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babylonsister

(171,105 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:38 PM Nov 2012

Accuser Recants Allegation Against Elmo Puppeteer

Accuser Recants Allegation Against Elmo Puppeteer
By BRIAN STELTER and ELIZABETH JENSEN


5:29 p.m. | Updated The man who accused Kevin Clash, the voice and puppeteer of the “Sesame Street” character Elmo, of an underage sexual relationship has recanted that claim, his lawyer said on Tuesday. The reversal came a day after the claim was first published by the gossip Web site TMZ.

Mr. Clash has taken a leave of absence from Sesame Workshop, the organization that produces “Sesame Street,” to challenge the allegations.

Andreozzi & Associates, a law firm that said it represented the accuser said in a statement that “he wants it to be known that his sexual relationship with Mr. Clash was an adult consensual relationship.” The statement added, “He will have no further comment on the matter.”

The accuser’s identity has not been disclosed.

Mr. Clash said through a spokeswoman: “I am relieved that this painful allegation has been put to rest. I will not discuss it further.”

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Accuser Recants Allegation Against Elmo Puppeteer (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
His ID should be disclosed. The IDs of both the accuser and the accused should either be sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #1
Mr. Clash obviously does not wish this. And, the name is already available to those who wish it. msanthrope Nov 2012 #3
It's not Mr. Clash's decision to make. Making false allegations of a crime against sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #25
I find your speculations regarding Mr. Clash prurient, repugnant, and ill-formed. msanthrope Nov 2012 #28
I find your opinion matters nothing to me. If a crime was committed, ie, falsely sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #29
Mr. Clash is Elmo. Have some compassion for a victim, instead of self-righteously msanthrope Nov 2012 #31
If the victim doesn't want the whole mess dragged (more) through the media, that's the end of it. nt Posteritatis Nov 2012 #5
Mr. Clash being the victim... n/t TroglodyteScholar Nov 2012 #11
Absolutely. If he considers this resolved, then it is. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #12
Agree. n/t TroglodyteScholar Nov 2012 #24
I'm glad!!! nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #2
That is f*cked up!!!!! Mdterp01 Nov 2012 #4
Who cares about his sexual orientation? Watchers of Sesame Street? msanthrope Nov 2012 #6
I feel really bad for the guy, too. This sucks; to get your name dragged through the mud? babylonsister Nov 2012 #8
The Accused Is Now The Victim SoCalMusicLover Nov 2012 #7
There were no charges to drop oberliner Nov 2012 #23
Well if that don't just tickle me... uh... never mind jberryhill Nov 2012 #9
((snort)) nt babylonsister Nov 2012 #10
I miss the DUZYs. nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #14
I thought DUers showed great restraint when this story first broke jberryhill Nov 2012 #15
Well, it wasn't like Aleem Azis Mimbantas had died, or anything... msanthrope Nov 2012 #18
Right over my head... nt babylonsister Nov 2012 #20
He was a top official. There's a memoriam thread to him on DU that even won an award..... msanthrope Nov 2012 #21
great so now this guy's career is shot...... Marrah_G Nov 2012 #13
By "adult consensual relationship" does the accuser mean that he was not underaged at the time? JVS Nov 2012 #16
Phuck Harvey Levin...nt joeybee12 Nov 2012 #17
Not even with someone else's phallus. nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #19
Six Figure Settlement? oberliner Nov 2012 #22
Hope Clash is the one getting the 6 figures in lieu of suing the liar for defamation. n/t JimDandy Nov 2012 #26
Publicly shame this accuser. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #27
Wouldn't Clash be able to sue the living hell out of the guy? SoapBox Nov 2012 #30

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. His ID should be disclosed. The IDs of both the accuser and the accused should either be
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012

kept secret until there is a conviction, or both should be disclosed. Now that he admits to an adult consensual relationship, there is no reason to withhold his ID. And people who make false allegations should suffer consequences for doing so.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
3. Mr. Clash obviously does not wish this. And, the name is already available to those who wish it.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

If Mr. Clash wants to let it drop, then I think he gets to do that....

