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This focus on Alitos claim of absolute immunity from democratic accountability, however, obscured an equally strange and offensive comment from the interview. After describing his conservative colleagues differing methodologies, the justice told his interlocutors: I dont see that theres a difference in interpretive method among the three liberal members of the court. His message was hard to miss: The Republican-appointed justices have unique and complex approaches to the law, very serious differences that lead to fissures within the 63 supermajority, demonstrating intellectual integrity over results-based judging. The Democratic-appointed justices, by contrast, apply the exact same methods, which typically lead to the same outcomes. The implication seems to be that the conservatives are neutral arbiters of the law who follow unbiased judicial philosophies to their logical conclusions, while the progressive justices are inclined toward activist judging to reach liberal ends.
Conservative media figures frequently flatten the three progressive justices jurisprudence in this way, accusing them of voting in lockstep to reach Democrats preferred results. It is no surprise that Alito would echo this complaint, given his evidently avid consumption of right-wing media. But only a victim of late-stage Fox Newsbrain could support this conclusion. Todays left-leaning justices use very different tools to interpret the law. Their methodologies are principled and personal, leading to surprise rulings every term. On many big issues of the day, do they reach the same bottom-line conclusion? Sure. But on plenty of other big issues, they disagree sharply. And even when they do reach parallel verdicts, they often follow divergent paths to reach their destination.
Before turning to those justices, lets examine the dichotomy that Alito set out in his therapy session with the articles authors, James Taranto and David Rivkin. (Side note: Rivkin is a lawyer with business before the court in a case next term and also is representing Leonard Leos efforts to block the Senate Judiciary Committees investigations into Leos dark money groups). Alito highlighted his own disagreement with Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and John Roberts to illustrate divisions within the conservative bloc. Of Thomas, he noted a tendency to give less weight to precedent, which Alito deemed a virtue of his jurisprudence because he sticks to his guns. Of Gorsuch, he pointed out a focus on pure legal questions over real-world impact, calling the justice definitely not a consequentialist. Of Roberts, he said the chief justice puts a high premium on consensus and seeks to protect the prerogatives of the judiciary. Then, on the other hand, he put the progressive justices in the same box, accusing Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson of using the same method, without elaborating on what it might be. (A real journalist might have asked the justice to flesh out this remark, but there were no real journalists in the room.)
Alito is mistaken.
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NoMoreRepugs
(9,503 posts)niyad
(113,798 posts)orleans
(34,094 posts)GenThePerservering
(1,864 posts)in jurisprudence says what?
Freethinker65
(10,102 posts)He truly believes that by seeking out and citing obscure laws throughout history to take rights away from groups he personally despises, he should be admired.
Blue Owl
(50,554 posts)Sympthsical
(9,176 posts)Before people send him another $20 to make another cheap YouTube video, know that he was one of the driving forces that got us Alito.
madaboutharry
(40,245 posts)Look at him. He is a man full of piss and vinegar and a dark hateful heart.
He looks like a miserable and unhappy man regardless of all his power and privilege.
Dave says
(4,636 posts)Couldnt justices be indicted for receiving bribes? This wouldnt be Congress trying to impose rules of ethical behavior. Take the man out from the judge frock. Then they are just men. And, if we are that shining city on the hill it would be because no man stands above the law. Arrest them for accepting bribes.
Maybe in a just world
carpetbagger
(4,392 posts)I've been a broken record on this one though.....
A future court needs to look at this court's decisions, particularly with decisions would be different if Alito and Thomas recused based on their compensation, starting with Citizens United, and throw out the notion that a compromised judge can set a precedent.
If we ever get to a court where there is ethics oversight, even internally, it would be a strong possibility that the winds would shift sufficiently for that court to then deny stare decisis to Clarence Thomas' sugar daddies.
lees1975
(3,916 posts)But the problem is, who would do it? And are the laws tough enough to get a conviction? We are seeing, in our time, one of the weaknesses of the Constitution, which is that it is difficult to enforce laws on those who are in government, because it takes a sense of patriotism and national unity that partisanship has caused to evaporate from Congress, especially among Republicans who count the seats they have, instead of worring about the corruption they spread.
Alito is one of those who believes that he is above the law because he is a supreme court justice. And technically, as long as no one does anything about it, and there's no public pressure or demand to act, he is above the law.
Zeitghost
(3,892 posts)If you have evidence.
But it would still take impeachment to remove them from the bench.
The Constitution gives Congress three checks on the Supreme Court. The power to approve appointments, the power to impeach Justices and the power to regulate appellate jurisdiction.
Pas-de-Calais
(9,911 posts)RobinA
(9,903 posts)after my first thought - Is this guy off his meds?
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)Silent Type
(3,017 posts)Initech
(100,132 posts)Also fuck you Wall St. Journal!
SunSeeker
(51,789 posts)Such a bitter right wing political hack, and flaming asshole.
niyad
(113,798 posts)three progressive justices, and that makes ole 17th century sammy peptic. What do the three progressive judges have in obvious common??? THEY ARE WOMEN.