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Nevilledog

(51,302 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:30 PM Jul 2023

'You Are a P*ssy': McCarthy and Swalwell Get in House Floor Feud

https://www.thedailybeast.com/you-are-a-pssy-mccarthy-and-swalwell-get-in-house-floor-feud

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https://archive.li/Mye1h

There’s a story going around Capitol Hill that Democrats insist you just have to hear. It’s about how Speaker Kevin McCarthy is “a pussy.”

On June 21, the day Republicans voted to censure Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), Democrats stood on the House floor and shouted “Shame!” at their GOP colleagues. As the spectacle was taking place, one of the leaders of the demonstration, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA), was standing in the well of the House near the speaker's podium and delivered some harsh words to his fellow Californian.

“This is pathetic,” Swalwell allegedly told McCarthy, who was presiding over the House at the time. “You’re weak. You're a weak man."

(You can actually see—and slightly hear—Swalwell staring at McCarthy and calling him "weak" at 3:49 in the tweet below.)

The exchange was conveyed to The Daily Beast by two separate lawmakers. When reached by phone, Swalwell said he would not discuss the story with the press, but he also did not deny the account. McCarthy’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment.


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'You Are a P*ssy': McCarthy and Swalwell Get in House Floor Feud (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2023 OP
👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #1
Not trying to steal your post, just adding the juicy part. Westcoastguy99 Jul 2023 #2
Eh? Swalwell would kick the dogshit out of him. LuckyCharms Jul 2023 #6
Let's see: Polybius Jul 2023 #19
I'll give it to Swalwell ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #44
Swallwell is smart enough not to make a threatening move 1st. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2023 #8
Shame on Swalwell. Does he not know that McCarthy isn't "weak"? He's a poor ballless Autumn Jul 2023 #3
Ohhhh love that spork three toes carry's McCarthy balls in her pocket line! kimbutgar Jul 2023 #4
That was an accurate statement. BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #5
THIS! SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #10
there are plenty of women who stand up to Trump Skittles Jul 2023 #14
100% correct Snooper9 Jul 2023 #21
He also have called him a cock and this great follow up line: Habitation Jul 2023 #46
Well, it's true. Scrivener7 Jul 2023 #7
Kevin the Klown earned that like's earned nothing else in his miserable life peppertree Jul 2023 #9
Where's the lie? In It to Win It Jul 2023 #11
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #12
yes, to be more correct Skittles Jul 2023 #13
current stereotypes aside... RussBLib Jul 2023 #15
yup Skittles Jul 2023 #16
Here's Rep. Swalwell's contact info, you can let him know there's an issue with his choice of words. tenderfoot Jul 2023 #17
so glad you're so "concerned" Skittles Jul 2023 #20
I don't have any issue with what he said. Autumn Jul 2023 #40
I have always considered the term pussy in this sense to be short for pussycat. edisdead Jul 2023 #18
Come on iemanja Jul 2023 #22
Who is defending it? edisdead Jul 2023 #26
I think the confusion is you are replying on a smartphone Snooper9 Jul 2023 #27
The purpose of the insult is to feminize a man iemanja Jul 2023 #42
Ok gonna say it one more time edisdead Jul 2023 #43
Really? Snooper9 Jul 2023 #24
What does that have to do with it? edisdead Jul 2023 #25
Been hearing that term for years and, as a female, never took particular offense. The British comedy allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #30
In this context, it's fierce contempt -- not double entendre. Duncan Grant Jul 2023 #31
I agree as to its meaning. Am saying it never bothered me like the "C" word does. BTW, my allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #35
Exactly. edisdead Jul 2023 #38
Gtfo. MrsCoffee Jul 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author edisdead Jul 2023 #36
There actually is a bunch of linguistics articles and discussions about this word. edisdead Jul 2023 #37
Context is everything. MrsCoffee Jul 2023 #39
OMG Snooper9 Jul 2023 #23
This is the lowest form of discourse at DU. Duncan Grant Jul 2023 #28
It is not tenderfoot Jul 2023 #29
It doesn't bother me either. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #33
I have seen a lot lower. Autumn Jul 2023 #41
It only takes one to remove him from leadership, right? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #32
Wrong. ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #45

Westcoastguy99

(14 posts)
2. Not trying to steal your post, just adding the juicy part.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:42 PM
Jul 2023

“McCarthy said, ‘If you ever say something like that to me again, I’m gonna kick the shit out of you,’” a member claimed to The Daily Beast.

Another member who witnessed the exchange provided even more context: “They were in each other’s faces. Basically nose-to-nose. And Swalwell said something like, ‘Are we really gonna do this?’”

After some back-and-forth, with chests puffed out, McCarthy issued a challenge to Swalwell: “Call me a pussy again, and I’ll kick your ass,” the Speaker allegedly said.

While both members told nearly identical versions of this story, they both delivered Swalwell’s response in exactly the same way.

“You. Are. A. Pussy,” Swalwell told McCarthy.

After both men stared each other down for another moment, McCarthy eventually relented. He stepped to the side and let Swalwell through to the bathroom

LuckyCharms

(17,472 posts)
6. Eh? Swalwell would kick the dogshit out of him.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jul 2023

McCarthy should be more aware of who he is physically threatening.

