be more inclined to set an early trial date — like the one requested by Special Counsel Jack Smith for January 2, 2024 — if Trump continued his conduct aimed at prejudicing the potential jury pool.


Let's see what you've got, Judge. Start by moving up the trial date.

MayReasonRule

(1,852 posts)
39. "B-but your honor, I didn't say it; I just retweeted it!"
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 06:36 PM
Aug 2023
"It's cool, I'm not really sending you to jail. This bailiff is."
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