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I make this prediction. I will have a Told You So moment (Original Post) prodigitalson Aug 2023 OP
Yep, sounds about right! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2023 #1
I'm betting he has been on the phone to Judge Cannon already Walleye Aug 2023 #2
The mob boss wannabe will try something to intimidate. QED Aug 2023 #3
If he does that he goes straight to prison, am I right? FakeNoose Aug 2023 #13
Yeah, but we have to wait 3 years till someone writes a tell all book to find out? Meadowoak Aug 2023 #4
and his wrist will get slapped. joshdawg Aug 2023 #5
Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #27
thanks for posting joshdawg Aug 2023 #29
Hey, that's not much of a prediction! Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #6
If you were a juror, would you believe he'd actually pay? LakeArenal Aug 2023 #7
I think he'll try intimidation first. It's cheaper JohnnyRingo Aug 2023 #8
It's in the mix. Any means necessary. czarjak Aug 2023 #9
It will be a perfect call jcgoldie Aug 2023 #10
I hope the jurors are in a separate room, as they were for the George Floyd murder trial. Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #11
That's a good point - hooray for 21st century technology! FakeNoose Aug 2023 #12
If they find out the jurors' names, which wnylib Aug 2023 #21
Roger Stone will nearly kill himself to get the names of the impaneled jurors. no_hypocrisy Aug 2023 #14
Stochastic terrorism central scrutinizer Aug 2023 #15
Oh no doubt. But..JMO I think the odds are against him PortTack Aug 2023 #16
out of all of those jurors in all of those cases (and I mean the trial juries/not the grand juries) prodigitalson Aug 2023 #32
I believe sources are saying the case in DC and most likely in GA will be innominate. PortTack Aug 2023 #34
I wonder if he and John Gotti were acquaintances. Siwsan Aug 2023 #17
I'm sure they knew of each other ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #26
According to documentary's I had seen in 2017, they were very well acquainted msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #30
Trumpies worship him for free ThoughtCriminal Aug 2023 #18
That's a shame. msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #31
Keep the jurors' names anonymous. gab13by13 Aug 2023 #19
He will do anything to avoid the orange jump suit. He's desperate. n/t jerseyjim Aug 2023 #20
I thought he liked orange? Auggy74 Aug 2023 #22
A couple of prison tats to enhance the look... rubbersole Aug 2023 #23
Somebody will try do it on his behalf. RandySF Aug 2023 #24
I dunno ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #25
K & R canetoad Aug 2023 #28
...and he will suffer no consequences. Take that to the bank. 617Blue Aug 2023 #33

QED

(2,751 posts)
3. The mob boss wannabe will try something to intimidate.
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 05:15 PM
Aug 2023

And he or whomever acts for him will be so clumsy at it he'll get caught. We'd probably see a Don Jr video bragging about it. He'll definitely try something because he thinks he's so smart and the laws don't apply to him.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
13. If he does that he goes straight to prison, am I right?
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 06:02 PM
Aug 2023

"Go straight to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200."

Response to joshdawg (Reply #5)

Beastly Boy

(9,509 posts)
6. Hey, that's not much of a prediction!
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 05:29 PM
Aug 2023

The challenge is, how many jurors is he going to try to bribe?

Now THAT's an I told you so-worthy prediction!

JohnnyRingo

(18,669 posts)
8. I think he'll try intimidation first. It's cheaper
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 05:34 PM
Aug 2023

I don't think he'll do it directly either. He'll put someone else up to it and get caught that way.

You're right though.

Lonestarblue

(10,117 posts)
11. I hope the jurors are in a separate room, as they were for the George Floyd murder trial.
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 05:49 PM
Aug 2023

Neither Trump nor his attorneys need to get a look at the jurors or surreptitiously photograph them so they can be ID’d for Trump’s goons to threaten. I suspect Trump is too afraid of Judge Chutkan to do any threatening himself.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
12. That's a good point - hooray for 21st century technology!
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 05:55 PM
Aug 2023

The jury can be totally sequestered, yet not miss a thing that's going on in the main room.