Besides, Elmo, and the children of American need him.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
25. It's not Mr. Clash's decision to make. Making false allegations of a crime against
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:49 AM
Nov 2012

someone is a crime itself. It is not in the interests of society to allow people to get away with ruining people's lives for malicious purposes.

Unless of course he was telling the truth and is taking a pay-off in return for retracting the allegations. That would explain the victim not wanting it to go any further.

And from one of the links below, it appears money is being discussed. Why would money be involved if the accusation was false?

Or he agreed to tell the truth in return for money. All the more reason to prosecute him.

Blackmail is also a crime.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
28. I find your speculations regarding Mr. Clash prurient, repugnant, and ill-formed.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:34 AM
Nov 2012

Considering that you have defended Anwar Awlaki as a "non violent" cleric, who, according to you was in this country not 2 years before his death, you will have to forgive me if I eschew your character judgements.

Leave Elmo alone.













sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. I find your opinion matters nothing to me. If a crime was committed, ie, falsely
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

accusing someone of a crime for the purpose of harming an innocent person, and then used to blackmail someone, the identity of that individual should not be protected and they should be prosecuted.

Elmo is not a human being. Leave innocent people alone.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
31. Mr. Clash is Elmo. Have some compassion for a victim, instead of self-righteously
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:14 PM
Nov 2012

telling us what you think a victim owes you.


http://beingelmo.com/


Watch, and learn something about the person you maligned. Christ--the godamn puppet seems to have a better sense of forgiveness, charity, and grace.

 

Mdterp01

(144 posts)
4. That is f*cked up!!!!!
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:45 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sorry but you can't just get away with doing that to someone. His sexual orientation is now out there and I'm sure coo coo for cocoa puff right wingers are throwing away their children's Elmo dolls because the guy behind the voice is gay. I feel so bad for the guy.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. Who cares about his sexual orientation? Watchers of Sesame Street?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

The parents of those watchers??? The rightwing stopped watching SS a long time ago. Who cares what they think.

As for the situation, I think it's terrible whenever someone's private business is public fodder, but I leave it to Mr. Clash to resolve it how he thinks best.

babylonsister

(171,105 posts)
8. I feel really bad for the guy, too. This sucks; to get your name dragged through the mud?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

How does anyone get over that?

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
7. The Accused Is Now The Victim
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sorry, but the only victim here, is Mr. Clash, whose reputation has now been irreparably damaged. Even though the charges have now been dropped, he will forever have this incident hanging over him, plus it is all over the internet, and as everybody knows, less people hear about the correction, so once the accusation is out there initially, it's too late to take back.

So far as I'm concerned, the accuser had malice and intended to do harm to Mr Clash's reputation. If in fact he was lying, and was absolutely not subject to "abuse" while underage, he should definitely be made public.

Why should his reputation not be on the line here? I guess it's fair game now to go accusing celebrities for things, and then when the heat gets turned up, you can just say...."sorry, my bad."

I think this will cause significant harm to Mr. Clash's reputation, as he works on a show geared towards children, and now that this is out there, I suspect his future is at the very least, in jeopardy, and if certain right-wing groups desired, they could probably protest his presence on Sesame Street.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. There were no charges to drop
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:03 PM
Nov 2012

There was an accusation, an investigation, a lack of evidence, and a leave of absence.

At no time was anyone charged with anything.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Six Figure Settlement?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

"...the accuser's attorney had been meeting with Clash's attorney as recent as an hour ago, discussing a financial settlement and 6-figures were on the table."

http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/13/sesame-street-kevin-clash-accuser-retraction-recants-sex-allegations/#ixzz2C9dKYCVM

For some reason, the NY Times didn't include that portion of the TMZ story.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
30. Wouldn't Clash be able to sue the living hell out of the guy?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nov 2012

I say Elmo needs to go to court!

And Sesame Street/PBS BETTER support Clash and not spinelessly get rid of him.

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