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zehnkatzen

(784 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 04:06 AM Jun 2023

Moms For Liberty Can't Unring That Bell. They're Public Nazis Now.

Last Wednesday, the Indiana chapter of the right-wing extremist pressure group "Moms for Liberty" posted a e-newsletter which unironically and uncritically quoted Adolf Hitler.

They subsequently apologized then retracted the quote. But here's the thing about that: some bells, they can't be unrung. Once you uncritically quote Hitler, in a way that supports whatever thesis you're trying to sell, that gives you away. You don't get to pretend that you somehow don't know how horrible Hitler was. You don't get to pretend to that ignorance. You don't get to act like you were ironically trying to prove your point.

People don't quote Hitler this way unless they somehow like Hitler. And we know what people who like Hitler are called, right? You can't say you did Nazi this coming.

Besides, there are other ways to make the point. The quote was "He alone, who gains the youth, owns the future". I suppose if you adore or admire (you sick SOB) the erstwhile Herr Schicklgruber, you might think that deep, but it's actually quite banal and obvious. I mean, if you're devoted to demonstrating your profundity by stating this, how about this verbiage:

"I believe the children are our future ... teach them well and let them lead the way".

I mean, you're not going to get accused of being a white supremacist if you quote one of the most popular African-American singers of the last 40 years. Who doesn't love Whitney Houston at her prime? But no, Moms for Liberty wasn't going to have that. They had to quote Der Fuehrer.

Not only that, it's not the first time they did it. Media Matters reported that another chapter did it another time. And if two documented instances of this happens seems small, understand that the quota for quoting Hitler and not getting blowback for it is exactly zero. After that, any credibility you might have had amongst anyone that isn't as far right as you has been shot.

I mean, fly that red-white-and-black flag if you want. But once you unfurl it, there's no turning back.

You can't apologize your way out of that hole.

You're a Nazi now.
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Moms For Liberty Can't Unring That Bell. They're Public Nazis Now. (Original Post) zehnkatzen Jun 2023 OP
Exactly NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #1
Jan. 6th exboyfil Jun 2023 #2
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Jun 2023 #3
They are not Nazis Tickle Jun 2023 #4
They are now . . . hatrack Jun 2023 #7
National has become a euphemism for facist. They're definitely pushing facist ideology Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #8
They just don't know it yet... Blue Owl Jun 2023 #10
Yeah, they are ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #16
It certainly is crazy that they quoted Adolph Hitler. Who the hell does that? Let me think.... Hekate Jun 2023 #19
People who admire Adolph Hitler - Nazis. nt crickets Jun 2023 #21
They could've used a bible verse (Proverbs 22:6), for that matter. So what did they do? chia Jun 2023 #5
Moms for Hitler RAB910 Jun 2023 #6
They were imputing Hitler's words to Biden; marybourg Jun 2023 #9
That may be what they 'claim' in hindsight, but they def FAFO'd emulatorloo Jun 2023 #11
They deserve 10x more for imputing H's marybourg Jun 2023 #12
Agreed. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #14
You keep telling yourself that. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #17
We know that. But the people they are talking to in their ads think marybourg Jun 2023 #18
These nutcases are NAZIs and are proud of this LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #13
Just because I'm keeping score: RFK Jr is speaking at Moms For Liberty National Summit emulatorloo Jun 2023 #15
Wow. Way beyond tone deaf. May he politically crash and burn soon. nt crickets Jun 2023 #22
Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch Hekate Jun 2023 #20

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
1. Exactly
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 04:40 AM
Jun 2023
People don't quote Hitler this way unless they somehow like Hitler. And we know what people who like Hitler are called, right? You can't say you did Nazi this coming.

Normal people wouldn't quote Hitler under any circumstances. How do you even find a Hitler quote unless you've looked for it. The guy was the personification of evil.

They can apologize now, but it's way too late. They've shown their true colors. Like you said, they can't unring the bell

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
2. Jan. 6th
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 05:37 AM
Jun 2023

Illinois Republican Mary Miller sorry for quoting Hitler in Capitol speech

Miller paraphrased Hitler – who in 1935 told a rally: “He alone who owns the youth gains the future” – on Tuesday, in an address to a “Save the Republic” event hosted by Moms for America, a rightwing group which campaigns to “reclaim our culture for truth, family and freedom”.

Not there first rodeo.

I hate Illinois Nazis (and Indiana ones too).

Buckeyeblue

(5,505 posts)
8. National has become a euphemism for facist. They're definitely pushing facist ideology
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 07:47 AM
Jun 2023

But when you quote Adolph in a positive way, you invite comparison. And anyone who has to deal with these deplorables in public should call them out as facists.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
16. Yeah, they are
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 01:10 PM
Jun 2023

They want the same things the Nazis did, and actively work for those goals.

Don't want to be called a Nazi? Don't act like one.

Hekate

(90,978 posts)
19. It certainly is crazy that they quoted Adolph Hitler. Who the hell does that? Let me think....
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 04:29 PM
Jun 2023

chia

(2,244 posts)
5. They could've used a bible verse (Proverbs 22:6), for that matter. So what did they do?
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 07:11 AM
Jun 2023

"Hitler... bible... Hitler... bible...let's go with Hitler!"

The only thing that surprises me is that they didn't use both.

marybourg

(12,648 posts)
9. They were imputing Hitler's words to Biden;
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 09:14 AM
Jun 2023

trying to show that he was *grooming* -indoctrinating- children just as Hitler believed could be done.. They were not quoting Hitler's words to own them themselves.

emulatorloo

(44,261 posts)
11. That may be what they 'claim' in hindsight, but they def FAFO'd
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 11:11 AM
Jun 2023

They have to own it now. They chose to prominently feature a Hitler quote. They ban books to try to keep people ignorant.

They deserve every bit of pushback they get.

marybourg

(12,648 posts)
12. They deserve 10x more for imputing H's
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 11:39 AM
Jun 2023

words to a good person, but that's what they were doing. They're not claiming it in hindsight. .

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
17. You keep telling yourself that.
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 01:13 PM
Jun 2023

They are the ones supporting Nazi-type policies, working to force them on others like Nazis and quoting Nazis.

Don't want to be called a Nazi? Don't act like one.

marybourg

(12,648 posts)
18. We know that. But the people they are talking to in their ads think
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 01:38 PM
Jun 2023

lib’ruls, led now by Biden, are “grooming” their children to be gay, trans, or even worse, lib’ruls! They were quoting H on indoctrinating children. Their cult are open to believing this represents Biden’s thinking towards “their” children.

They were *not* saying “This is what H believes and we believe that too”. You know they always project what is going on in their minds and their movement onto others. That’s what they’re doing to Biden. Bizarre and ridiculous as it it seems to us to see H and Biden as linked in any way, that’s what they were, in their over-blown and perverse way, doing.

I think it’s *worse* to accuse Biden of being a Nazi than to proclaim ( as many seem to think they were doing) that “we are Nazis”.

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