I hope Jack Smith has the authority to order that up.

wnylib

(21,685 posts)
21. If they find out the jurors' names, which
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 07:02 PM
Aug 2023

they might be able to do with threats or bribes to someone in the court system, they can get their addresses, phone numbers, and posdibly find some online photos or driver's licenses.

In today's world, I don't th8nk that anonymity is possible.

central scrutinizer

(11,665 posts)
15. Stochastic terrorism
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 06:16 PM
Aug 2023

He will obliquely threaten all the jurors and count on an unhinged MAGAt (no shortage of those) to carry out the act. “I take no responsibility at all”

PortTack

(32,813 posts)
16. Oh no doubt. But..JMO I think the odds are against him
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 06:18 PM
Aug 2023

1. The j/6 case and the case coming out of GA, they know he will try and are ready for it. If loose cannon trie’s something funny in FL she may, like in the past get away with it, temporarily. But she may land herself in jail if not careful

2. We’re talking about 3 jury pools, they aren’t going to be able to mess with all 3..again…JMO

prodigitalson

(2,449 posts)
32. out of all of those jurors in all of those cases (and I mean the trial juries/not the grand juries)
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 04:05 PM
Aug 2023

there is no way, with access to all those people's identities, that he isn't going to tamper with someone somehow.

tamapering is literally what he does...when it come to everything

PortTack

(32,813 posts)
34. I believe sources are saying the case in DC and most likely in GA will be innominate.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 03:41 AM
Aug 2023

Not sure he has enough clout left to convince anyone to help him find a juror. He’s not going to be able to pay them. His threats of blackmail or politcal power grows weaker by the day.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
26. I'm sure they knew of each other
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 08:21 PM
Aug 2023

I doubt Gotti associated with someone stupid enough to bankrupt a casino. He wasn't the brightest guy out there, but he wasn't incompetent from it, either. He always struck me as the type to have a zero-tolerance policy for stupid and incompetent, and I don't think it mattered if such a putz worked for him or not. Losers surround themselves with losers, and, no matter what else could be said about him, Gotti wasn't a loser.

A violent psychopath, sure. But not a loser.

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
30. According to documentary's I had seen in 2017, they were very well acquainted
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 09:56 AM
Aug 2023

at the moment, I'm blanking out on the investigator's name, his book and film. The book was used however, in the making of the film Gotti that released in 2018 I think. Very interesting film, though I do not recall tfg's name was referenced in that film.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,050 posts)
18. Trumpies worship him for free
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 06:30 PM
Aug 2023

He just needs one for a mis-trial. But he now has multiple jury pools to worry about.

I keep thinking back to Gov. Symington's (AZ) fraud and extortion trial. There was one juror, a Republican Precinct leader who told multiple lies to get on the jury and refused to deliberate. The other jurors asked the judge to have her removed, which happened, and the stand-by juror that replaced her voted with the other 11 to convict. Symington successfully appealed on the basis that the juror was improperly removed. Before a new trial was started, Symington was pardoned by President Clinton. I don't think the reason for the pardon was ever explained except that Symington had once saved Clinton from drowning while working as a life guard.

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
31. That's a shame.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 10:06 AM
Aug 2023

The real world of power and influence over justice does so much damage to the systems we, as a society, need to have faith in.

it's the accumulation of that sort of thing, to the point of common place which is enormously destructive.

fixing it is nearly impossible to accomplish when it is so wide spread and deeply embedded.







Auggy74

(60 posts)
22. I thought he liked orange?
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 07:22 PM
Aug 2023

I mean look at how he slathers it on his face every time he shows up in public.

Geez, you think you know a guy...

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
25. I dunno
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 08:14 PM
Aug 2023

If it's a bribe, it won't be money. He's too selfish for that, so it would have to be something else. A high-paying government job if he's re-elected sounds about his speed.

Intimidation is cheaper and easier.

canetoad

(17,200 posts)
28. K & R
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:28 AM
Aug 2023

For the idea, even though I don't really think it will happen. It's more plausible that rather than bribe, he threatens.

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