Polybius

(15,533 posts)
19. Let's see:
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:11 PM
Jul 2023

Eric Swalwell: 42, 5'9, 160
Kevin McCarthy: 58, 5'11, 165

Pretty close specs, but I'll give the edge to Swalwell because of the big age different. I do know never to say I'm certain without seeing either fight however, as some of the biggest assholes in UFC and boxing are Republicans.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
44. I'll give it to Swalwell
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 12:55 AM
Jul 2023

He wins on the mental toughness, and I think he originally had a sports scholarship for college, until he broke his thumbs--playing football (real kind, not American). Football players don't break all that many bones. The ones who are scrappers do.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,786 posts)
8. Swallwell is smart enough not to make a threatening move 1st.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:50 PM
Jul 2023

He'd take McCarthy's first punch....then he'd clean his clock.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
3. Shame on Swalwell. Does he not know that McCarthy isn't "weak"? He's a poor ballless
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:46 PM
Jul 2023

bastard. Sporky Greene carries his balls in her pocket, she won them fair and square.

Swalwell is one hell of a man

BigmanPigman

(51,674 posts)
5. That was an accurate statement.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jul 2023

We already knew this. I think the majority of the GQP falls under this category. If they had balls they would have stood up to tRump for the last 7 years instead of kissing his fat ass.

Habitation

(5,644 posts)
46. He also have called him a cock and this great follow up line:
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 05:24 AM
Jul 2023

"You are not going to cock out on me. I'd say pussy, but let's be honest, which one's weaker."
Margo, the magicians

peppertree

(21,720 posts)
9. Kevin the Klown earned that like's earned nothing else in his miserable life
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:19 PM
Jul 2023

Especially his defense contract millions.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

RussBLib

(9,058 posts)
15. current stereotypes aside...
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 09:53 PM
Jul 2023

we know a pussy can take quite a pounding and come back strong, whereas one blow to the testicle and guys will curl up in the fetal position.

Skittles

(153,314 posts)
16. yup
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 10:19 PM
Jul 2023

and apparently now, here on DU, it is considered by some to be "clutching your pearls" to point out blatant sexism

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
40. I don't have any issue with what he said.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 10:48 AM
Jul 2023

Sometimes you got to get down in the gutter with repukes. I applaud Swalwell for giving that asshole hell. He spoke truth to power and described the ass perfectly.

edisdead

(1,967 posts)
18. I have always considered the term pussy in this sense to be short for pussycat.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 10:50 PM
Jul 2023

I know people equate it to a woman’s body part but that has never made any sense to me at all.

iemanja

(53,137 posts)
22. Come on
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:37 PM
Jul 2023

You know very well what it means. It refers to a woman's vagina.
It's amazing how people will make any excuse to defend someone in their tribe.
I like Swalwell a lot, but he made a mistake here. Is that so hard to say?

edisdead

(1,967 posts)
26. Who is defending it?
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:38 AM
Jul 2023

I am not defending it. I am just saying that to me it doesn’t make any sense to call someone “A woman’s genitals”.

On the other hand calling someone a pussy at actually has been a thing and for a long time. In current days language you are probably rifht in that many people mean that when they use it. But it just doesn’t make any sense to me.

 

Snooper9

(484 posts)
27. I think the confusion is you are replying on a smartphone
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 01:37 AM
Jul 2023

instead of your home computer-
Sentence structure is throwing some of us off...

iemanja

(53,137 posts)
42. The purpose of the insult is to feminize a man
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 04:42 PM
Jul 2023

and thereby present him as less, as weaker. Your invention is false, period.

And the entire thread is full of people defending it. That is indeed what your post does by distorting the term.

edisdead

(1,967 posts)
43. Ok gonna say it one more time
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 11:42 PM
Jul 2023

It doesn’t make sense to me that it is used that way. I am not saying it isn’t used that way. It is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say.

 

Snooper9

(484 posts)
24. Really?
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:48 PM
Jul 2023

edisdead (860 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217897515#post51

51. That seems off to me.
Not sure if penile penetration is the definition of rape. I have heard many women say that it isn’t but that any unwanted penetration should be considered as d rape.

edisdead

(1,967 posts)
25. What does that have to do with it?
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:35 AM
Jul 2023

Because I said that most women I know consider any unwanted penetration to be rape that has something to do with me thinking the term “Pussy” as a put down makes more sense when you consider it being short for pussy cat?

What did my other post have to do with it?

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
30. Been hearing that term for years and, as a female, never took particular offense. The British comedy
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 03:38 AM
Jul 2023

"Are You Being Served?" characters used it all the time with a double meaning...couched as Mrs. Slocomb's cat's behavior. Never heard any objections and never figured out when and/or why it became regarded as outrageously sexist.

Duncan Grant

(8,297 posts)
31. In this context, it's fierce contempt -- not double entendre.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 04:05 AM
Jul 2023

Of all the insults available to men to express contempt for one another, why choose “pussy”?

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
35. I agree as to its meaning. Am saying it never bothered me like the "C" word does. BTW, my
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:25 AM
Jul 2023

Dictionary of Slang and Euphemism cites that pussy relates to "puss," which has been traced back to the 1600s as a British colloquial with the same references it has today.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
34. Gtfo.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 06:45 AM
Jul 2023

When using it as an insult, it’s never been short for pussycat. But I guess it’s fun to pretend.

Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #34)

 

Snooper9

(484 posts)
23. OMG
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 11:38 PM
Jul 2023

Not sure how this will play but you have the site owners approval.

So many memories by so many----

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
45. Wrong.
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 12:57 AM
Jul 2023

It takes only one to propose his removal. They still have to vote on it, and get the necessary 218 votes to oust him.

It took 15 ballots to get him the office. They don't have what it takes to get their act together to remove him.

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