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orangecrush

(19,908 posts)
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:36 AM Aug 2023

Will Donald Trump be jailed before his trial? (Poll)

The judge then warned Trump: “You have heard your conditions of release. It is important you comply. You may be held pending trial in this case if you violate the conditions of release.”

She asked Trump: “Do you understand these warnings and consequence, sir? Are you prepared to comply?”

Trump responded: “Yes.”

But not 24 hours later, Trump posted on social media a message that could be understood as an attempt to influence potential jurors or retaliate against any witness prepared to testify against him: He wrote: “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!”

....

These statements directly violate the conditions of Trump’s release pending trial.

They also could inflame Trump supporters, thereby endangering those who are trying to administer justice, such as Smith and Chutkan, as well as potential witnesses like Pence.

It’s going to get a lot worse unless Chutkan – on her own initiative or at the urging of prosecutors – orders Trump’s lawyers to show cause why his release pending trial should not be revoked, in light of his repeated violation of the conditions of his release.

This would at least put Trump on notice that he will be treated like any other criminal defendant who violates conditions of release pending trial.

That’s what the rule of law is all about.

At this moment, about 400,000 criminal defendants are in jail in the United States awaiting trial because they didn’t meet a condition of their release.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/07/will-donald-trump-be-jailed-before-trial




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He is going to be detained pre trial like anyone else who violates conditions
5 (11%)
He will stay free to wreak havoc
13 (30%)
He will receive his 10,000th stern warning
25 (57%)
What Judge?
1 (2%)
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LetMyPeopleVote

(147,536 posts)
1. Here is TFG' signature on his terms of release which iclude pledge not to tamper with witnesses
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:41 AM
Aug 2023

TFG has already violated the terms of release by violating the pledge not to tamper with or retaliate against witnesses/victims/informants or officers of the court


no_hypocrisy

(46,717 posts)
4. Quasi-punishment
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:49 AM
Aug 2023

1. He may be under "house detention" for a few weeks, months perhaps. That cuts down on rallies.

But

2. He will either keep posting on social media, and if not, then have his flying monkeys post on his behalf.

orangecrush

(19,908 posts)
7. Can't jail him because
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:53 AM
Aug 2023


He needs Secret Service protection.

That's Secret Services problem, not the Judge's.

Let them figure it out.

Tree Lady

(11,632 posts)
12. Why can't he go to a military prison
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:16 PM
Aug 2023

and be guarded by the military with SS in a office nearby with maybe cameras on the door of his cell for them to watch??

brooklynite

(95,639 posts)
15. Because he's not in the military...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:40 PM
Aug 2023

…and the military are no better or worse at guarding prisoners than civilian guards

pwb

(11,496 posts)
5. Everybody I know is better than him so
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 11:51 AM
Aug 2023

lock him up. Cut out his tongue and I will forget it all happened.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,889 posts)
10. Roger Stone threatened witnesses repeatedly
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:12 PM
Aug 2023

And was eventually gagged from MSM and social media, but never detained pretrial.

Just a counterpoint to the erroneous “anyone else” myth.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,390 posts)
11. I think at some point he wil be jailed, pre-trial,
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:13 PM
Aug 2023

but due to who he is and what he is doing, he will be given enough rope... As in communication ability from Jail. Phone, laptop as well as access to campaign manager...


IMO

CrispyQ

(36,812 posts)
17. We figure out a way to gag the fucker & shut him up or he will wreak havoc forever.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:44 PM
Aug 2023

Which was my vote. We've already shown we won't/don't/can't handle him.

berksdem

(616 posts)
18. I would be
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 12:44 PM
Aug 2023

absolutely shocked if her were detained pretrial. Above all else he is not held to account like any other citizen.

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