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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 07:09 AM Aug 2023

More evidence of Judge Cannon's incompetence

According to a report from the Daily Beast's Jose Pagliery, Cannon, who is currently overseeing a deeply complex and highly scrutinized federal case where former president Donald Trump is accused of obstruction of justice, made an "egregious" error where she did not give a jury an option of finding a defendant "not guilty" and now that verdict is being appealed.

As the report notes, in the case of Christopher Wilkins, she provided jurors with a verdict form that did not list "not guilty" as an option and defense lawyer Jeffrey Garland formally filed an appeal on Thursday.

*snip*

As the report points out, Cannon has scant trial experience and, combined with her earlier rulings on the investigation into Trump's hoarding of documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort that were overturned by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in rough fashion, the latest episode raises more questions about her competence.

*snip*

"Last month, The New York Times discovered that Cannon has only handled four trials, collectively accounting for just 14 days in court—less than three weeks of experience before handling a potential turning point for American democracy," the Pagliery wrote. "Last week, Reuters exposed how Cannon kept family members of an accused viewer of child sex abuse locked out of her courtroom during some of his trial in June, violating his Sixth Amendment rights to have a public trial—and somehow forgot to swear in the prospective jury pool, the most basic of mandatory procedures."

https://www.rawstory.com/aileen-cannon-donald-trump/

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More evidence of Judge Cannon's incompetence (Original Post) allegorical oracle Aug 2023 OP
So when does it become enough to boot her off the case? And then Scrivener7 Aug 2023 #1
He seems to want both judges kicked off the trial jimfields33 Aug 2023 #2
All Republicans know that every judge in the country is just looking for an excuse to 3Hotdogs Aug 2023 #3
True enough NJCher Aug 2023 #5
When exactly did Trump say he wants Cannon off the case? Kingofalldems Aug 2023 #12
He think she's unfair. jimfields33 Aug 2023 #13
I thought he was happy with Cannon PatSeg Aug 2023 #14
He definitely thinks Tanya Chutkan is unfair jimfields33 Aug 2023 #15
Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Aug 2023 #19
www.google.com jimfields33 Aug 2023 #20
Okay, that makes sense PatSeg Aug 2023 #21
My Money Says Jack's Already Strategized Relevant Permutations And Iterations Of The Matter MayReasonRule Aug 2023 #23
I totally believe that of Jack. But still, it galls me that we have to watch this moron Scrivener7 Aug 2023 #24
Nat-C or Nazi or Cannon or Trump - No Matter The Name, The Fascist Evil Remains The Same. MayReasonRule Aug 2023 #26
Meanwhile NJCher Aug 2023 #4
Incompetence is an asset if you're a Republican. Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #6
The more she drags this out, the easier it is for Jack Smith to push the calender on the J6 trial. Raven123 Aug 2023 #7
Agree.n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #17
Oops... PCIntern Aug 2023 #8
Kick dalton99a Aug 2023 #9
Third-world jurisprudence personified peppertree Aug 2023 #10
Forgot to swear in the jury. Grins Aug 2023 #11
Giving a jury only a "guilty" option on their verdict slips was pretty bad, too. allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #16
Federalist Society idiot. Liberal In Texas Aug 2023 #18
If I were her I'd be embarrassed! She needs a Judging 101 beginner's course. liberalla Aug 2023 #22
Wouldn't you? They are the definition of "shameless." Scrivener7 Aug 2023 #25

Scrivener7

(51,104 posts)
1. So when does it become enough to boot her off the case? And then
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 07:13 AM
Aug 2023

do we start over? In which case, tfg gets more of the delay he wants.

3Hotdogs

(12,505 posts)
3. All Republicans know that every judge in the country is just looking for an excuse to
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:08 AM
Aug 2023

preside over Trump's conviction. Donald is also well aware of this fact. So he will challenge the impartiality of each and every judge. Replacing a judge takes months so expect challenges to go on until, maybe 2036or until a "Gerald Ford" gives him a pardon.

NJCher

(35,884 posts)
5. True enough
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:43 AM
Aug 2023

The only saving grace is that there are so many nets out there for him now that it almost doesn’t make a difference.

Cannon will continue to make a fool out of herself and she and Clarence can be the laughingstock and source of continued embarrassment for the judicial system which is in need of reform. I think Whitehouse’s proposals are on the table for consideration. Heard this from him in a tv interview last night.

jimfields33

(16,251 posts)
15. He definitely thinks Tanya Chutkan is unfair
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 10:18 AM
Aug 2023

But he’s pissed at the other for not scheduling after election. He thought since she was one of his judges that he’d get goodies. She basically said no.

PatSeg

(47,822 posts)
21. Okay, that makes sense
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 12:53 PM
Aug 2023

Basically, Trump will be pissed off at everyone eventually. Of course, it will never dawn on him that perhaps HE is the problem.

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
23. My Money Says Jack's Already Strategized Relevant Permutations And Iterations Of The Matter
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 04:55 PM
Aug 2023

He's had a pink mist playbook that's gotten us to here, which is honestly astonishing. Getting to here has been no easy feat. He's yet to demonstrate a lack of preparedness for even outlier outcomes.

I won't personally lose any sleep over it tonight.
My money says Jack's got it covered.

Scrivener7

(51,104 posts)
24. I totally believe that of Jack. But still, it galls me that we have to watch this moron
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 04:57 PM
Aug 2023

kissing tfg's ass.

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
26. Nat-C or Nazi or Cannon or Trump - No Matter The Name, The Fascist Evil Remains The Same.
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 05:06 PM
Aug 2023

We're on the midst of a Spanish Inquisition Y'all Qaeda Nat-C Fascist GOP style.

Cannon is an inquisitor, as are each and every one of the other fascists that are an unfortunate part of our judiciary.

They have three goals, the intimidation, incarceration and extermination of anyone or anything that dare oppose their sordid and depraved crimes against humanity.

I feel ya'!

NJCher

(35,884 posts)
4. Meanwhile
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:33 AM
Aug 2023

These families did not get justice so they have to appeal. More money, more time.

Trump’s incompetence continues to hobble our democratic system.

Raven123

(4,981 posts)
7. The more she drags this out, the easier it is for Jack Smith to push the calender on the J6 trial.
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:53 AM
Aug 2023

Yes, she is incompetent, but letting drag on just a little bit longer is ok with me, as long as DOJ makes sure she doesn’t taint the case somehow. Quite a balancing act.

PCIntern

(25,688 posts)
8. Oops...
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:58 AM
Aug 2023

It reminds me of when I was treating a Philadelphia judge who was presiding over a very well-publicized murder trial, and I knew this judge for years, and he said to me something about hanging the guy high. I said judge I will pretend I didn’t hear that, and he replied don’t worry everybody knows I feel this way.

Great… Just great.

Grins

(7,291 posts)
11. Forgot to swear in the jury.
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 09:46 AM
Aug 2023

Step ONE in any court proceeding.

She had to start all over. This may be my fav Cannon story.

liberalla

(9,289 posts)
22. If I were her I'd be embarrassed! She needs a Judging 101 beginner's course.
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 02:49 PM
Aug 2023

Doesn't she know someone who can help her with how she runs her court room?
She needs training wheels.

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